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    Just wondering if this group thinks teens to young adults are forgoing intimacy as this article suggests. I realize StripperWeb users may not be average, LOL, but curious if you agree with their study.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...ession/573949/

    These should be boom times for sex.The share of Americans who say sex between unmarried adults is “not wrong at all” is at an all-time high. New cases of HIV are at an all-time low. Most women can—at last—get birth control for free, and the morning-after pill without a prescription.

    If hookups are your thing, Grindr and Tinder offer the prospect of casual sex within the hour. The phrase If something exists, there is porn of it used to be a clever internet meme; now it’s a truism. BDSM plays at the local multiplex—but why bother going? Sex is portrayed, often graphically and sometimes gorgeously, on prime-time cable. Sexting is, statistically speaking, normal.


    Polyamory is a household word. Shame-laden terms like perversion have given way to cheerful-sounding ones like kink. Anal sex has gone from final taboo to “fifth base”—Teen Vogue (yes, Teen Vogue) even ran a guide to it. With the exception of perhaps incest and bestiality—and of course nonconsensual sex more generally—our culture has never been more tolerant of sex in just about every permutation.

    But despite all this, American teenagers and young adults are having less sex.



    To the relief of many parents, educators, and clergy members who care about the health and well-being of young people, teens are launching their sex lives later. From 1991 to 2017, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Youth Risk Behavior Survey finds, the percentage of high-school students who’d had intercourse dropped from 54 to 40 percent. In other words, in the space of a generation, sex has gone from something most high-school students have experienced to something most haven’t. (And no, they aren’t having oral sex instead—that rate hasn’t changed much.)



    Meanwhile, the U.S. teen pregnancy rate has plummeted to a third of its modern high. When this decline started, in the 1990s, it was widely and rightly embraced. But now some observers are beginning to wonder whether an unambiguously good thing might have roots in less salubrious developments. Signs are gathering that the delay in teen sex may have been the first indication of a broader withdrawal from physical intimacy that extends well into adulthood.
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    idk

    Intimacy and sex can be two different things.

    I think you can be intimate without sex.

    Me personally, I need a guarantee dude is going to be a good lover otherwise I’d rather skip sex like vaginal sex and just get oral sex or please myself.

    Also young adults may have more parental involvement to help them make better decisions about sex. Society is still pretty harsh judging people who have kids out of wedlock as a result of unprotected sex, some religions forbid birth control, and also this generation is very college/career focused.

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    These new generations are less intimately connected. Even friendship and relationships seem less important, or at least, more difficult to acquire. I truly believe these younger groups have less social skills...including with their own families. They get taught an education and how to pass test in school, how to get along with people, share, and be nice in daycare. What they don't get taught is how to interact and consequences of the internet, and how to be intimate with others and have a close relationship. Our sex has become very liberated, but intimacy has become almost Victorian-like.
    Just my opinion and one small view of what could be occurring.

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    I think Millenials are raised with very high "Emotional" expectations of relationships (all of them.)

    My personal feeling is it's a hold over from 1980s pop culture.

    Back in the day it was very common for grandparents and parents to literally beat the crap out of kids and grandkids to get them to "act right."
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    I think it comes down to young people having fewer social skills, and spending more time on the internet/smart phones. It's much easier to entertain yourself these days. You can sext someone rather than have sex with someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GanglyGengarGurl View Post
    These new generations are less intimately connected. Even friendship and relationships seem less important, or at least, more difficult to acquire. I truly believe these younger groups have less social skills...including with their own families. They get taught an education and how to pass test in school, how to get along with people, share, and be nice in daycare. What they don't get taught is how to interact and consequences of the internet, and how to be intimate with others and have a close relationship. Our sex has become very liberated, but intimacy has become almost Victorian-like.
    Just my opinion and one small view of what could be occurring.
    I've said it before that the "Victorian" model for Romantic love was more destructive than real...According to historians every 3rd house in Victorian England was a brothel or a version of a "salon" (hook up hang out.)

    I've been trying to play matchmaker for a younger relative of mine (male) & it's unbelievable the fantasy ideas he has about Romance. & He's an American male.
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    I think it's because this age group is the internet generation. People are interacting and staying in touch with others through the internet, email, social media, and text messaging more often than actually hanging out in person. I am guilty of this too. If it weren't for my job I'd probably have a difficult time dating and getting laid because I'm a socially awkward introvert otherwise, lol.

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    Also comes down the generation growing up with entitlement issues, if they dont get exactly how they see things in their heads, they cry and demand it as a right. This is happening in all parts of their lives from intimacy and sex, to careers and even education.
    Too many Millennials have been taught what to think and expect, rather than How to Think and create their own personal conclusion. The Internet and all its wonderful aspects have set back physical interaction to the point where kids are beginning to cease thinking on their own and just doing as who they admire tell them to think. It is a double edged sword

    Once they realize as adults that their rose colored glasses world, doesnt truly exist that way, they are forced into learning reality and life the hardway in a condensed timeframe or they will simply crack.

