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    Default Re: Has this summer been slow everywhere?

    That’s awesome but the whole point of stripping is not to have to work five days a week that’s why I got into the industry �� lol I make about that average a night in the Midwest but I hate having to work so much, Not like it used to be 5+ years ago where we could only work two or three days a week and make stacks

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    I’ve been saying this same thing for years! I really believe this is true and what is happening I think strip clubs are a dying trend

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    Default Re: Has this summer been slow everywhere?

    Last year it was so dead summer through winter. Spring seems to be the only good season in San Diego. But you really gotta hustle...i dont know about this year, i didnt work.

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    so mother f*n slow in Miami.

    during the week? DEAD

    on the weekend? full of people with no money

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    As a sex worker (escort, bodyrub, dancer, webcam,phonesex, content creator,sugarbabe) I remember my first slow summer. The slow season started for me in early June at that time. It was probably one of the scariest times during my sex work career. My best advice, from sex worker to sex worker, is to definitely change up your summertime strategy and start other side hustles, like jumping on the snapchat premium bandwagon, webcamming, phone sex, sexting, even touring. If anything I try to use the slow time as a way to polish my brand, work on my social media presence, and write new ads. There are definitely lines that women will cross when desperate, and I don't believe anyone should have to jeopardize their personal morals to make money.

    Also, please don't anyone feed into the notion that sex work/stripping/phonesex/or any other form of paying for the pussy is dying, it is not. Rather it is evolving, especially as technology and ideologies evolve or change. Change up your hustle. What you were doing 5 years, 5 months, 5 weeks ago, even 5 days ago may not yield the same results it does today. Therefore, switch it up, and try not to stay stagnant or complacent. Sex work is a problem solving game, and complacency will guarantee your failure. We are faced with hurdles of varying heights throughout our entire careers. Whether it's slow summers, striptenders taking all the money, backpage shutting down, fosta sesta, police stings, police raids, high costs of ads, high house fees,racism, colorism, classism, body shaming, whorephobia ; all of these are just some funky ass hurdles. Hard, but not impossible to conquer.

    With that being said I hope everyone makes up for July's losses and takes home no less than a band a night.
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    Thank you sooo much for this, couldn’t have said it better. I was so tired of the same ol “the industry isn’t the same, get an exit plan” line from dancers on here. No need for the discouragement. Like you said, it’s just time to switch things up. I was in limbo for a while and began to feel that way but I changed up my location and my look and now things are back amazing like they used to be. Adapt ladies 🤘🏽



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    As a sex worker (escort, bodyrub, dancer, webcam,phonesex, content creator,sugarbabe) I remember my first slow summer. The slow season started for me in early June at that time. It was probably one of the scariest times during my sex work career. My best advice, from sex worker to sex worker, is to definitely change up your summertime strategy and start other side hustles, like jumping on the snapchat premium bandwagon, webcamming, phone sex, sexting, even touring. If anything I try to use the slow time as a way to polish my brand, work on my social media presence, and write new ads. There are definitely lines that women will cross when desperate, and I don't believe anyone should have to jeopardize their personal morals to make money.

    Also, please don't anyone feed into the notion that sex work/stripping/phonesex/or any other form of paying for the pussy is dying, it is not. Rather it is evolving, especially as technology and ideologies evolve or change. Change up your hustle. What you were doing 5 years, 5 months, 5 weeks ago, even 5 days ago may not yield the same results it does today. Therefore, switch it up, and try not to stay stagnant or complacent. Sex work is a problem solving game, and complacency will guarantee your failure. We are faced with hurdles of varying heights throughout our entire careers. Whether it's slow summers, striptenders taking all the money, backpage shutting down, fosta sesta, police stings, police raids, high costs of ads, high house fees,racism, colorism, classism, body shaming, whorephobia ; all of these are just some funky ass hurdles. Hard, but not impossible to conquer.

    With that being said I hope everyone makes up for July's losses and takes home no less than a band a night.

