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    Default Re: Career Stripper in 2019

    Babe, in this thread, I don’t think that’s what we are talking about when we say ‘meeting a customer outside the club,’ but bless you and all the money you made <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by StellaRose View Post
    @yaya At the two clubs I’ve worked at in the DFW area, I’ve actually been impressed with management. There’s a level of professionalism, and not being just a number (despite the clubs themselves being so high volume)

    The San Antonio/Austin area is generally more indifferent management. (But there’s exceptions) However the positive trade off is that there is no scheduling or shift minimum rules. There have been lots of times I showed up, netted $200-$300, after tip out, and bounced out and was home long before the club closed. And I don’t ask permission to leave. Just get dressed and have everyone’s tip in hand. So it’s not all bad.

    But the main point I was trying to make earlier is that I agree that there’s still a certain amount of reality with what EastCoastDancer was saying about putting out because of financial stability ( if travel isn’t possible.) In addition, IMO when *a little* putting out happens I do think it helps the $ somewhat for everyone in the club, In the same way the fact that some lottery ticket purchasers win helps sales) But yes, past a certain saturation point, it does get to be a problem and is a race to the bottom. Which I worry about and I hate those environments too. Which is why I think she emphasized ~selected~ regulars.

    I’m more motivated by the hustle. For me personally, I’m sure there would be more money for less hours if I transitioned into fssw. I’ve been tempted once or twice to quit dancing and put up a few online ads. But at the end of it all, I view the strip club like an arcade game and I play it for fun.
    This is my experience in Dallas too. Yaya, maybe you just happened to run into some bad eggs. I love working in Texas and I have traveled around—Houston is gross but that’s the only place I didn’t like.

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    The question posed by the OP is basic, but the answer is sooooo complicated!

    The answer will depend on your desired standard of living, whether or not you're paying taxes on your dancing income, how good you are at saving money (it's easy to spend money quickly when you make it quickly), how much money you put into your business (commuting, outfits, physical upkeep), how frequently you're able to work, how consistently you're able to work, where you're located, how you're investing your money in IRAs/etc., how good you are at selling, how profitable your "look" is, whether or not you find a club where you can maximize your earnings potential... the list goes on and on.

    Selina M once said that, in general, dancers now can expect to make a livable, comfortable wage. There will always be that 1% of dancers who bank consistently and have the energy to keep that up.

    But if you're just starting in the industry, it's smartest to assume that you won't be one of the lucky 1% (no matter how great you feel about dancing in the first 1-2 years), meaning you should have a serious backup plan in place for your future. Most dancers need that backup plan at some point, and having one will only help you. Melonie used to advise newbies to approach the job like a professional athlete, since your dancing days are probably numbered. If you're taking dancing seriously, then you need to work towards maximizing your earnings potential and saving as much money as possible (while investing smartly) for the inevitable end of your career.

    I truly believe that it's healthiest to have one foot in the vanilla world at all times while you're dancing - take a class or two, volunteer, get an internship, or keep a part- or full-time job to help yourself stay sane, grounded, and connected to the real world.

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    ^ Aw, it gives me warm fuzzies whenever you quote me

    That's definitely still my sentiment. In my city, to be quite frank, the only girls I see consistently banking (like, $500+ nightly) at LEAST are giving HJs in the back. Many are meeting customers OTC as well. If you aren't down with that, you can still make a decent living, but it isn't anything you'll be able to retire on when your dancing days are over. I hear similar from my friend who was in Cali before the new laws and now goes between Vegas & Texas.

    Another note from my experiences, every single one of our top earners are either on Adderall or have 3+ drinks every shift to keep their energy & tolerance for bullshit up. This is really not good for your health.

    This is a hard industry & it's difficult to really get that through to newbies. I've seen countless posts of "I want to be a career stripper! It's been 2 months & I love my job! I'm quitting my vanilla job to dance full time!" I've seen ONE girl stick around, and the reality hit her pretty quickly.

