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    Dizzy Why hate sexually active women?

    The following video is an example of the subject matter which I’m talking about.

    http://www.youtu.be/JwHJnpGw9qg

    I happen to know that one of the girls in the video faced a huge backlash from both men and women just because she is open and confident about her sexual life style. Whether it be about hooking up with guys casually, or being polyamourous, why do so many people feel the need to degrade women who are open about such things? This rarely ever happens towards the many men who brag about being a stud. It feels to me like an extreme double standard. What’s especially odd about this is that most of this hostility is coming from western countries.


    Perhaps someone here could share their thoughts on why they think this is happening?

    PS, I hope I've posted this in the right section.

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    Amateur opinion, but, people seem to mind sexually active women that aren't sleeping with them. Also, our whole global culture developed before DNA tests, so men couldn't tell if a baby was theirs (and around 15% apparently weren't). The only cure for that in these guys minds was to lock down the women. They did that by religion, force, and developing the "pure" ideal. So if you stepped outside the bounds, you were excommunicated, beaten, tortured, shunned and scorned. Remnants of that still exist, as I have learned here and elsewhere.
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    Men love the chase. They live for it. So if a girl is out sleeping with a lot of other men, guys will feel like they are not as special to be sleeping with her. Cause so many guys get to do it. Have you ever slept with a man very early into your guys' relationship... and wonder why he suddenly lost interest? Calls you less? Puts less effort into the relationship? There's a damn good psychological reason for this!

    Its a huge ego boost for a man to slowly pursue and woman, then eventually be the few who actually "conquer" her. If she does it with everyone then he'll think maybe he can get better. On the flip side, if shes sexual promiscuous and he didn't get inside... his ego will be bruised. Then its the perfect time to slut shame her to make himself feel better.

    Men want to feel special. It definitely comes down to their own egos. Plenty of women enjoy slut shaming too, simply because they feel threatened that their husbands and boyfriends will take part in the activities. Jealously runs rampant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julezizkulz View Post
    The following video is an example of the subject matter which I’m talking about.

    http://www.youtu.be/JwHJnpGw9qg

    I happen to know that one of the girls in the video faced a huge backlash from both men and women just because she is open and confident about her sexual life style. Whether it be about hooking up with guys casually, or being polyamourous, why do so many people feel the need to degrade women who are open about such things? This rarely ever happens towards the many men who brag about being a stud. It feels to me like an extreme double standard. What’s especially odd about this is that most of this hostility is coming from western countries.


    Perhaps someone here could share their thoughts on why they think this is happening?

    PS, I hope I've posted this in the right section.
    Actually, men do get shamed for being promiscuous, the difference between men and women though is the general public has a higher threshold/tolerance for men being promiscuous than women.

    Men are sort of expected to have different women for a time, but once it's known that a man has crossed over to a Hugh Hefner/Kiss band type lifestyle, or seeked out prostitutes, he will then be considered a "pig" or will be labeled "disgusting" and a lot of women won't even want him anymore.

    Males who brag about being a stud haven't hit the public threshold of what is unethical or unacceptable and most adults know that most men embellish their accomplishments to begin with.


    As far as women being slut shamed, I believe women slut shame other women because openly promiscuous women are getting all the attention from the males and the males do it in a effort to punish a particular woman who isn't having sex WITH THEM. Everyone is essentially jealous of other people who are actually having fun and living their lives.

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    There may have been justifications to try to lock women down lol
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...uman-gene-pool
    https://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com...r-family-tree/

    I got a kick about learning about this.

    As for why women are hated on, I'm not sure. It doesn't make sense to me and if it's ever happened to me I'm oblivious to it.

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    The more work I do on my trauma the more I realize how F’d up people are and they don’t even know why they believe what they believe. I attribute people’s behavior to a lot of BS-belief systems.

    My mom is crazy, but she has her moments of brilliance like most crazy people. The hardest thing about being a sane person is dealing with everyone else’s insanity.

    Its mostly about power and control-consciously or unconsciously.

    I try to ignore people’s BS, but it seems harder to ignore the older I get. I don’t really want to get into a feminist rant so I’ll end it there.

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    They do it if you are... they do it if you aren't. I think it's less about a person's sexual proclivities and more about wanting to have that feeling of power over someone else's life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyguy09 View Post
    Actually, men do get shamed for being promiscuous, the difference between men and women though is the general public has a higher threshold/tolerance for men being promiscuous than women.

    Men are sort of expected to have different women for a time, but once it's known that a man has crossed over to a Hugh Hefner/Kiss band type lifestyle, or seeked out prostitutes, he will then be considered a "pig" or will be labeled "disgusting" and a lot of women won't even want him anymore.

