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    *sorry for reposting I want it in this section*

    There is this girl at my club, she has 2 or 3 guys wrapped around her finger. He will take her to vip, pay her to sit and be arm candy, go sit and tip her EVERY stage set, go do some regular dances EXACTLY IN THIS ORDER. I will see her work the floor getting regular dances what not, and when she isn’t selling go back to this dude who has been sitting alone waiting for her and turning down every dancer, hold out her arms for a big hug then go back to vip!! That’s her whole night! What spell is this girl doing lol. I want to ask but she’s always with him!!
    My “regulars” are just guys who I recognize and will take me back for 2 or 3 dances or a single vip. Which is totally fine I’m grateful for the money but damn this girl got em whipped.
    Anyone been in this situation? How did it begin? How did you hypnotize him? It always seemed to me to be exhausting having to be with one guy all night but these guys are pouring money out just for her to sit silently with her hand on his thigh lmao! Btw my club is very clean and cameras and nosey bouncers everywhere no way she is doing extras unless it’s otc

    Btw I know there’s tons of old threads for how to secure regulars, I just figure I’ll start a fresh one we can discuss




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    Quote Originally Posted by IvoryDoll View Post
    Anyone been in this situation? How did it begin?
    Yes I am definitely a customer who is usually super loyal to one dancer and stick with them for months to years. Whenever a favorite dancer of mine does quit it can take a few months of looking before I find someone I really like enough to latch on to.

    Let's say you and I met today for the first time at the club. Your mindset is on getting me to buy a dance and ultimately how to make money today. For me I am thinking about whether you and I are a good match for the long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulDrake View Post
    Yes I am definitely a customer who is usually super loyal to one dancer and stick with them for months to years. Whenever a favorite dancer of mine does quit it can take a few months of looking before I find someone I really like enough to latch on to.

    Let's say you and I met today for the first time at the club. Your mindset is on getting me to buy a dance and ultimately how to make money today. For me I am thinking about whether you and I are a good match for the long term.
    I will make a great connection with a guy and he will spend great money and ask for my schedule, say they will come back for me such and such day at such and such time but they never come through. Only bump into some regulars when they happen to be in, they aren’t coming in just for me. What should I focus on instead of just making sales?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvoryDoll View Post
    I will make a great connection with a guy and he will spend great money and ask for my schedule, say they will come back for me such and such day at such and such time but they never come through. Only bump into some regulars when they happen to be in, they aren’t coming in just for me. What should I focus on instead of just making sales?
    Let me think about it and I'll get back to you.

    I would add that you really have no idea how much this girl is getting from this guy. Two different dancers I would see long term would ask me to do things to intentionally make it look like they were getting paid more than reality. For example one girl always wanted me to pay her our normal amount in small doses when she was on stage so it looked like she was always getting giant stage tips. And it made me look like a bigger spender than I am.

    One dancer I saw for a year would tell guys that she would hang out with them for "pretty much her whole shift" for $200 with free lap dances at the end. That would end up being 3-5 hours and she could get 1-2 guys to show up on a lot of days for that deal. It was a stable reliable $300-500 a day with zero hopping from lap to lap.

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    So I saw this video today that reminded me of this thread: "Managing Client Relationships as an Investment Banker, Lawyer or Consultant"



    - One of the things the video hits on which I think is applicable to what we are discussing is to intentionally try to grow the relationship outside of what it is supposed to be. So if you're a lawyer try to be the person your client would think to ask for investing/medical or other unrelated life advice. I know for me in the strip club the few dancers who I have known long term the relationship was a mix of stripper/customer, sugar baby, and friends.

    - On that same note - These type of customers are absolutely worth it to occasionally meet outside of the club. Even just a "The club is dead want to leave and buy me waffles" will buy a million customer loyalty points. I would recommend in these situations just to be 100% clear about your intent. You can just say "hey fyi this is JUST going for waffles as friends". And obviously you need to balance that with setting expectations for whatever level of physical relationship you are ok with.

