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    I used cooking spray once..
    Lock's not frozen now but still has remnants of pick in the door's key slot.
    I stopped by a lock smith, he wanted $250.00 so no.

    When I stop by mechanic I can ask him


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    Quote Originally Posted by whirlerz View Post
    I used cooking spray once..
    Lock's not frozen now but still has remnants of pick in the door's key slot.
    I stopped by a lock smith, he wanted $250.00 so no.

    When I stop by mechanic I can ask him
    Maybe once it warms up, try some dental tools, picks, small tweezers to see if you can retrieve the toothpick. Harbor Freight has for <$15. Replacing locks sux because having to deal w taking off door panels, re-keying...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CFMNH44 View Post
    Maybe once it warms up, try some dental tools, picks, small tweezers to see if you can retrieve the toothpick. Harbor Freight has for <$15. Replacing locks sux because having to deal w taking off door panels, re-keying...
    Careful with the lockpicks. If you're not well versed in using them, they break quite easily. I went through no small number when I taught myself how to pick locks.

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    lol.
    I finally got a new battery..

    Thurs. rained all morning, then temps dropped low + 25 mph wind

    I used the car a bit, last @ 8pm, not long after, it was a frozen icicle (all doors frozen, including trunk de-icing spray didn't help btw they were unlocked as well

    Tried it around noon today, nope. Got a jump from roomie who moved out, then to 2 auto supply stores (1st one was out of the size, but not the more expensive kind)
    These midwest winters are a mofo!

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    Depends on how many shitty puns you can endure. You haven't yet seen just how much of a dork I can be.
    Off topic, I'm just wondering ACOB what is your top 3 favorite cars? Just curious about your automobile taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyguy09 View Post
    Off topic, I'm just wondering ACOB what is your top 3 favorite cars? Just curious about your automobile taste.
    AMC Gremlin
    Edsel
    Pontiac Aztek

    What can I say? I have a particular affinity for the downtrodden. That extends to cars as it does to people. Plus, the Aztek offered an integral tent, which I thought was pretty cool.

    I've only ever had three cars. The first was an 89 Ford Ranger that I had bought for $300. It was a 2WD with a four cylinder and a five speed. I did a lot of work to it for to make it roadworthy, and this is the one which carried me from Wisconsin to North Carolina. I traded that one in on a 2009 Chevrolet Colorado 4x4 with an auto and the 5.3 V8. I miss it. I recently traded that one in on a 2018 Cruze. I like it, but it's not a pickup truck. I am a pickup truck kind of girl. I feel like I'm denying who I am with the Cruze.

    If you want my all-time favorite, the C/K series pickups from General Motors, prior to the adoption of the GMT400 platform in 1988. Especially the 1987 models, where they introduced Throttle Body Injection and disc brakes. When I was 10, I had to be able to drive around our farm, and I learned to do that with a 1977(I think?) K30 with a SM465 and a 400 small block. Perhaps I'm a little sentimental.

    I don't get hung up on fancy cars. Symbols of opulence are completely anathema to my upbringing. So I couldn't give two shits less about, "YA! LIKE, SELFIES IN A BEAMER!" or any of that hokey shit. I just want something that works and is practical. I don't need bells and whistles, and I especially don't want heated seats. For as long as I live, I vow never to buy a car with those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AChildOfBoredom View Post
    AMC Gremlin
    Edsel
    Pontiac Aztek

    What can I say? I have a particular affinity for the downtrodden. That extends to cars as it does to people. Plus, the Aztek offered an integral tent, which I thought was pretty cool.

    I've only ever had three cars. The first was an 89 Ford Ranger that I had bought for $300. It was a 2WD with a four cylinder and a five speed. I did a lot of work to it for to make it roadworthy, and this is the one which carried me from Wisconsin to North Carolina. I traded that one in on a 2009 Chevrolet Colorado 4x4 with an auto and the 5.3 V8. I miss it. I recently traded that one in on a 2018 Cruze. I like it, but it's not a pickup truck. I am a pickup truck kind of girl. I feel like I'm denying who I am with the Cruze.

    If you want my all-time favorite, the C/K series pickups from General Motors, prior to the adoption of the GMT400 platform in 1988. Especially the 1987 models, where they introduced Throttle Body Injection and disc brakes. When I was 10, I had to be able to drive around our farm, and I learned to do that with a 1977(I think?) K30 with a SM465 and a 400 small block. Perhaps I'm a little sentimental.