    Males who brag about being a stud haven't hit the public threshold of what is unethical or unacceptable and most adults know that most men embellish their accomplishments to begin with.


    As far as women being slut shamed, I believe women slut shame other women because openly promiscuous women are getting all the attention from the males and the males do it in a effort to punish a particular woman who isn't having sex WITH THEM. Everyone is essentially jealous of other people who are actually having fun and living their lives.
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    They do it if you are... they do it if you aren't. I think it's less about a person's sexual proclivities and more about wanting to have that feeling of power over someone else's life.
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    Also some people don’t enjoy sex so they hate on people that seem to derive pleasure/get benefits from it because they don’t understand how it can be enjoyable/provide benefits
    I totally agree. So many guys and gals seem to have a problem with the fact that these girls are living their lives the way they want to rather than being controlled by some conservative mindset. The one girl I know from the video has been subjected to a lot more than just messages. Somebody doxxed her which resulted in people making anonymous threatening phone calls. She forwarded me some of the weird messages people sent her via facebook.

    "Not only do they promote casual sex with multiple partners at the same time, but they think that it some how empowers women. Polyamory is just another word for infidelity and never results in happy lives or happy children. Reckless promiscuity does however lead to unwanted pregnancies, abortions and single mothers. Lately though it’s often the mums who are abandoning their children. Is that female empowerment and equality? We all know that most men want to spread their seed, but society as adapted to prepare women on how to protect themselves from men with one thought on their minds. When women are out to sleep around too, nobody is taking accountability. They’re just all indulging in their lusts, perversions and decadence.

    When did we normalize such behavior? Moreover, what do you think it will take for our society to bring back values of decency, virtue, and self respect it once used to have?"

    "Human promiscuity is the downfall of societies.

    Marriage as an institution is absolutely critical to large, relatively uniform cultures. This is because marriage is a tool used to reign in male AND female promiscuity for the betterment of the entire civilization.

    Female promiscuity is only the tip of the iceberg. Male promiscuity feeds into female promiscuity, and vice versa. It starts an engine that is difficult, if not impossible, to truly stop. Pre-conception birth control, post-conception birth control, the destabilization of marriage through no-fault divorce, etc. all lead to increased male and female promiscuity via the removal of long-term consequences for promiscuity. This decreases birth rates, and inevitably causes the destabilization of large societies that are dependent upon the family unit.

    Enjoy the decline."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutiecam View Post
    Men love the chase. They live for it. So if a girl is out sleeping with a lot of other men, guys will feel like they are not as special to be sleeping with her. Cause so many guys get to do it. Have you ever slept with a man very early into your guys' relationship... and wonder why he suddenly lost interest? Calls you less? Puts less effort into the relationship? There's a damn good psychological reason for this!

    Its a huge ego boost for a man to slowly pursue and woman, then eventually be the few who actually "conquer" her. If she does it with everyone then he'll think maybe he can get better. On the flip side, if shes sexual promiscuous and he didn't get inside... his ego will be bruised. Then its the perfect time to slut shame her to make himself feel better.

    Men want to feel special. It definitely comes down to their own egos. Plenty of women enjoy slut shaming too, simply because they feel threatened that their husbands and boyfriends will take part in the activities. Jealously runs rampant.
    Yep a lot of it has to do with jealousy I think. It's really disgusting. How do you think a woman can best protect herself against this sort of thing if she wants to be public about what she does like the girls in the videos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rispy_Girl View Post
    There may have been justifications to try to lock women down lol
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...uman-gene-pool
    https://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com...r-family-tree/

    I got a kick about learning about this.

    As for why women are hated on, I'm not sure. It doesn't make sense to me and if it's ever happened to me I'm oblivious to it.
    These are truly fascinating articles; the conclusion of both seems to be that "high value" males have more descendants and therefore males produce less unique genetic progenitors. I think this may speak to the fact that women either were "locked down" or they deliberately chose high value males, in which case the hate you mention comes from those for whom there is, apparently, no genetic future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahuba View Post
    Amateur opinion, but, people seem to mind sexually active women that aren't sleeping with them. Also, our whole global culture developed before DNA tests, so men couldn't tell if a baby was theirs (and around 15% apparently weren't). The only cure for that in these guys minds was to lock down the women. They did that by religion, force, and developing the "pure" ideal. So if you stepped outside the bounds, you were excommunicated, beaten, tortured, shunned and scorned. Remnants of that still exist, as I have learned here and elsewhere.
    This.