    - An example challenge question I can give you: How many customers do you feel comfortable talking about your real life spouse/bf/gf with? With this type of long term customer talking about deep personal stuff is part of the relationship. I knew this one stripper for a year and around when she was quitting she said that in her 5 years of stripping she never once had another customer ask about her girlfriend. At the time I found that massively surprising, even unbelievable. But most stripper-customer relationships I guess don't have much depth?

    - As mentioned in your other thread I would agree that keeping in touch by occasional text is important. I personally try to keep that to a minimum but I can see how it could be a lot of work. However if you have a relationship like this that is a really good one it's partially friends anyway so part of it is doing it just because you want to.

    - Stella Rose from here on stripperweb told me that she asks customers who previously were a regular with another girl what their relationship was like with that girl. I think that is totally brilliant advice. A guy who is ranting and bashing his previous favorite girl will probably be the same with you. Someone who is talking freely about whatever extras he got will do the same to you. But in the rare cases you can find someone who's previous fave quit and he has nothing to say but good things is a potential gold mine. As a side note this question works really well in reverse. I will ask dancers about whether they are good/bad at keeping regs, whether their previous regs were good, and even just asking "what can I do to piss you off" is a really valuable question.

    - A dancer who wouldn't be a good fit for me would be:
    Part of this type of relationship is that there is a give and take for both parties. Yes some nights you might lose out on a few bucks because you're stuck with me. But keeping me happy means you will never walk out with less than $200 ever again (assuming you work 1-3 shifts a week). And if you're in a bad mood, sick, or unable to work for whatever reason you still have a source of income. One previous fav of mine had surgery and we met up for lunch afterwards and I gave her a small cash advance to help out until she could work again. And I have had another previous fav who after quitting needed cash and I bought some sexy pics. But.... I can totally understand and relate that for some dancers like the one in that thread that I am not what they're looking for...

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    PaulDrake made a very good post. Also, I think something else that is important is to be very consistent. Decide what your optimal schedule is and stick with it, at one club, every single week like clockwork. If you are habitual, then you will very much appeal to customers who are habitual. (The loyal ones)

    ...Which is very much a do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do kind of thing. I’m not that way at all lol.

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    Ivory, unfortunately this thread became too much about what one club regular thinks a girl should do, sprinkled in with civilian industry sales tips, and not enough about what the girls themselves actually do to keep L/T regulars.

    My simple suggestion is to watch her in action and maybe even ask her. Then watch the next best earner in the club and see how she does it. You're not going to learn how it's done from a couple of dudes on here - you're going to learn from the girls who are actually successful with this in the trenches.

    Good luck!

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    ^And rickdugan is displaying his own axe to grind with PaulDrake rather than responding to the thread...

    1. The question was explicitly asking for cultivating loyal regulars. Not how to be a top earner.
    2. She also posted this same question on the dancer only side. She *wanted* male input and he’s the only one who responded to her topic, on topic.

    Anyways @Ivy, in my experience, I would agree the kind of customer who visits like clockwork likely isn’t going to be a baller at any one time. It’s up to you to decide whether that trade off is worth it. Maybe you could cultivate a higher spender to visit you once every 1-3 months realistically. Or that guy who absolutely falls head over heels with you. But that is going to be a very intense churn and burn where he gives you a lot in a short amount of time, and then doesn’t come back in ever.

    I know you wanted a fresh start with threads, but I thought the posts from arielbriel and kase on this thread was very good.
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    ^ Stella, I have no issue with Paul and I didn't see her post on the other side for the obvious reason. I was simply pointing out that what Paul, I and other guys believe are great ideas for selling us may actually be horrible ideas with low ROI from a dancer standpoiint, so she should take it with a grain of salt. I'm sure the other dancers gave her some good advice, but of course every club and customer base in every region is different, so it's hard even for other dancers to tailor super specific advice.

    Her very best mentors are the earners sitting right in her own club doing it with the exact same group of customers that she is dealing with. My suggestion is that she throw on her outfit and heels and work some extra shifts, with one of her primary goals being to learn how they do it. It would be a much more productive for her than polling guys who will inevitably say things like "see me OTC; sit with me for a long time for short money because it's guaranteed; keep in touch with me by text; etc."

