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    Default Do you feel that the #MeToo movement has had an effect on clubs and/or camming?

    Hi! Ex dancer here who has been a member of this site for over ten years(I’ve had to re-invent my name a couple of times due to the some technical issues).

    I got a straight job that I actually loved in the beginning of 2016, so that was my last year dancing so I haven’t experienced the club scene since Mr. Weinstein was outed (along with the other misogynistic butt heads).

    I was curious about the impact. In the ‘vanilla work world”, we get lectures about sexual misconduct, have to sign waivers, and after Mr. Weinstein was outed, men seem afraid to even hint at flirting.

    I was thinking that it might have become more profitable, because at least men know it’s ok to even flirt with you and not be paranoid to give you a complement and buy your time.

    Or is it the opposite, in which your customer base has diminished because they are just confused about how to act in the presence of a sexy female?

    So much has happened in the last year because of this. I had to move out of California for family reasons to a smaller town in another state. I didn’t dance, but I witnessed the , well, confusion of how a lot of men felt about approaching women, particularly the middle aged and older. I made friends with a group of hipster engineers who were definitely woke and the group’s sort of leader, was this awesome lady engineer boss! And the guys in our group were cool with it. They really dug her! But they were middle aged and younger.

    But I digress. How do you feel #MeToo has affected your profession and work place? Or has it made any difference at all?

    I’m very curious. Thanks.

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    Default Re: Do you feel that the #MeToo movement has had an effect on clubs and/or camming?

    I'm in two minds over it. Like anything else, there is relevance to it and all, and there are things women shouldn't have to tolerate in a workplace. On the other hand, holy fucking shit, the wokesters are so full of themselves. Maybe it's just me.. at my vanilla job, I'm a heavy equipment operator, and my entire adult working life has been in predominantly male professions (the military, asphalt worker, tow truck driver, heavy equipment operator), so I had to develop a thicker skin than the women who didn't work on the fild side of things. So I've always been subject to a lot of short jokes. "How you gonna see over the steering wheel of that thing?". "Don't people your height need a booster seat?", etc. Stuff like that. And some of the women I work with are shocked because I'm not offended by it. It's friendly ribbing.. it happens. Now, something like, "Hey... I'll be your booster seat.. if you know what I mean", that'll piss me off. But the guys I work with seem to understand this, and sometimes there are conversations among them which wouldn't be suitable for say, a job in the retail industry or in an office, but I feel there are lines that should be drawn in both directions, plus if I tell them, "Hey, can we change the subject here? I'm not liking where this is going", they're good about abiding by that. Of course, there's irony to be found in all of it... when I worked for Rea Contracting, a manager tried putting me into an office because he apparently thought I was too frail or whatever to be in the field, even over the objections of my coworkers in the field, but it was ultimately because he was a bit of a womanizer, and amassed himself a collection of eye candy working in the office. So I subverted it in every way that I could. I dressed as a field worker, rather than an office worker, I burped loudly without apologizing, if I could muster a fart, I did it openly, I refused to wear makeup, and I took an empty can of... Copenhagen? Skoal? Something like that, and I would fill it with shredded beef jerky and pretend like I was using that smokeless tobacco in the office. After two weeks, the other women were practically begging for me to be sent back to the field. Which, don't get me wrong... I'm very feminine, and quite girly. But being a field worker rather than an office worker was a matter I prided myself in.... I was making it in a world I wasn't supposed to, after all. And trying to stick me in an office effectively stole my pride.

    I do appreciate that there does seem to be a general increase in the consciousness of how women should be treated, both in the workplace and outside of it, but the flip side of that coin is that a lot has been done to breed a crop of zealots who love to go overboard with it.

    As for the club, I think it might affect male staff members some, because perhaps some who didn't before are getting it beat into their heads that, "Hey, the nature of their jobs doesn't make it okay for us to act like a bunch of shits", but careful hiring practices at the club I worked at ensured it never was much of an issue. The customers... I don't really think #metoo changed much there, I think any who had anything to lose were already conscious of the realities of social media, and those who don't feel like they do, I think it's more our bouncers who keep them in line than anything else. The wokesters themselves seem a bit divided about the matter of strip clubs and such... on the one hand, they kinda have to support the rights of sex workers, even if just to show that they adhere to the principle, but they preach condemnation of the industry itself. I really didn't see the "2 woke 4 u" sorts there to begin with, and that's been pretty consistent.
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    Default Re: Do you feel that the #MeToo movement has had an effect on clubs and/or camming?