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    Hell yeah. Guys get tired of the same look. I realized that my slow summer wasn't due to lack of clients/money but rather I hadn't switched up my pics, or ad text and honestly had ran through most of the clients in my small town. New pics and a quick visit to a neighboring town worked wonders.
    There is no magical location or formula that will have clients/customers throwing money on you 247 besides consistency and adaption.
    I see women asking all the time "where can I make money" " where can black girls make money" "where can thick girls make money"
    Stop asking and just go. What works for some wont work for others. I don't move around based on whether or not someone told me there was money to be made in an area. I move how I want and I make the situation work for me. I adapted my hustle to allow to me to go anywhere at any time and still make a profit. (This coming from a 30+year old black sw)


    Quote Originally Posted by dxsanders View Post
    Thank you sooo much for this, couldn’t have said it better. I was so tired of the same ol “the industry isn’t the same, get an exit plan” line from dancers on here. No need for the discouragement. Like you said, it’s just time to switch things up. I was in limbo for a while and began to feel that way but I changed up my location and my look and now things are back amazing like they used to be. Adapt ladies 🤘🏽

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    Nobody, to my knowledge, has ever said on here that sex work as a whole is dying. But you are naive if you think *dancing* isn't becoming less profitable. You can move cities all you want but eventually it will catch up in some fashion... could be just a slow decline of $$, could be something dramatic like the Dynamex ruling, could be something in-between like the NY bartender fiasco.... But I would bet a lot of money that dancing itself will be extinct at some point.

    The 'get an exit plan' line is always sound advice unless you are sure you want to do some form of sex work for the rest of your life, in which case yes, doing what you girls are talking about and just changing to camming or some other hustle is viable. But most girls don't want to stay in this industry forever, or do anything un-anonymous or illegal, so that point is moot to them. Eventually they get sick of the industry and some are faced with being forced to still work in it while trying to get a degree or whatever they need to exit into their chosen next career. Best to plan a way out *before* you start to feel like you might want to leave. That is the situation we are touting 'get an exit plan' for.
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    Default Re: Has this summer been slow everywhere?

    Girl, actually read what I wrote, I said SEX WORK as a whole is not dying. And I am not here to give exit plan advice, if that was the topic we were discussing then understandable. The question was about the slow season, which I don't believe in. If we are discussing a slow season in a forum dedicated to sex work, then I'm going to choose to answer accordingly, which is make other suggestions in regards to sex work. The question was not. "what vanilla job should I get now?".

    I love reading the questions and spouting my own random advice but something I have learned from this forum as well is, not everybody is built for sex work, dancing, whatever you are into. Many will complain about every discrepancy they have in this industry, and expect someone to hold their hand through every trial and tribulation. The minute money isn't falling into their laps "the industry is dead!!!" lmao . Adapt or die .


    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    Nobody, to my knowledge, has ever said on here that sex work as a whole is dying. But you are naive if you think *dancing* isn't becoming less profitable. You can move cities all you want but eventually it will catch up in some fashion... could be just a slow decline of $$, could be something dramatic like the Dynamex ruling, could be something in-between like the NY bartender fiasco.... But I would bet a lot of money that dancing itself will be extinct at some point.

    The 'get an exit plan' line is always sound advice unless you are sure you want to do some form of sex work for the rest of your life, in which case yes, doing what you girls are talking about and just changing to camming or some other hustle is viable. But most girls don't want to stay in this industry forever, or do anything un-anonymous or illegal, so that point is moot to them. Eventually they get sick of the industry and some are faced with being forced to still work in it while trying to get a degree or whatever they need to exit into their chosen next career. Best to plan a way out *before* you start to feel like you might want to leave. That is the situation we are touting 'get an exit plan' for.

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    ^ I wasn't saying you said it was dying Take the attitude down a notch.

    The question was about slow season, in the forum entitled Club Chat, meaning it is about stripping. The discussion of coping by going into other avenues of sex work isn't gonna be helpful to a lot of girls who only want to dance. That's fine if you want to say 'adapt or die' because you obviously are ok with doing other forms of sex work, but it isn't always applicable.
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    Stop reading into an attitude that is not there just because I don't sugarcoat and hold hands during advice time like people are children. Everything I said was applicable for club work and if someone can't take the advice and use it for stripping, that no longer becomes my problem. If you're willing to dance, then selling a few pics and phone sex isn't going against some solid morals. If it is, guess what, still not my problem honestly. OP wants to know about slow season, my opinion still stands, there is no slow season to speak of, and the sex industry isn't dying. If that were the case porn would've stopped us before we started.

