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    Any more news on the pre-trial proceedings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    Any more news on the pre-trial proceedings?
    I don't think that we are going to see anything else until the next court date, which is one week from today on April 29th. This is a big one because it is the hearing on the constitutionality of the video evidence.

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    I haven’t seen anything news worthy lately but I did come across an article that outlines the various facts and themes of this case (the alleged human trafficking, government surveillance, past FL massage parlor busts etc)

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/p...419-story.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    Yes this happens more than you might think.

    It's really too bad the amount of intrusion Americans allow in their lives when it comes to politicians on "moral missions." Damned waste of taxpayer dollars....
    This could actually be an interesting topic in and of itself.

    Me personally if I were going to sell or procure sex, FL is one of the last places I’d do it. Their public record laws (IF caught), I believe the northern part of it is considered part of the Bible Belt (so there will be no shortage of people against it/thinking it’s immoral), numerous spas had been raided in the past.

    With respect to wasting resources, in my opinion, the war on pr*stitution is looking a lot like the war on drugs (the ones that are now legal like liquor and marijuana in many states)
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    I haven’t seen anything news worthy lately but I did come across an article that outlines the various facts and themes of this case (the alleged human trafficking, government surveillance, past FL massage parlor busts etc)

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/p...419-story.html
    Thanks for providing this. It's interesting that several attorneys from the old FL massage parlor cases wanted to fight the "sneak and peak" surveillance the way Kraft is, but their clients were too scared. Prosecutors always offered the same deal, with no criminal record if they did xyz. Understandably, the guys involved jumped on it. No doubt most didn't have the resources to mount a legal challenge and the ones that could were scared of the publicity.

    Except for one guy, who took a stand on principle and filed a legal challenge. Prosecutors responded by dropping all charges against the one guy who fought back. Very telling. I strongly suspect that they always knew they were on shaky legal ground and were counting on a sweet plea deal to keep them out of a court fight.

    But then they had the misfortune of catching Kraft in their net. Worse though, the Jupiter police were stupid enough to brag about it publicly, taking away the one real reason Kraft might have had to avoid a fight. Oops.

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    ^Well, part of the question is whether they had any real basis to believe that there was sex trafficking in the first place. They only mentioned it once in the affidavit for the sneak and peak warrant and it was in passing. Also, look where they placed the cameras - not in places where employees interacted or slept, but instead at the cash register and in the massage rooms. It's pretty clear that prostitution was the real target.

    The legality issue has been covered previously re: the discussion of "reasonable expectation of privacy" (which they had) in connection with our constitutional protection against unreasonable search and seizure. The police don't have the right to conduct invasive searches to catch every crime, no matter how minor, and sneak and peak warrants were never intended for this nickel and dime stuff. This may ultimately go the the Supreme Court - we shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    Except for one guy, who took a stand on principle and filed a legal challenge. Prosecutors responded by dropping all charges against the one guy who fought back. Very telling. I strongly suspect that they always knew they were on shaky legal ground and were counting on a sweet plea deal to keep them out of a court fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    I don't think that we are going to see anything else until the next court date, which is one week from today on April 29th. This is a big one because it is the hearing on the constitutionality of the video evidence.
    That is probably what I was really asking

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    Yes this happens more than you might think.

    It's really too bad the amount of intrusion Americans allow in their lives when it comes to politicians on "moral missions." Damned waste of taxpayer dollars....
    Also will be interesting to see how the nfl reacts considering they have their “moral” / personal conduct especially for leadership such as owners and manager....

    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ct-policy.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    .... I'd like to see the prostitute he was with, I bet she is beastly.
    Well jack if you must know what she looks like here is her mugshot.

    I guess “beauty” is in the “eye” of the beholder......

    http://m.tmz.com/#!2019/04/23/robert...-prostitution/

    According to the article they just arrested her - based off the surveillance video

    I’m actually more curious to see what these prosecutors, lawyers and judges look like .... with their clothes on though....unless they look like Greek gods n strippers
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