    I don't get hung up on fancy cars. Symbols of opulence are completely anathema to my upbringing. So I couldn't give two shits less about, "YA! LIKE, SELFIES IN A BEAMER!" or any of that hokey shit. I just want something that works and is practical. I don't need bells and whistles, and I especially don't want heated seats. For as long as I live, I vow never to buy a car with those.
    We have similar automotive ideology. I don't like luxury cars either. They're too quiet, too expensive and too delicate. People pay a mortgage size car payment just to drive a fancy car that will decrease substantially in value and cost a lot of money to maintain, especially if they take it to the dealer for service.


    You had me crackin up when you said you had a particular affinity for the downtrodden. LoL. Hay, if that's what you like. Interesting choices!

    Personally my top 3 are:

    1987 Buick Regal GNX
    2004 Ford Mustang Cobra
    2003-2011 Ford Crown Victoria with police package

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyguy09 View Post
    2003-2011 Ford Crown Victoria with police package
    I've been in the back of one of those. Nothing that bad, but I was with friends, we were drunk and lost, so the fuzz had us sleep it off in the drunk tank.

    I got to drive a Hellcat once (the privilege of being a young female others find attractive, I suppose). Way too much car for me. I'm definitely not a sports car type of person.

    I settled on the Cruze that I bought because there was another one I was looking at, but it had heated seats. I really hate those, and there's a story behind that.

    When I was 19, there was a small lump in my breast. Fortunately, it was benign, and they simply cut it out. But they sedated me pretty good, so I was being driven back home by my one (female) roommate, and her car had them. So I'm halfway out of it, and I feel the seats heat up, but I wasn't aware of what it was, and I started crying hysterically. At the end of the drive, she asked what was wrong, and I started apologizing profusely, because I thought (fortunately, incorrectly) that I'd shit myself in her car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AChildOfBoredom View Post
    I've been in the back of one of those. Nothing that bad, but I was with friends, we were drunk and lost, so the fuzz had us sleep it off in the drunk tank.

    I got to drive a Hellcat once (the privilege of being a young female others find attractive, I suppose). Way too much car for me. I'm definitely not a sports car type of person.

    I settled on the Cruze that I bought because there was another one I was looking at, but it had heated seats. I really hate those, and there's a story behind that.

    When I was 19, there was a small lump in my breast. Fortunately, it was benign, and they simply cut it out. But they sedated me pretty good, so I was being driven back home by my one (female) roommate, and her car had them. So I'm halfway out of it, and I feel the seats heat up, but I wasn't aware of what it was, and I started crying hysterically. At the end of the drive, she asked what was wrong, and I started apologizing profusely, because I thought (fortunately, incorrectly) that I'd shit myself in her car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AChildOfBoredom View Post
    I've been in the back of one of those. Nothing that bad, but I was with friends, we were drunk and lost, so the fuzz had us sleep it off in the drunk tank.

    I got to drive a Hellcat once (the privilege of being a young female others find attractive, I suppose). Way too much car for me. I'm definitely not a sports car type of person.
    Yea, those Hellcats are popular. I'm not Dodge man by any means but they sure do look and sound nice. Dodge just came out with a crate engine called the "Hellephant". 1000hp. Unbelievable.

    In my household we respected muscle cars and cars with big v8 engines. My mom and dad (long before they divorced and he turned into a pos) use to be a part of the street racing scene in the 70s. I have pin up photos of my mom standing next to my dads race car in like 1972. Those same streets they raced in the 70s my generation did in the 90s.

    Almost every weekend with good weather including the holidays in the 1990s we would cruise and meet up at the strip clubs then around 9PM drive over to street racing spots to race or watch the races until 2-3 in the morning. Nobody got killed. Nobody ever got hurt. Never seen any cars impounded or anyone arrested. Use to take my GF at the time occasionally. Even the police would sometimes just watch from the distance and not do anything to us but when they had to pull the plug on our fun they will chase us off and then open the fire hydrants to let water on the street. This was in vacant industrial areas mostly along side airports, strip clubs and major distribution centers. On a slow night 50 people, on a hot summer Saturday night 150-200+ people.

    After the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and the movie Fast and the Furious, that combination just ruined our little underground subculture fun. In states like California if they catch you street racing they can seize your car and send it right to the junkyard to be crushed.

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    When I was 19, there was a small lump in my breast. Fortunately, it was benign, and they simply cut it out. But they sedated me pretty good, so I was being driven back home by my one (female) roommate, and her car had them. So I'm halfway out of it, and I feel the seats heat up, but I wasn't aware of what it was, and I started crying hysterically. At the end of the drive, she asked what was wrong, and I started apologizing profusely, because I thought (fortunately, incorrectly) that I'd shit myself in her car.