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    Well June was ok for me, July I was away, and August is slow as usual. We definitely have a slow season here in NYC. You can see it just by the club numbers. Head count is down, sales are down, so everyone is making less money. Thats not to say you CANT make money, it will just be less than winter usually.

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    There's really no way to "change up your hustle" for someone whose a dancer and unwilling to do any other kind of sex work. (Besides traveling) I don't feel like this advice would really help unless you're willing to cross over into cams, online advertising, escorting, snap premium etc. I don't do this because I don't want my face or body all over the internet, so it isn't really a moral issue. I simply don't want to be recognized.
    THAT BEING SAID, if you are willing to do other stuff, I think this is really really GOOD ADVICE. Using social media, making a snap premium would definitely bring you extra customers and extra cash.

    Stripping (not sex work as a whole) is definitely slowing down and isn't what it was 11-12 years ago. I am OK with that and I have adapted. My strategy has been to try and cultivate relationships with regulars and treat stripping as a job rather than a party. It is also smart to have an exit plan or a plan b.

    Yes, this is actually the first summer I've noticed to be slow. I always used to hear girls bitch about "slow season" and never really believed it until this year. There's been far less customers in the clubs this summer. I've done very well compared to most, but not as good as other months. I just keep on truckin'.

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    You're a dancer, a certified hustler, you can always change it up. Think outside YOUR usual box. Get a mentoring package. Learn something new!
    If you go back to 2006 in the forum there are women then saying the industry is dying. It's a state of mind. Complacency is the true issue and I fall victim to it as well.
    And if it's slow and the industry is dying, then quit and go vanilla.

    Quote Originally Posted by KenzieJ View Post
    There's really no way to "change up your hustle" for someone whose a dancer and unwilling to do any other kind of sex work. (Besides traveling) I don't feel like this advice would really help unless you're willing to cross over into cams, online advertising, escorting, snap premium etc. I don't do this because I don't want my face or body all over the internet, so it isn't really a moral issue. I simply don't want to be recognized.
    THAT BEING SAID, if you are willing to do other stuff, I think this is really really GOOD ADVICE. Using social media, making a snap premium would definitely bring you extra customers and extra cash.

    Stripping (not sex work as a whole) is definitely slowing down and isn't what it was 11-12 years ago. I am OK with that and I have adapted. My strategy has been to try and cultivate relationships with regulars and treat stripping as a job rather than a party. It is also smart to have an exit plan or a plan b.

    Yes, this is actually the first summer I've noticed to be slow. I always used to hear girls bitch about "slow season" and never really believed it until this year. There's been far less customers in the clubs this summer. I've done very well compared to most, but not as good as other months. I just keep on truckin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaMorgan View Post
    You're a dancer, a certified hustler, you can always change it up. Think outside YOUR usual box. Get a mentoring package. Learn something new!
    If you go back to 2006 in the forum there are women then saying the industry is dying. It's a state of mind. Complacency is the true issue and I fall victim to it as well.
    And if it's slow and the industry is dying, then quit and go vanilla.

    Most definitely. People say the "good old days" of dancing are gone, but that doesn't mean it isn't still profitable. I will graduate and start vanilla work in two years, but I frankly don't want to. I would be a stripper forever if I could.. LOL. I don't see myself staying out of the club for a while.. It's so much fun

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    I feel the same about sex work in general. Believing in the end to me, means believing I can't do what I love anymore. Completely defeating the purpose. That's why I try to use every shitty moment ( bp shut down, arrested, eros ban, sesta/fosta) as a learning experience. I got tired of feeling bad for myself, tired of not being able to do what others do. Then I remembered I have to do this for me and make it work for me. And I've never looked back. I'm just hoping that more sex workers can adopt this notion and not give up, ESPECIALLY if you truly enjoy your work.