    Anyway, just my fwiw.

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    Not a dancer obviously, but just as important as what you do, but also being able to identify guys who are looking to be a one girl regular. Chances are if they're specifically asking and looking for you, and trying to get to know you, you're on the right track. Of course nothing's guaranteed, but if these types are spending money it couldn't hurt to give them a little extra attention.

    Like rick above just my 0.02 and good luck.

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    I have 2 loyal regulars - while I don't just 'sit silently' with them, they are still very low maintenance. If I text them that I am working, they will almost always come in if they're available. No communication OTC otherwise. I have had one of them for 3.5 years and the other for 2 years. That's pretty damn loyal.

    The one will make an appointment basically for a specific time, wave away other girls, go directly to VIP with me and then leave after. The other has a few girls who will come sit with us if they're working (because he likes to buy drinks and make sure everyone is having fun), and he will sometimes get dances from them, but he ALWAYS tips me the same amount to just hang out with him regardless.

    I wish I could tell you there's a secret to acquiring such regulars but there isn't. Mine are both single and over 50, so that's kind of their reason for seeking companionship in a strip club. That's probably the best demographic for finding super loyal customers.
    Lots of guys will blow smoke up your ass and exchange #s, promise to come in, etc. I think as soon as they leave the club and take a cold shower, they go "Holy shit I can't keep spending $$ like that!" or some such thought. It's nothing you did wrong. It's a lot of luck finding guys with that much disposable income that they can regularly give hundreds out for a few hours of entertainment AND that are not looking for sex or a relationship in return.
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    I find that loyal customers are made by being honest. I focus hard on the human connection. If you are missing that, you'll be hard pressed, to find a regular customer. Show interest in their lives. Try and talk about things they will find interesting. Ie. If they have on a cowboy hat. Talk about the newest hot country song. If they look like a more biker personality. Talk about motorcycles. If they are wearing a shirt that is definitely urban. Talk about the works of Tupac. Ect ect ect.
    Never forget to make hand to face or chest contact when possible. People love the more personal touch factor. I find this works best with men. However it is also a great ice breaker for women.
    The most overlooked place to find regular customers is in couples. Couple's generally already know what they are looking for. And more often than not the other girls in the club are staying away from them like the plague. Once you get a regular couple. Then you will watch your profits soar. The other customers see you sitting with the couple. They already think you like threesomes. Who are we to tell them if they are right or wrong?
    In closing. Sell the fantasy the customers came in for. Be personable. Don't forget to keep the physical touch principle. If you use all the weapons in this arsenal. You will get regular customers regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    I have 2 loyal regulars - while I don't just 'sit silently' with them, they are still very low maintenance. If I text them that I am working, they will almost always come in if they're available. No communication OTC otherwise. I have had one of them for 3.5 years and the other for 2 years. That's pretty damn loyal.

    The one will make an appointment basically for a specific time, wave away other girls, go directly to VIP with me and then leave after. The other has a few girls who will come sit with us if they're working (because he likes to buy drinks and make sure everyone is having fun), and he will sometimes get dances from them, but he ALWAYS tips me the same amount to just hang out with him regardless.

    I wish I could tell you there's a secret to acquiring such regulars but there isn't. Mine are both single and over 50, so that's kind of their reason for seeking companionship in a strip club. That's probably the best demographic for finding super loyal customers.
    Lots of guys will blow smoke up your ass and exchange #s, promise to come in, etc. I think as soon as they leave the club and take a cold shower, they go "Holy shit I can't keep spending $$ like that!" or some such thought. It's nothing you did wrong. It's a lot of luck finding guys with that much disposable income that they can regularly give hundreds out for a few hours of entertainment AND that are not looking for sex or a relationship in return.
    Oh, you're so lucky. I wish I had a regular or two that spend generously on me and not wanting anything in return. I just get the ones that are smitten by me and get worse as the weeks and months goes by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulDrake View Post
    Let me think about it and I'll get back to you.