    LoL...

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    ^yeah, the Hellcat was too much for me to handle. I had to stop and tell him, “you probably don’t want me driving this”.
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    Sooo..

    Again, w/the car, had it towed, mechanic started it tho.
    He told me to not keep the key turned too long when starting, & to pump gas pedal
    It was 9° this morning, -2 w/wind chill!
    My neighbors car didn't start either, but her son's '01 Dodge Neon did, & has been all thru the season.


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    Pump the gas pedal in an 04 with EFI? That’s something you did with the older carbureted vehicles… electronic fuel injection overrides operator input on cranking and decides on its own how to meter and trim fuel.
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    Pump the gas pedal in an 04 with EFI? That’s something you did with the older carbureted vehicles… electronic fuel injection overrides operator input on cranking and decides on its own how to meter and trim fuel.
    Each car had its preferences, how much choke how many pumps. Sometimes you had to double clutch until the transmission warmed up enough you could move the shift lever from first to second before the car came to a stop.

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    Each car had its preferences, how much choke how many pumps. Sometimes you had to double clutch until the transmission warmed up enough you could move the shift lever from first to second before the car came to a stop.
    Yeah, but choke is only relevant to a carbureted engine. An 04 will use Mass Air Flow regulation and a knock sensor to automatically make any necessary adjustments. This isn’t the 77 Chevy pickup we had on the family farm we’re talking about here.
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    Ok now it won't start @ all
    I have a can of starting fluid, but IDK how to use it


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    If it has fly-by-wire controls, it won’t make a difference, because the computer has the ability to reject operator input. If it’s a linkage or cable connected directly to a throttle body, it won’t be able to do that, but I still don’t see any real benefit to it, since again, it automatically maps out the air and timing in response. Which one GM used for that year, I’m not certain. I know they had fly-by-wire at least for the 2008 MY.

    I kinda feel like your mechanic is telling you something just to get you out of his hair. You’ve got something going on… might be as simple as fouled spark plugs, might be a weak fuel pump… I really don’t want to speculate without getting hands on.
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    This isn’t the 77 Chevy pickup we had on the family farm we’re talking about here.
    That is newer than what I was thinking about.

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    Ok now it won't start @ all
    I have a can of starting fluid, but IDK how to use it
    A little clarification before you use it. It is very flammable stuff. (Not that gasoline isn't.) I am assuming that your battery and charging system has enough to crank the engine over. (If not check charging system, battery, connections, etc.) A short shot of the starting fluid provides a more volatile charge. You'll want to spray it into the air intake, look for the air filter and the tube are that feeds it. A two to four seconds is about all it should take. Then crank it.

    Cold temperatures sap battery power, add to it a cold engine with cold thick oil, there may not be as much electrical power left for a healthy spark. garaging a vehicle helps alot. Is there any way to park near am electric power outlet? Plugging in a battery trickle charger will keep the battery warm and topped off.



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    Thanks, it's in the shop rn, for diagnostic test. (They did get it started). I'm not going to use the starter fluid.
    It had like 23 codes, they don't know if it's old codes that weren't cleared out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whirlerz View Post
    .. <snip>
    It had like 23 codes... <snip>
    OBDII testers are very inexpensive these days, even a $30 one and just googling the car model and code it gives you will tell you if it is serious or not. ... as well as things you can easily fix yourself, like a loose gas cap.

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    These are well worth the price.

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    Basic code readers are too limited in their scope. They can read and clear DTCs, and that’s it. People have a tendency to think that those DTCs are an end point; they’re actually a start point, and they simply tell you a symptom - you still have to diagnose to find a cure. A lot of people who buy code readers, I have to wonder why they bother if they don’t know what to do from that point.
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    Yes, true^
    I had to leave the car, @ repair place overnight..
    I mean, I didn't have to, but they want to try it when it's cold
    They said it started many times today.


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    Basic code readers are too limited in their scope. They can read and clear DTCs, and that’s it. People have a tendency to think that those DTCs are an end point; they’re actually a start point, and they simply tell you a symptom - you still have to diagnose to find a cure. A lot of people who buy code readers, I have to wonder why they bother if they don’t know what to do from that point.
    We had an Avalanche that was forever getting a check engine light. It was some nonsense about the gas tank ventilation, and the code reader allowed us to check it and turn the light off. I didnt want to just drive around with the light on, in case a serious problem developed.

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