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    I've been paying estimated taxes this year, and I am hoping to keep the fact I was an entertainer out of my history. Is this possible? My club didn't file a 1099 with me last year, but I am not sure how this works.

    I was 1099 for two other jobs in my life (both vanilla jobs not in night-life or strip clubs) and I was hoping to make it seem like I earned this money the same way. Is this possible? I will not have an Employee ID for these estimated taxes unless I request my club to file a 1099 for me. However, I want to keep this work off my record if possible because I plan to take the bar exam this year and have to go through Character & Fitness. From my understanding, they will check the resume I send to my university and and possibly my tax returns (which required every job I've ever worked in the past ten years.) Any discrepancies yield a red flag, but there's no way I am putting Entertainer at a Strip Club on my resume!

    I appreciate any advice and help. Thank you !

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    Default Re: Keeping "Entertainer" off the Record

    put bartender or waitress, the 1099 doesnt have to show what you do

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    Default Re: Keeping "Entertainer" off the Record

    If a club gives you a 1099 there will be a link between the club and you (via your ssn or ein) but what role you play in the club is what you have a bit of discretion at providing. There is a member here melonie who posted on this subject and Zofia is savvy in this area too. I believe they mention you can use the code that corresponds to performance/art on your schedule C

    as far as resume, not sure I would even put it on there (unless I did not have other vanilla income stream to offset any gaps in work history). If you put it in there you could do like mentioned above and list waitress/bartender/etc as your position

    I’m not a tax pro so do your due diligence

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    Default Re: Keeping "Entertainer" off the Record

    If you are paying your club to be there rather than the other way around, the odds are good that they are not issuing 1099s for dancers. In their view, you are simply renting the right to offer your services to customers. This is probably why they did not issue you a 1099 last year.

    Vanilla employers, on the other hand, would typically 1099 you because they are paying you directly for services. If you earn more than $600 in a year from a company for your services, then they are supposed to issue you a 1099.

    There is no reason why you have to be specific about how you earned the money. Keep in mind also though that tax return information is highly confidential and cannot be accessed by employers or credit providers, among others. So long as you do not use the club on any rental or credit applications and don't need a license to dance, you should be fine.

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    The proper NAICS code to use on your tax return is 7115- Independent Artists, Writers and Performers. It's the code for strippers, dancers, singers, novelists, clowns and the like. So, Steven King uses 7115 on his tax return, so does Beyonce and Lady Gaga. 7115 is what the IRS gives out when someone sends them a Form 4506T. Which you will have to sign for any state licensing board. The tax transcript is not a copy of your tax return, but a slightly coded series of numbers and letters. For example, 1099s are usually just given as an EIN and an amount. Sometimes, the transcript will have the 1099 issuer's name. For a W-2, the same information, just EIN and amounts.

    That said, most state bars can and do use an FBI level background check. If you think you can keep stripping a secret from the FBI, well don't. So, should you not strip if you want a law license? It probably won't be a factor. The bar is looking to see if you are shady in your dealings with money. I would check with an attorney in the state you want to be licensed to see for sure. It's money well spent. Oh, and never ever lie to a state regulator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    If you are paying your club to be there rather than the other way around, the odds are good that they are not issuing 1099s for dancers. In their view, you are simply renting the right to offer your services to customers. This is probably why they did not issue you a 1099 last year.

    Vanilla employers, on the other hand, would typically 1099 you because they are paying you directly for services. If you earn more than $600 in a year from a company for your services, then they are supposed to issue you a 1099.

    There is no reason why you have to be specific about how you earned the money. Keep in mind also though that tax return information is highly confidential and cannot be accessed by employers or credit providers, among others. So long as you do not use the club on any rental or credit applications and don't need a license to dance, you should be fine.
    I do have a license to dance. I never even considered that! Where does that information show up?

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    Default Re: Keeping "Entertainer" off the Record

    I knew one girl who stripped her way through law school and was fine. Keep us posted. I’m sure everything will be fine, but I feel you.

    Good luck.
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    Default Re: Keeping "Entertainer" off the Record

    Licensing entities are likely subject to open records laws, and many have online searches for licensees. Like these: https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/verify.htm , https://www.trec.texas.gov/apps/lice...ry=Real+Estate

    The Bar, wherever you are is more concerned with criminal activity. As long as what you are doing is legal, you should be OK. Did you not have to file a Declaration of Intent to Study Law?

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    I'm not sure that you couldn't keep stripping confidential in the face of a normal FBI background review. I have some experience with this and if it was cash and carry, with no licensing requirement, and you never used the club as an "employer" on any credit app, then you would probably be fine. The FBI does not normally use "boots on the ground" and other invasive investigative techniques unless you are looking to become part of law enforcement or are seeking a security clearance.

    But in this case your license is going to make it easy for them. I'm going to safely assume that you were fingerprinted when they ran your license app. You will be fingerprinted again when you apply for admission to the Bar. The FBI maintains the national fingerprint database and the previous fingerprint search will be on file. If the reason for the check is not already in their system (which it may be), a quick inquiry with the agency that ran the check will lead them to it. Any state/local LE will also be able to dig it up by chasing down these fingerprint records. Net-net there is no hiding it now.