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    I disagree with the sentiment of entitlement. I think millennials are one of the hardest working generation that use ingenuity and technology in the ways predecessors couldn't or haven't. Today's work doesn't have to be "hard" or "backbreaking" like our great-grandpappy's who built railroads; now we can have tech jobs and creative jobs that aren't physically demanding which are just as valid. Also millennial are working at wages that haven't really seen the inflation other generations have had. I think point blank- this generation is tired and unwilling to settle for something that doesn't serve them. Why not settle? Because there are options that aren't the vicious cycles they saw their parents struggle though in unfulfilling careers, partners, and meeting societies standards. They aim to do better than settle. A huge thing to add- the ratio of the cost of rent to minimum wage is a joke and being able to own a house, focus on one's career (after obtaining massive amounts of student loan debt first), and also even think about raising children i.e. "The American Dream" seems impossible. They did a study and reported millennials are the first generation that thinks the future will be worse for the next generation rather than better. I think that combo'd with overstimulation and constant access to often unrealistic sex via the internet, sex doesn't seem as sexy or lucrative. And throw in self-esteem in late-day capitalism: we all want more, are constantly comparing ourselves to others, and think we're not enough. Not to mention the way men have been acting towards sexually open and liberated women which is a new concept in terms of women sharing on their own terms and forum. It all seems like a struggle across the board. I think the ENTIRE tornado of life for millennials is just making them less horny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    I've said it before that the "Victorian" model for Romantic love was more destructive than real...According to historians every 3rd house in Victorian England was a brothel or a version of a "salon" (hook up hang out.)

    I've been trying to play matchmaker for a younger relative of mine (male) & it's unbelievable the fantasy ideas he has about Romance. & He's an American male.
    Ha! I believe it! People just are not as perfect as fantasy and never will be. It's not just romance IMO,but the whole stuffy social structure. If everyone has to be perfect at all times, the "darker" side of human nature has to escape somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    I've said it before that the "Victorian" model for Romantic love was more destructive than real...According to historians every 3rd house in Victorian England was a brothel or a version of a "salon" (hook up hang out.)

    I've been trying to play matchmaker for a younger relative of mine (male) & it's unbelievable the fantasy ideas he has about Romance. & He's an American male.
    I agree with you 100% - look at the two passages below - eyewitness accounts and note I don't believe everything the "white knights" say. I'm sure they were there for their own reasons but a lot of the passage's words ring true:

    https://irishorigins.wordpress.com/2...f-the-curragh/

    "The Wrens of the Curragh were an outcast community of 19th-century Irish women who lived rough, brutally hard lives in an area called ‘The Curragh’ on the plains of Kildare. The name comes from the shelters they lived in, hollowed out “nests” in the ground which they covered with layers of furze.

    Throughout the 50-odd years they lived on the plains of Kildare, they were reviled, stoned, beaten, spat upon and abused. They were refused goods by local shopkeepers and were burned out of their nests. They died in ditches from exposure and disease. Even the workhouse refused them, putting them into low hovels separated from the main building."

    "Other accounts told how gangs of local men crossed the plains for the "sport" of burning down the village (the Wrens would get together and rebuild the burned nests). There were also accounts of gang rapes by soldiers, and tales of terrible drunkenness among the women themselves."

    "In a chapter entitled 'Crimes of Prostitution', Costello gives an account of the squalid conditions in which these women lived, their wretched lives and the brutality to which they were subjected.

    He quotes from an article published by Dickens (yes that Dickens wearing his journalist hat) in which an eye-witness describes the activities of an officious local priest commandeering a squad of soldiers to burn the unfortunate women out and recounts how this same reverend gentleman made it a habit of carrying a large scissors with him so that if he met one of the Wrens he would assault her and sheer off her hair.

    In 1845, a priest in Newbridge, encountering one of these women, threw her down in the mud, ripped the clothes from her back and laid into her with his riding whip until the blood spurted over her boots. A crowd assembled but no one protested."

    These were wretched, evil people in many ways, and their "romance" is mostly novels. The same people that spit on these women patronized them without their wives knowing about it, the height of hypocrisy.
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    I think it's the Internet to blame.

    It hit the adult industry once it came full fledge, men do not need to pay for entertainment when it is free. And men nowadays are so hook up to internet and video games it isn't funny, why pay when you get the same rate of happiness without the strings. Music videos also desensitized everything as well, since what is consider shocking 20 years ago is so tame and innocent like Britney Spears Hit me baby one more time or Toxic compare to what is out there now .. seriously search up KREAM by Iggy Azalea (although I love that video, I was a little shock, but the lyrics go hard in it).

    KREAM. KASH RUN EVERYTHING AROUND ME.

    But I'll digest, it's the internet.

    And I do not think it's a bad thing either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Femme Fatale View Post
    I think it's the Internet to blame.

    It hit the adult industry once it came full fledge, men do not need to pay for entertainment when it is free. And men nowadays are so hook up to internet and video games it isn't funny, why pay when you get the same rate of happiness without the strings. Music videos also desensitized everything as well, since what is consider shocking 20 years ago is so tame and innocent like Britney Spears Hit me baby one more time or Toxic compare to what is out there now .. seriously search up KREAM by Iggy Azalea (although I love that video, I was a little shock, but the lyrics go hard in it).

    KREAM. KASH RUN EVERYTHING AROUND ME.

    But I'll digest, it's the internet.

    And I do not think it's a bad thing either.
    A boss of mine said that back in the mid-2000s- free Internet adult content had really impacted his business. This was in the NYC area btw.


    On the other hand, I made a lot of money in the adult industry so I am not going to say that free content on the Web is ruining everyone's payday. Workers just have more options.
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