    1) Stupid questions from customers.

    2) A heightened awareness of social manners.

    3) Men getting more defensive as usual.


    People who have not studied US history forget that there have been eras of relative "relaxed" gender relations.

    Several events in the past 30-some odd years have caused an environment of social chill. (The Internet, the 2008 Great Recession, women being integrated into the armed services, certain clinically insane politicians.)

    In my experience Millenial men have the right ideas. They might be mis-informed by mainstream porn, but overall they tend to see women as people first and sex objects second.

    The real issues are the men who carry a sense of entitlement (either b/c of monetary reasons, or religious leanings, or just plain mental issues.)

    PS Any American male who acts unaware of rapey men among them is either homeschooled or too cowardly to confront a real piece of human shit in his presence. Just my 2 cents....
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    Default Re: Do you feel that the #MeToo movement has had an effect on clubs and/or camming?

    Quote Originally Posted by AChildOfBoredom View Post
    I'm in two minds over it. Like anything else, there is relevance to it and all, and there are things women shouldn't have to tolerate in a workplace. On the other hand, holy fucking shit, the wokesters are so full of themselves. Maybe it's just me.. at my vanilla job, I'm a heavy equipment operator, and my entire adult working life has been in predominantly male professions (the military, asphalt worker, tow truck driver, heavy equipment operator), so I had to develop a thicker skin than the women who didn't work on the fild side of things. So I've always been subject to a lot of short jokes. "How you gonna see over the steering wheel of that thing?". "Don't people your height need a booster seat?", etc. Stuff like that. And some of the women I work with are shocked because I'm not offended by it. It's friendly ribbing.. it happens. Now, something like, "Hey... I'll be your booster seat.. if you know what I mean", that'll piss me off. But the guys I work with seem to understand this, and sometimes there are conversations among them which wouldn't be suitable for say, a job in the retail industry or in an office, but I feel there are lines that should be drawn in both directions, plus if I tell them, "Hey, can we change the subject here? I'm not liking where this is going", they're good about abiding by that. Of course, there's irony to be found in all of it... when I worked for Rea Contracting, a manager tried putting me into an office because he apparently thought I was too frail or whatever to be in the field, even over the objections of my coworkers in the field, but it was ultimately because he was a bit of a womanizer, and amassed himself a collection of eye candy working in the office. So I subverted it in every way that I could. I dressed as a field worker, rather than an office worker, I burped loudly without apologizing, if I could muster a fart, I did it openly, I refused to wear makeup, and I took an empty can of... Copenhagen? Skoal? Something like that, and I would fill it with shredded beef jerky and pretend like I was using that smokeless tobacco in the office. After two weeks, the other women were practically begging for me to be sent back to the field. Which, don't get me wrong... I'm very feminine, and quite girly. But being a field worker rather than an office worker was a matter I prided myself in.... I was making it in a world I wasn't supposed to, after all. And trying to stick me in an office effectively stole my pride.

    I do appreciate that there does seem to be a general increase in the consciousness of how women should be treated, both in the workplace and outside of it, but the flip side of that coin is that a lot has been done to breed a crop of zealots who love to go overboard with it.

    As for the club, I think it might affect male staff members some, because perhaps some who didn't before are getting it beat into their heads that, "Hey, the nature of their jobs doesn't make it okay for us to act like a bunch of shits", but careful hiring practices at the club I worked at ensured it never was much of an issue. The customers... I don't really think #metoo changed much there, I think any who had anything to lose were already conscious of the realities of social media, and those who don't feel like they do, I think it's more our bouncers who keep them in line than anything else. The wokesters themselves seem a bit divided about the matter of strip clubs and such... on the one hand, they kinda have to support the rights of sex workers, even if just to show that they adhere to the principle, but they preach condemnation of the industry itself. I really didn't see the "2 woke 4 u" sorts there to begin with, and that's been pretty consistent.
    That’s absolutely brilliant, the things you did to get out off your office and back in the field👍🏼

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    Default Re: Do you feel that the #MeToo movement has had an effect on clubs and/or camming?

    Thanks for taking your time to reply.

    Do you think or have you noticed less customers coming into the club? Or a decrease of customers while camming since this happened last year?

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