    I would add that you really have no idea how much this girl is getting from this guy. Two different dancers I would see long term would ask me to do things to intentionally make it look like they were getting paid more than reality. For example one girl always wanted me to pay her our normal amount in small doses when she was on stage so it looked like she was always getting giant stage tips. And it made me look like a bigger spender than I am.

    One dancer I saw for a year would tell guys that she would hang out with them for "pretty much her whole shift" for $200 with free lap dances at the end. That would end up being 3-5 hours and she could get 1-2 guys to show up on a lot of days for that deal. It was a stable reliable $300-500 a day with zero hopping from lap to lap.
    $200 for her whole shift? That’s nuts considering it’s only about 7 dances or a 15 minute vip . I’m a regular with one girl and I bring her something almost every time and most times get dances. But as soon as I’m out of cash and I do have to be smart about it since I work at a grocery store I’m no longer useful to her for the night and she disappears. We have good chemistry as far as a business relationship goes. I always tell her if she can go get a house dance before I want dances do it. If she is getting an hr room before I’m coming in let me know and I’ll stay home (she’ll make more then I can give and I’m not gonna wait all night to see her.) she’s texted me before and then said o wait they cancelled it so come back which I did. She generally knows when I’m coming in so I can get in and get out quickly and let her make her money. I guess it depends on just building a serious connection with them. But I know it’s only business in nature and I even had that conversation with her.

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    For a lot of my dancing career, I had several big spenders I could count on for income, many who would spend in the four digits each visit. It came to the point, when I was working at a particular champagne room club, that I would only come into work if I had a regular scheduled to come see me.

    I had two best friends from high school who danced with me, who never got any big spending regulars, or any regulars at all. I thought it was odd. I think they, too, wondered why I so easily got regulars and they didn't. One of them just was a terrible stripper, but the other made decent money yet never acquired regulars.

    I suppose you have to make sure you're a good conversationalist, but let them lead the conversation. They are spending their money and deserve quality time, including having someone listen to them if they need to vent about work or married life. You also want to share some of your life with them. Not too much, unless you don't care about your person info, but let them get an idea of who you are. Share interesting things about your life that make you stand out, of course be selective with what you share and keep it flattering. If he asks, tell him about your goals. Also, express your gratitude towards them. Big spending regulars are not just giving you their money, but their time as well. Both could be spent on any girl there or at another club. They like to be recognized for this. Also, never be boring. A lot of regulars come to see you because some aspect of their life is generally boring them, and you're one of the things that excites him.

    And, let guys know you are open to having them come see you regularly. A lot of girls with a regulars-based clientele will carry a stripper phone or have Google Voice on their phone, so they may exchange phone numbers with clients and remain anonymous. Other girls just keep a tight schedule so they are able to tell their regulars exactly when they come back. Either way, when a guy spends a large amount of money on you, make sure you tell him you'd LOVE to see him again, and use whatever communication method you prefer to get his ass to come back and keep coming back.
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    To make loyal regulars, you have to make them feel you belong to them, give’m what they want (you know what if they’re regulars). Then they will come back to you time after time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nina_ View Post
    Also, express your gratitude towards them. Big spending regulars are not just giving you their money, but their time as well. Both could be spent on any girl there or at another club. They like to be recognized for this.
    Those are really good insights! I would agree 1000%.

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    Some good stuff here. People vary greatly, but the common element seems to be recognizing the type of regular for you, and putting a little more energy into the relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulDrake View Post
    Let me think about it and I'll get back to you.

    I would add that you really have no idea how much this girl is getting from this guy. Two different dancers I would see long term would ask me to do things to intentionally make it look like they were getting paid more than reality. For example one girl always wanted me to pay her our normal amount in small doses when she was on stage so it looked like she was always getting giant stage tips. And it made me look like a bigger spender than I am.
    I think you're on to something with this. Did you feel happy to be a part of her plot and helping her out?

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