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    Default How do you have patience for very slow hustles??

    Hey girls, so I am less and less patient and want to spend less and less time talking to guys before trying to close a sale due to burnout. And normally how I operate at a decent to fast pace works in many places. But I just moved somewhere that it is a slow hustle for all of the girls no matter what they look like or how they act. Here a lot of girls pounce on customers as soon as they sit down, and they proceed to shmooze him at least 15 min, but I have also seen an hour or longer shmoozing. So then they get like a shitty single song dance and some stage tips. Then they shmooze some more for a whiiiiiiiilee... then finally start selling rooms. Even in the best case scenario they usually don't spend less than 15 minutes before selling a dance or rooms, and normally longer than that to hustle a guy into spending. It's only towards the end of the night that *sometimes* the fast hustle works, but even then not as fast as most places that late into the night.


    So there is plenty of money here. These very patient girls are making it. But I do not have the patience for this shit!!!!! I am also not into jumping on guys as soon as they came in and sweet talking them for half an hour or whatever... How do you girls do it? I can't stand these customers for that long, holy shit.

    There is definitely some prostitution here, but I think it is mostly that these girls are aggressive hustlers and extremely patient.

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    Default Re: How do you have patience for very slow hustles??

    My first dive-y club was like this. In such an environment, I think 15 minutes is a pretty reasonable timeframe, but the looonger hustles should still be reserved for known big spenders/regulars that will definitely pony-up later. I think anything more than that for 1 dance is a waste of time and too damn draining. You can get a lot of flirting in for 10-15 minutes if you have some stock conversations memorized (Hustle Hut and identifying different types of customers Dancerwealth color-system style would be good for that). But don't waste your time doing the over-the-top long-term hustle if you can't stomach it. You'll burn out even more, and the hustle probably won't go far if you can't stand to seem interested for that long.

    Try to focus on spotting the out-of-towners/traveling guys, the people who don't come in all the time or are NOT obviously townies and regulars (who may already have a fav dancer anyway). Otherwise, make a lap every once in awhile, doing what you can, then take a break if there's no success and no new customers yet and try again later.

    This isn't great or popular advice for a big club, but in the smaller/slower club environment, it's good to identify some club regular who never buys dances, but is otherwise a pretty decent, quiet, stage watcher. They're not good for much, but they can be good to have somewhere to sit when you're waiting for fresh customers instead of being at the bar by yourself looking undesirable/possibly getting in trouble with management if they get mad about that.** Guys like that will often just let you chill out and not even bother you for much conversation. You can lean back, looking chill and like you're enjoying the stage show with him, while taking the break to nonchalantly scope out the rest of the room. Then get up and leave as you see fit for a possible opportunity.

    **If management doesn't care if you sit at the bar, you can do the same on your own at the bar - pretend to relax and watch the stage show while scoping out the room. This leaves you open to someone to come up to you if they like your look and makes you look like the hot, bisexual stripper who enjoys watching the other naked girls on stage... When people say "don't sit at the bar by yourself cuz it makes you look undesirable" I think they mean more about facing the bar, hunching over, and closing themselves off to the room. If you use it as an opportunity to still look engaged, but chill, it can keep you open to interaction in a chiller club.

    I would rather focus on the things you can do to make the slower club work around your energy-levels than to try to give tips on how to completely change your hustle to something that doesn't suit your mindset. Sometimes it's better to do what you can to make the situation work for YOU, even if you feel like you're not gaining the same ground as the other dancers, than to try to completely adjust to your environment if it will make you miserable. Because we all know, once you're BURNT out, you won't make any money if you aren't going to work at all... If you truly can't make money unless you do those things you hate, it might be better to find a different club or traveling.
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    Default Re: How do you have patience for very slow hustles??

    Nah. About 10 min. on a slow night is what they get. Any more, and I just ask for some tipping " because I'm cute " or " for luck " or " just for some conversation ". I feel better about sitting and chatting if they offer a bit at least. I am not one to hide in the DR but I will in the rare instance that there are no buyers. I'd rather go hide 10-15 minutes and wait for some new people to walk in .

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    Default Re: How do you have patience for very slow hustles??

    ^Well sorry to say, but a 10 minute hustle here is not going to cut it at this club. But some of these slow hustling girls do make a lot. I'm talking in the realm of $1000+ during the week not just the weekends. Some of them make it all off regulars, but not all of the girls depend purely on regulars. It seems even the out of townies expect a slow slow hustle almost always. It just kills me though. It is rooms or nothing here.

    That isn't to say a 10 minute or shorter hustle *never* works here. But it has not worked for me very often here, and I do not see other girls pulling it off often.

    These guys here are weird too. I am not used to being rejected in favor of say some skinny chick with no ass/tits/hips or skinny fat girls. Being somewhat blonde stripper barbie looking, this is the first place I ever worked that every fucking day is a real struggle like even when I do make decent money. I'm usually in demand at least some of the time in most places I've ever danced, but here I haven't really seen any girls in high demand. These customers are really fucking passive. You can convince them to spend if you try, but they definitely come in with zero intention of spending it feels like.
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    Default Re: How do you have patience for very slow hustles??

    My fast hustle was sorta legit but a great excuse to get them to come back to VIP with me. I'd say that I hated stage dancing bc it took time away from my vip availability & that I was about to clock out for the night if they felt like they wanted to wait a bit. Worked 80% of the time lol. Sometimes I'd even say something like oh but I'm just too shy for stage, I do better one on one, which wasn't totally a lie I would chill with them for maybe 10 mins & that was pushing it.

    The whole GFE thing works too to get them back there to loosen them up, teasing them, lightly touching their shoulder winking at them, etc.
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    Default Re: How do you have patience for very slow hustles??

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    ^Well sorry to say, but a 10 minute hustle here is not going to cut it at this club. But some of these slow hustling girls do make a lot. I'm talking in the realm of $1000+ during the week not just the weekends. Some of them make it all off regulars, but not all of the girls depend purely on regulars. It seems even the out of townies expect a slow slow hustle almost always. It just kills me though. It is rooms or nothing here.

    That isn't to say a 10 minute or shorter hustle *never* works here. But it has not worked for me very often here, and I do not see other girls pulling it off often.

    These guys here are weird too. I am not used to being rejected in favor of say some skinny chick with no ass/tits/hips or skinny fat girls. Being somewhat blonde stripper barbie looking, this is the first place I ever worked that every fucking day is a real struggle like even when I do make decent money. I'm usually in demand at least some of the time in most places I've ever danced, but here I haven't really seen any girls in high demand. These customers are really fucking passive. You can convince them to spend if you try, but they definitely come in with zero intention of spending it feels like.
    if you know what it takes, just do it. trust me, your burnout will disappear real fast when you make that kind of money.

    I went through a phase like that too, where I wanted immediate results and my money suffered so I was burned out. soft, slow hustle always works. and slow money is better than no money!

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    Default Re: How do you have patience for very slow hustles??

    Yes! Especially if it's either slow hustle or no money at all.

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    Default Re: How do you have patience for very slow hustles??

    If you don't have patience for this shit, switch to chaturbate. You are own boss there. And don't need patience anymore

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