    And a parallel thought, humans are social creatures and deeply fear being left alone. Holding a woman down ensures a "place to come back to."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julezizkulz View Post
    I totally agree. So many guys and gals seem to have a problem with the fact that these girls are living their lives the way they want to rather than being controlled by some conservative mindset. The one girl I know from the video has been subjected to a lot more than just messages. Somebody doxxed her which resulted in people making anonymous threatening phone calls. She forwarded me some of the weird messages people sent her via facebook.

    "Not only do they promote casual sex with multiple partners at the same time, but they think that it some how empowers women. Polyamory is just another word for infidelity and never results in happy lives or happy children. Reckless promiscuity does however lead to unwanted pregnancies, abortions and single mothers. Lately though it’s often the mums who are abandoning their children. Is that female empowerment and equality? We all know that most men want to spread their seed, but society as adapted to prepare women on how to protect themselves from men with one thought on their minds. When women are out to sleep around too, nobody is taking accountability. They’re just all indulging in their lusts, perversions and decadence.

    When did we normalize such behavior? Moreover, what do you think it will take for our society to bring back values of decency, virtue, and self respect it once used to have?"

    "Human promiscuity is the downfall of societies.

    Marriage as an institution is absolutely critical to large, relatively uniform cultures. This is because marriage is a tool used to reign in male AND female promiscuity for the betterment of the entire civilization.

    Female promiscuity is only the tip of the iceberg. Male promiscuity feeds into female promiscuity, and vice versa. It starts an engine that is difficult, if not impossible, to truly stop. Pre-conception birth control, post-conception birth control, the destabilization of marriage through no-fault divorce, etc. all lead to increased male and female promiscuity via the removal of long-term consequences for promiscuity. This decreases birth rates, and inevitably causes the destabilization of large societies that are dependent upon the family unit.

    Enjoy the decline."
    I think there is a grain of truth in the rant you quoted. When we as a societal whole rebel from ultra conservative thinking, it's not good for family structures. Cheating isn't good for kids. Parading one partner after another in front of them isn't either. Now doing it discretely where the kids aren't involved unless the relationship is serious is different. Also poly is not the same and doesn't have to break up a relationship. The trick is being completely open with your significant other. If you have a problem you talk it out, your don't let it fester. To that end I think it can actually result in a healthier relationship and healthier role modeling for kids. Just my two cents

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julezizkulz View Post
    Yep a lot of it has to do with jealousy I think. It's really disgusting. How do you think a woman can best protect herself against this sort of thing if she wants to be public about what she does like the girls in the videos?
    The best thing a woman can do to best protect herself from people slut shaming her, is to stop giving a fuck about what people think. Who has time to worry about some asshole looking down on you for being promiscuous? I'd just be enjoying my life ^.^

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    Quote Originally Posted by cutiecam View Post
    The best thing a woman can do to best protect herself from people slut shaming her, is to stop giving a fuck about what people think. Who has time to worry about some asshole looking down on you for being promiscuous? I'd just be enjoying my life ^.^
    It would be that simple, if not for, you know, things like doxxing and 'revenge porn', which, one of my friends had that happen to her after breaking up with a boyfriend whose ego couldn't handle being dumped, so of course he had to do the most shitheaded thing he possibly good. I'd imagine it's difficult to not give a shit when you've got random strangers calling you at all hours of the night to tell you that you're a slut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahuba View Post
    Amateur opinion, but, people seem to mind sexually active women that aren't sleeping with them. Also, our whole global culture developed before DNA tests, so men couldn't tell if a baby was theirs (and around 15% apparently weren't). The only cure for that in these guys minds was to lock down the women. They did that by religion, force, and developing the "pure" ideal. So if you stepped outside the bounds, you were excommunicated, beaten, tortured, shunned and scorned. Remnants of that still exist, as I have learned here and elsewhere.
    Yea, that's definitely true. An older guy I know once told me the saying goes, "mama's baby, papa's maybe" meaning that a man never really knows if a child is his where as women don't have to worry about that at all.

    And yes, even up to today something like 20% (+/-) of fathers are raising children who aren't biologically their own and don't even know it.

    I knew an older man who this happened to out in California. I met him during a nasty divorce where his wife threw him out and in a bitter fight she told him after 18 years his daughter wasn't biological his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julezizkulz View Post
    I totally agree. So many guys and gals seem to have a problem with the fact that these girls are living their lives the way they want to rather than being controlled by some conservative mindset. The one girl I know from the video has been subjected to a lot more than just messages. Somebody doxxed her which resulted in people making anonymous threatening phone calls. She forwarded me some of the weird messages people sent her via facebook.