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    ^ From a cursory Google and look at the FBI's site, it looks like when you submit your fingerprints for a background check, they just check them against whether any in their system were for a criminal arrest. I don't see why they would send back a list of every time you've ever been fingerprinted in your life.
    It also says you can submit (for a fee) to have them send you a history of your fingerprints that they may have. It says it returns info that they collect which includes federal employment, naturalization and military. That might be smart for OP to do.

    OP, you mainly need to be very careful that all your paperwork matches - resume vs. what might come up on a background check or credit report. The bar doesn't fuck around with the "character" part. They will not look kindly if they catch you lying somehow. That is what I would be more worried about, frankly. Get copies of anything you can. Personally I'd buy a report from LexisNexis, they have a horrifying amount of info on people.
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    ^ This is not entirely accurate. Those FBI fingerprint checks also include known employment history, residential addresses and virtually every known interaction you've had with LE. They are not always 100% accurate or complete, but a license obtained through fingerprinting in a local PD is a no-brainer. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but it's important for dancers to understand that working in places where licenses are required comes with additional potential exposure.

    To be clear, it's not really a big risk in standard corporate employment screenings, which usually go no further than a "by name" criminal records check and, in some instances, credit checks. But if you are applying for any type of sensitive position which requires fingerprinting or deeper background searches, like teaching, legal, work in certain financial services jobs, security clearances, law enforcement or certain other government employment, etc., it is likely to come up. That doesn't mean that stripping automatically precludes you from doing some of these things, but just be aware.

    If you want your dancing to be completely off the radar, you need to be 100% cash and carry and have no record of the job on any government database or credit app (including apartment lease app). Girls pull it off all the time, some even stripping at night while working sensitive vanilla jobs during the day.

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    There is a woman working as a prostitute at at Sheri's Ranch that I've actually corresponded with via email, and she's a lawyer. It's not a huge deal apparently. She is open about it. I'm a dancer who will be applying to med school, soon and I'm not terribly concerned about "entertainer" showing up on the background checks, tbh. I did decide to opt out of brothel work, though.


    This is the profile of the referenced woman:
    https://www.sherisranch.com/lady.aspx?id=721

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    If she can get away with admitting she is a lawyer, then being an entertainer should not be a problem.

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    Default Re: Keeping "Entertainer" off the Record

    U are over thinking way too much lmao and why would it be on ur resume common sense says dont put this info on a resume or application. You do know a resume is published and made by u right

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharktime View Post
    I've been paying estimated taxes this year, and I am hoping to keep the fact I was an entertainer out of my history. Is this possible? My club didn't file a 1099 with me last year, but I am not sure how this works.

    I was 1099 for two other jobs in my life (both vanilla jobs not in night-life or strip clubs) and I was hoping to make it seem like I earned this money the same way. Is this possible? I will not have an Employee ID for these estimated taxes unless I request my club to file a 1099 for me. However, I want to keep this work off my record if possible because I plan to take the bar exam this year and have to go through Character & Fitness. From my understanding, they will check the resume I send to my university and and possibly my tax returns (which required every job I've ever worked in the past ten years.) Any discrepancies yield a red flag, but there's no way I am putting Entertainer at a Strip Club on my resume!

    I appreciate any advice and help. Thank you !
    I have entertainer on my taxes as well. I've decided if I ever get questioned I will say I used to be involved with acting and wrote down entertainer. There's vanilla jobs out there that count under the category of entertainer.

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    Default Re: Keeping "Entertainer" off the Record

    This post is almost 10 months old but still, there's no reason that you can't put something else on your taxes. Instead of entertainer you could put fitness trainer, customer service representative, freelance model, etc. I usually go with customer service representative. It has less negative judgement than putting entertainer, stripper, phone sex operator, or webcam chat host.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WendiStarr View Post
    This post is almost 10 months old but still, there's no reason that you can't put something else on your taxes. Instead of entertainer you could put fitness trainer, customer service representative, freelance model, etc. I usually go with customer service representative. It has less negative judgement than putting entertainer, stripper, phone sex operator, or webcam chat host.

    If you get a 1099 from the club, what can you put that doesn't sound like an entertainer?

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    7115- Independent Artists, Writers and Performers

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    Being somewhat repetitive, the number you use on your tax return for stripping is: 7115- Independent Artists, Writers and Performers. It's the code for strippers, dancers, singers, novelists, clowns and the like. So, Steven King uses 7115 on his tax return, so does Beyonce and Lady Gaga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bananaqueen View Post
    7115- Independent Artists, Writers and Performers
    Thank you! But there is a line there where you need to put the occupation, in words. I have put performing artist in the past but it's the same as entertainer. I like the customer service representative idea but how would it look if I have a 1099 from the club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelina View Post
    If you get a 1099 from the club, what can you put that doesn't sound like an entertainer?

    You could put bartender or waitress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WendiStarr View Post
    You could put bartender or waitress.
    I think bartenders and waitresses are considered employees, 1099 is a form they give to independent contactors.

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    Like this




    That's an entertainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelina View Post
    I think bartenders and waitresses are considered employees, 1099 is a form they give to independent contactors.
    It depends on where. I have worked at a strip club before as a waitress and was still an independent contractor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WendiStarr View Post
    It depends on where. I have worked at a strip club before as a waitress and was still an independent contractor.
    Thank you, it's good to know!

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