    Quote Originally Posted by KenzieJ View Post
    Most definitely. People say the "good old days" of dancing are gone, but that doesn't mean it isn't still profitable. I will graduate and start vanilla work in two years, but I frankly don't want to. I would be a stripper forever if I could.. LOL. I don't see myself staying out of the club for a while.. It's so much fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenzieJ View Post
    There's really no way to "change up your hustle" for someone whose a dancer and unwilling to do any other kind of sex work. (Besides traveling) I don't feel like this advice would really help unless you're willing to cross over into cams, online advertising, escorting, snap premium etc. I don't do this because I don't want my face or body all over the internet, so it isn't really a moral issue. I simply don't want to be recognized.
    THAT BEING SAID, if you are willing to do other stuff, I think this is really really GOOD ADVICE. Using social media, making a snap premium would definitely bring you extra customers and extra cash.

    Stripping (not sex work as a whole) is definitely slowing down and isn't what it was 11-12 years ago. I am OK with that and I have adapted. My strategy has been to try and cultivate relationships with regulars and treat stripping as a job rather than a party. It is also smart to have an exit plan or a plan b.

    Yes, this is actually the first summer I've noticed to be slow. I always used to hear girls bitch about "slow season" and never really believed it until this year. There's been far less customers in the clubs this summer. I've done very well compared to most, but not as good as other months. I just keep on truckin'.
    it's true that if you aren't wiling to do certain things as a dancer, then you will most likely be left behind.

    there's a lot you can do: premium snap, selling pics, promote on IG and host at clubs, give your number and meet otc, etc etc etc. I am not willing to do ANY of these (totally my own problem though) and it's getting harder and harder for me based on how the industry is evolving. I can't even work at certain clubs - the ones with a great customer base - because I don't want to be on camera...

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    Quote Originally Posted by crystalize View Post
    it's true that if you aren't wiling to do certain things as a dancer, then you will most likely be left behind.

    there's a lot you can do: premium snap, selling pics, promote on IG and host at clubs, give your number and meet otc, etc etc etc. I am not willing to do ANY of these (totally my own problem though) and it's getting harder and harder for me based on how the industry is evolving. I can't even work at certain clubs - the ones with a great customer base - because I don't want to be on camera...
    What clubs are you on camera?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crystalize View Post
    it's true that if you aren't wiling to do certain things as a dancer, then you will most likely be left behind.

    there's a lot you can do: premium snap, selling pics, promote on IG and host at clubs, give your number and meet otc, etc etc etc. I am not willing to do ANY of these (totally my own problem though) and it's getting harder and harder for me based on how the industry is evolving. I can't even work at certain clubs - the ones with a great customer base - because I don't want to be on camera...
    I've seen a few girls mention this. I don't know but a few clubs here in Houston that use social media or cameras inside. If they do, it's only for the occasional advertisement. That's crazy. So they literally record you guys? No way would I ever be OK with that. The furthest I'd go would be giving out my number and possibly meeting otc. I wouldn't be OK with being filmed either, I totally agree.

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    September 1st is coming, we're getting out of the slow season. Though, over the few years, it seems like the busy season is being pushed one week further. Last year, it picked up in late-late-September to early-October. Hopefully, it starts early-September like the old days.

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    I'm putting this here b/c it will be seen- Midwestern girls, be aware that some parts of the Midwest have been hit hard by the trade war & related issues.....This means that a lot of girls who used to be able to count on farmer money and hunter money might not be making the same until the next election is through...& Maybe a ways after that. I'm not being political, just pointing out something that is happening.

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    Phone sex is always an option and selling used underwear.

    Quote Originally Posted by crystalize View Post
    it's true that if you aren't wiling to do certain things as a dancer, then you will most likely be left behind.

    there's a lot you can do: premium snap, selling pics, promote on IG and host at clubs, give your number and meet otc, etc etc etc. I am not willing to do ANY of these (totally my own problem though) and it's getting harder and harder for me based on how the industry is evolving. I can't even work at certain clubs - the ones with a great customer base - because I don't want to be on camera...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroSugarMonster View Post
    What clubs are you on camera?
    literally every club that is decent started having 'events' where people come perform or whatever. that means a bunch of guys with their girlfriends in the club, all filming themselves and the dancers, as well as professional camera teams taking videos of girls for promo. most girls are a okay with it, they have their dancer IG's where they are constantly on IG LIVE recording themselves in the background.

    these clubs are all the black clubs, eleven, booby traps, to name a few.

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