    "Not only do they promote casual sex with multiple partners at the same time, but they think that it some how empowers women. Polyamory is just another word for infidelity and never results in happy lives or happy children. Reckless promiscuity does however lead to unwanted pregnancies, abortions and single mothers. Lately though it’s often the mums who are abandoning their children. Is that female empowerment and equality? We all know that most men want to spread their seed, but society as adapted to prepare women on how to protect themselves from men with one thought on their minds. When women are out to sleep around too, nobody is taking accountability. They’re just all indulging in their lusts, perversions and decadence.

    When did we normalize such behavior? Moreover, what do you think it will take for our society to bring back values of decency, virtue, and self respect it once used to have?"

    "Human promiscuity is the downfall of societies.

    Marriage as an institution is absolutely critical to large, relatively uniform cultures. This is because marriage is a tool used to reign in male AND female promiscuity for the betterment of the entire civilization.

    Female promiscuity is only the tip of the iceberg. Male promiscuity feeds into female promiscuity, and vice versa. It starts an engine that is difficult, if not impossible, to truly stop. Pre-conception birth control, post-conception birth control, the destabilization of marriage through no-fault divorce, etc. all lead to increased male and female promiscuity via the removal of long-term consequences for promiscuity. This decreases birth rates, and inevitably causes the destabilization of large societies that are dependent upon the family unit.

    Enjoy the decline."

    I can tell by the words written above that this was written by a male within the Incel/MGTOW online community.

    That being said, this persons view of how things were in the past is wrong according to unbiased scientific data.

    For the majority of human history there has only been a small number of men who have been able to procreate. Essentially top dominant males like Genghis Khan had harems of women all while the rest of the men died or were slaves. Down through the eons of history most females gave birth and passed on their genetic DNA where as only about 20-30% of males have done so.

    The world we live in now is relatively new from the perspective of most men being able to have thier own children and being sure of it. But it is true that this modern world only works and is relatively peaceful if each man has a wife because it gives man a sense of purpose and something to live for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AChildOfBoredom View Post
    It would be that simple, if not for, you know, things like doxxing and 'revenge porn', which, one of my friends had that happen to her after breaking up with a boyfriend whose ego couldn't handle being dumped, so of course he had to do the most shitheaded thing he possibly good. I'd imagine it's difficult to not give a shit when you've got random strangers calling you at all hours of the night to tell you that you're a slut.
    I'm so sorry to hear this about your friend.

    In situations like this, theres not much you can do. Many women have taken legal action against revenge porn harrassment and stalker behavior. All of which are illegal. It's very risky to trust another individual to not sabatog you with your mind, body and wellbeing, especially when his unstable emotions run rampant. It's the risk one takes in this day and age when one is very promiscuous. (Heck, even a woman with only 1 lifetime partner can be susceptible. Or a woman with 1000 partners) I'm just saying, theres nothing you can really do, at the moment, to stop slut shaming. I dont personally have the one cure and true answer to stop slut shaming. It's very hard to change peoples minds when their stead fast in their slut shaming mentality.

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    Whenever you press someone on what's wrong about sexual activity, porn or prostitution, the argument that you will get from them is disease: sexually active people get diseases and spread them indiscriminately. People who chose to be sexually active are making themselves a danger to the community.

    The disparity on the treatment of men versus women on the subject is because there is always a disparity on treatment of men versus women on a subject.
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    Now to answer your question about hating sexually active women. People slut shamed because they want to feel superior to the women in question. Hypocrites always look for someone to shame to avoid looking at their own dirt. Men do not love the chase but more love having dominion over women's sexuality. If women have control over their own sexuality, then she must be shamed, violated, degraded, and other things. Women are shamed if they are virgins waiting for marriage or slept with half the world. You will get shamed regardless because it's about having dominion over women's sexuality. Of course, it's an certain type of man who want to control an woman's sexuality. Meanwhile, women who slut shame other women do it out of spite, jealousy, bitterness, or to please men's interests. Plus women who slut shame want to keep in line with the status quo.



    Quote Originally Posted by Julezizkulz View Post
    The following video is an example of the subject matter which I’m talking about.
    http://www.youtu.be/JwHJnpGw9qg

    I happen to know that one of the girls in the video faced a huge backlash from both men and women just because she is open and confident about her sexual life style. Whether it be about hooking up with guys casually, or being polyamourous, why do so many people feel the need to degrade women who are open about such things? This rarely ever happens towards the many men who brag about being a stud. It feels to me like an extreme double standard. What’s especially odd about this is that most of this hostility is coming from western countries.


