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    It has come to my attention that some 🤐 models are talking about how they won't use a certain camsite provided streaming software because they suspect 🤐 is recording them while broadcasting without their consent, and I wanted to alleviate those fears for you with some information you might not know you already have.


    When you sign up for 🤐 you agree to their TOS. (You know, that thing we all ignore and don't bother reading) The TOS explicitly states that 🤐 (and their affiliates) can take any and everything we do on their site and use it in any way they choose. 🤐 (and their affiliates) can record every second we're live, use every video or photo we upload and use anything we type in any way they choose. For example, if you do "ticket shows", google your name and "free" and you can find yourself on a plethora of tube sites. You might also find fake accounts using your photos (some of which you never uploaded to 🤐 but posted on Twitter, Instagram or Snapchat) with your name, details from your profiles, and statements like "This is really me, my only official account" that will link back to an affiliate's site. Now, I know no one likes to work for free, and we all know how the industry works. If people can get our content for free, we lose some of our business, especially when we as performers aren't in control of that free content to monitor and limit it. But don't worry, that content you create isn't always given away for free.🤐 (and their affiliates) also have the right to sell that content. That's right, uploading/streaming on 🤐 gives them the royalty-free, irrevocable right to sell that content. At the end of the day, we all know some of our porn will get out there for free, right? But at least 🤐 is protecting our privacy. Except they also claim the unconditional right to publish and/or distribute things like (but not limited to) our identities, names, cam names, and signatures.

    I would happily post screen shots of the TOS in question, but included in it is an NDA, which is why at no point is their name mentioned, and their TOS was not copied in the creation of this post. Fortunately for you, every performer has access to the TOS for their site and you can look it up now. (keeping an eye on your site's TOS and Code of Conduct is a good idea regardless of what site you're on, because most, if not all, have a tiny little paragraph stating that they can change the contract/rules at any time without notifying performers.)

    Happy camming!


    TLDR: No, 🤐 is not recording you without permission. Every time you go log in you give permission to an unknown number of individuals to record you.

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    Default Re: Cam Site TOS Transparency

    I think some members were talking about the possibility of a site recording computer screen activity. & not necessarily our streams. Here is a quote mentioned about it:

    Quote Originally Posted by KarinaGiselle View Post
    Why do they keep trying to shove SM Broadcast down our throats? And what guarantee do they have that they won't be recording, not just our stream, but also our screen activity? When I used to work at a call center, they were able to record all of our screen activity to ensure we weren't commiting fraud (It was a bank). When I used SMBroadcast, I noticed it used LOTS of resources through the Windows Task Manager, not just CPU cycles but also RAM and HDD usage. I'd like to dive further into what exactly it is doing but I suspect that thing is either constantly recording our stream or worse, recording what we're also doing in our computers while we stream, which is clearly a violation of our privacy. Again, I can neither confirm nor deny this, I need to dig deeper, but this is scary simply because WE'RE USING OUR OWN COMPUTERS FOR THIS JOB! They're not Streamate's property.

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    Default Re: Cam Site TOS Transparency

    For years cam sites have been making thier own broadcast software. As for what is in the software exactly who knows.

    If you are cautious about their broadcast software, recordining your screen while you are online. you will definitely need to invest in a computer. that is only for broadcasting for webcam and all activity on that computer is for webcam shows only.

    with how technology is going and the war on online porn they have to make their own software to keep up with the business operations.

    IF you want to change and reinvent the industry go ahead, you have to change over 20 years of this business operating the way it has been. From conferences, software development, traffic, marketing and advertising, and of course documentaries and short stories that come up and want to shine light on this booming lucrative industry


    This TOS agreement is always there right in front of you. but I guess people are too stress about making money, they go blind on what they are agreeing to. Then wake up from a coma and realize what they have done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halo88 View Post
    I think some members were talking about the possibility of a site recording computer screen activity. & not necessarily our streams. Here is a quote mentioned about it:
    What I've seen was specifically about using the broadcaster to record video feeds, rather than screen activity, but when I worked for a call center and dealt with billing they recorded our screens too. It's not outside the realm of possibility for that to be something cam sites, the site in question in particular, would do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    For years cam sites have been making thier own broadcast software. As for what is in the software exactly who knows.

    If you are cautious about their broadcast software, recordining your screen while you are online. you will definitely need to invest in a computer. that is only for broadcasting for webcam and all activity on that computer is for webcam shows only.

    with how technology is going and the war on online porn they have to make their own software to keep up with the business operations.

    IF you want to change and reinvent the industry go ahead, you have to change over 20 years of this business operating the way it has been. From conferences, software development, traffic, marketing and advertising, and of course documentaries and short stories that come up and want to shine light on this booming lucrative industry


    This TOS agreement is always there right in front of you. but I guess people are too stress about making money, they go blind on what they are agreeing to. Then wake up from a coma and realize what they have done.
    Who's to say that just because something has been done this way for a long time means it's best to keep it moving in that direction? Based on that logic, why should women have the right to vote?

    The TOS is question has not always given this site the right to distribute our legal names, take life long irrevocable royalty free ownership of our content or take legal action against performers for selling their own content.

    My point was that we should all be more vigilant about making sure we know what's in a legally binding contract the site can change at any time without notifying you.
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