    Other things to keep in mind: There's a finite number of 'good' hours in the club usually too, and a lot of areas have 'season' as well. Your earnings get seriously hampered that way.... $100/hour on Friday & Saturday doesn't equate to a huge yearly salary if your club is dead as a doornail the other days.

    Agreed with Charlie that you need to keep a foot in the regular world somehow and be prepared for the day you have to quit dancing. There is always camming/clips/other sex industry stuff too, but not everyone wants to go that way.

    Edit for one last thought: it's not IMPOSSIBLE to retire on moderate dancer earnings. If you want to be insanely frugal (look up "FIRE" or Mr Money Mustache - he is a loony and extreme about it, but the principles are there), you could probably do it. Realistically though, most people like to take nice vacations & have nice stuff and/or don't have the discipline for this. Tis a thought though!
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    It's a good time to tell new dancers about "season." Right now, in most areas, it's the dry season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    ^ Aw, it gives me warm fuzzies whenever you quote me

    That's definitely still my sentiment. In my city, to be quite frank, the only girls I see consistently banking (like, $500+ nightly) at LEAST are giving HJs in the back. Many are meeting customers OTC as well. If you aren't down with that, you can still make a decent living, but it isn't anything you'll be able to retire on when your dancing days are over. I hear similar from my friend who was in Cali before the new laws and now goes between Vegas & Texas.

    Another note from my experiences, every single one of our top earners are either on Adderall or have 3+ drinks every shift to keep their energy & tolerance for bullshit up. This is really not good for your health.

    This is a hard industry & it's difficult to really get that through to newbies. I've seen countless posts of "I want to be a career stripper! It's been 2 months & I love my job! I'm quitting my vanilla job to dance full time!" I've seen ONE girl stick around, and the reality hit her pretty quickly.

    Other things to keep in mind: There's a finite number of 'good' hours in the club usually too, and a lot of areas have 'season' as well. Your earnings get seriously hampered that way.... $100/hour on Friday & Saturday doesn't equate to a huge yearly salary if your club is dead as a doornail the other days.

    Agreed with Charlie that you need to keep a foot in the regular world somehow and be prepared for the day you have to quit dancing. There is always camming/clips/other sex industry stuff too, but not everyone wants to go that way.

    Edit for one last thought: it's not IMPOSSIBLE to retire on moderate dancer earnings. If you want to be insanely frugal (look up "FIRE" or Mr Money Mustache - he is a loony and extreme about it, but the principles are there), you could probably do it. Realistically though, most people like to take nice vacations & have nice stuff and/or don't have the discipline for this. Tis a thought though!
    Right!

    For non-student dancers, I think it'd be quite nice to have a low-stress day/evening job (even just as a cashier at Trader Joe's or something - i've read that they make very decent money - check out our Job Search Support thread on here for good info)... find something that offers a decent hourly wage plus health and 401k benefits, ideally (hint: larger companies tend to offer better benefits). And then dance 1-2 nights a week for extra income. Even just from a time- management perspective, if you only dance 1-3 shifts a week consistently (and even that is a lot to do consistently, IME), what are you doing during the rest of your week? It's important to have something else going on just to give your life some structure. And if you're paying for all of your own benefits with no help from an employer, that's pretty brutal (taxes, health insurance, retirement investing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinksugardoll View Post
    This is my experience in Dallas too. Yaya, maybe you just happened to run into some bad eggs. I love working in Texas and I have traveled around—Houston is gross but that’s the only place I didn’t like.
    It seems like these people are only indifferent/mean to me or because of skin color. And Ive never been treated so bad, that is the reason I hate Houston and Texas, in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yaya_cash View Post
    And are you expected to be groped by a customer with him feeling entitled to your body without him paying you anything.p?
    Touching and groping are two VERY different things. Anyway, you should be on guard because they will try to grope you regardless of whether or not you're OK with it. Many girls are OK with it and even charge extra for that. This has nothing to do with me, but just what goes on where I work on a regular basis. I also didn't think Dallas was much different as far mileage.

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