    Perhaps someone here could share their thoughts on why they think this is happening?

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    Actually, you're correct but let me go much deeper than you did. Men get shamed for promiscuity but only when other men do not approve of their behavior. To be honest, Hugh Hefner and Kiss are not great examples of this. Because they did not get shamed for their sexual adventures and they also married adult industry professionals. They knew their places and people really did not give them flack. Gene Summons, Hugh Hefner, and Paul Stanley married chicks who could handle their exploits. For example, Gene Simmons married Shannon Tweed, 80s Queen of Cinemax porn and Erotic thrillers. So, I believe they are evenly match. Men have nothing to fear from super sexually active men who marry girls apart of this industry.

    Now, Don Juans and Casanova types are completely different as they mess up the Status quo.They fall out of line with how men view themselves. Men who want to keep the status quo do not like men who behave differently. You see, you can be an stud only if men respect you actions and look up to you. But as soon as that man becomes more than an stud than he becomes problematic. Because Casanovas and Don Juans often go hand and hand with women's free will. They offer women sexual and romantic freedoms unlike any other type of men.
    For example, Giacomo Casanova was hated because he seduced women from all classes.He did not believe in caging up women's sexuality and a lot of stuff that would be super liberal even today. So, people punished him in his later years for his sexual freedom and not settling down.Meanwhile, women who keep the status quo intact hate Casanovas and Don Juan because they do not like men who do not want to settle down for marriage. Sexual jealously and bitterness comes out in how people treat these men This is why Casanovas are called womanizers, fuckboys, and other things. Meanwhile, Don Juans are called emotional repressed crybabies who use sex to hide their loneliness but we all know the truth. People shamed them because they refused to settling down and falling in line. In fact, Don Juanism was classified the male equivalent of nymphomania and many poor men was classified as this. But, their only crimes were having multiple sexual partners and not falling line with other men's standards.

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    Actually, men do get shamed for being promiscuous, the difference between men and women though is the general public has a higher threshold/tolerance for men being promiscuous than women.

    Men are sort of expected to have different women for a time, but once it's known that a man has crossed over to a Hugh Hefner/Kiss band type lifestyle, or seeked out prostitutes, he will then be considered a "pig" or will be labeled "disgusting" and a lot of women won't even want him anymore.

    Males who brag about being a stud haven't hit the public threshold of what is unethical or unacceptable and most adults know that most men embellish their accomplishments to begin with.


    As far as women being slut shamed, I believe women slut shame other women because openly promiscuous women are getting all the attention from the males and the males do it in a effort to punish a particular woman who isn't having sex WITH THEM. Everyone is essentially jealous of other people who are actually having fun and living their lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaDiabla View Post
    Actually, you're correct but let me go much deeper than you did. Men get shamed for promiscuity but only when other men do not approve of their behavior. To be honest, Hugh Hefner and Kiss are not great examples of this. Because they did not get shamed for their sexual adventures and they also married adult industry professionals. They knew their places and people really did not give them flack. Gene Summons, Hugh Hefner, and Paul Stanley married chicks who could handle their exploits. For example, Gene Simmons married Shannon Tweed, 80s Queen of Cinemax porn and Erotic thrillers. So, I believe they are evenly match. Men have nothing to fear from super sexually active men who marry girls apart of this industry.

    Now, Don Juans and Casanova types are completely different as they mess up the Status quo.They fall out of line with how men view themselves. Men who want to keep the status quo do not like men who behave differently. You see, you can be an stud only if men respect you actions and look up to you. But as soon as that man becomes more than an stud than he becomes problematic. Because Casanovas and Don Juans often go hand and hand with women's free will. They offer women sexual and romantic freedoms unlike any other type of men.
    For example, Giacomo Casanova was hated because he seduced women from all classes.He did not believe in caging up women's sexuality and a lot of stuff that would be super liberal even toda
    y. So, people punished him in his later years for his sexual freedom and not settling down.Meanwhile, women who keep the status quo intact hate Casanovas and Don Juan because they do not like men who do not want to settle down for marriage. Sexual jealously and bitterness comes out in how people treat these men This is why Casanovas are called womanizers, fuckboys, and other things. Meanwhile, Don Juans are called emotional repressed crybabies who use sex to hide their loneliness but we all know the truth. People shamed them because they refused to settling down and falling in line. In fact, Don Juanism was classified the male equivalent of nymphomania and many poor men was classified as this. But, their only crimes were having multiple sexual partners and not falling line with other men's standards.
    Right. But I would say it becomes problematic because those type of men seduce and sleep with married women or women with boyfriends.

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