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    Angry Are bouncers mostly useless?

    Ok I realize the title may be controversial since obviously it is very important to have bouncers at strip clubs. I'm not questioning the importance of having someone step in to throw out dangerous/shitty customers, tell people to put phones away etc. What I'm referring to is the fact that it seems the vast majority of them do NOT do their job, and I'm wondering if it's just me or if other women are noticing this at their clubs as well.

    I've been dancing since 2014 and have worked in various cities all across the USA. During that entire time, I've had ONE bouncer come up to a customer who was grabbing my butt on the floor and tell him not to do that unless he was paying. Outside of that, every single time I've had a bouncer do anything at all (which usually still isn't much) it's been because I had to go over and ask him to do something about a misbehaving guy. And I should clarify - I ALWAYS tip out bouncers and tend to tip generously compared to other girls so I know it's not because they think I'm cheap or anything like that. Usually tipping them out well results in them trying to find me spending customers (which I am better at than them anyways) but not so much results in them stepping in when I need them.

    It just seems like it's always the dancers who have to tell customers tipping at the stage is mandatory, you can't have your phone out at the stage, you can't grab our vaginas etc....even in clubs with monitored cameras!! I have noticed that bouncers love to correct dancers who are breaking the rules, though. But only a small handful of times have I actually seen a bouncer intervene when he was needed. Hell, I once had a guy BLATANTLY take a picture of my stage set, the club was empty as hell and there's no way the staff did not see. I had to actually walk off stage bare naked and snatch his damn phone since no one else did anything. With how often I see guys using their phones at stage sets (at ALL clubs I've been to) there's no doubt in my mind that dancers are involuntarily recorded on a very regular basis. Which leads me to wonder....why exactly are we tipping these guys again? 9/10 times they don't seem to be doing anything. And when I say 9 out of 10 times, I'd say that's pretty accurate as to how often I see them step in when a customer is breaking the rules with a girl, whether it be me or someone else.

    Anyways I just wish there was something we could do, it seems the injustice towards dancers is getting really out of hand and it is not just confined to certain clubs. Universally dancers are disrespected and treated like shit and it makes my blood boil. I'm very curious if other girls have noticed these trends as well or if maybe I am picking weird clubs or what.

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    Default Re: Are bouncers mostly useless?

    I know what you mean..
    I mean I haven't danced in a while, but back when I did, I noticed pretty much all the things you mentioned!
    I find a few of 'em were good, but mostly all of them were as you say.


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    Yes 100% this! I've even been like "Hey that guy needs to go" for shit like STEALING MONEY and TRYING TO STICK HIS FINGERS IN OUR ASSHOLES WHILE WE WERE ON THE STAGE, and the bouncer was like ":/ Bro you gonna settle down right? Good?" NO NOT GOOD. And I've been yelled at for "being confrontational" when "a bouncer or management should have handled it" Okay so handle it then??? I'm not saying all bouncers are bad or that I want zero protection, but I have to wonder if they're lowkey told by management they're supposed to be keeping US "inline" instead of the customers or some shit.

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    Default Re: Are bouncers mostly useless?

    I know of one club they do.

    And also, in the very first club I ever worked at. I was grateful to have started out in an environment where bouncers were on top of things. I never had to tell the customers anything myself, because they handled it all for me. Little did I know at the time, that wasn’t a thing everywhere. It’s what has made me considered trying out a few shifts there again despite there being some shootings in the last year, bullshit small club dancer drama, and frankly easier money in other clubs in that city. (I guess customers like being in clubs where they don’t get reprimanded)

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    Default Re: Are bouncers mostly useless?

    ( just at my current place )

    They are somewhat helpful . They could be A LOT more on top of it with phone use in the club.

    There was a guy last time who was being insulting ( to me and another mellow girl ). We are low key and easy to deal with.
    They immediately took our word for it and led him swiftly OUT . That was nice. One of the times it did seem very useful to have them there.

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    Default Re: Are bouncers mostly useless?

    I worked with mostly helpful bouncers who made me feel safe. I was outraged working with bad ones.
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    Default Re: Are bouncers mostly useless?

    Too many work there because they think they'll get a stripper girlfriend. ;-;

    And when you won't be their stripper girlfriend they will love to reprimand you on anything and everything they can think off even though it's mostly bs. And of course they always become bff's with management so don't even bother trying to do or say anything to anyone.

    **hides in the background**

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    Yes, at my club they barely reprimand the guys for touching during dances. I mean I have to literally wave them over to get them to tell a guy to stop grabbing my ass during a $20 dance. They also never notice the guys taking pictures/videos unless one of the dancers points them out. Most of the time they are walking around talking to the dancers, dancing, or standing there uselessly.

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    Whenever I get to a new club I get cool with a few of the bouncers/ security. They’re important for safety reasons and can help put you on to things going on in the club or big spenders. I don’t get so friendly it will lead to drama (they’re always dating or hooking up with girls in the club) but for the most part I’ve had good experiences with bouncers. I have noticed that they look out for you more if they know you. Its unfair and they should keep an eye on everyone but strip club politics.


    * I never tip them

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    Default Re: Are bouncers mostly useless?

    Out of all the clubs I've spent any length of time at:

    1) Useless as fuck except to charge you for twice as many VIP songs as you did

    2) Actually useful but hella overaggressive (someone eventually got killed in a fight) and expected more than they earned. I rarely needed them for anything beyond being walked out and they would actively complain that they "only" got tipped $5 for that 30 seconds of work. Eventually I started dipping out the kitchen door so they wouldn't walk me out.
    We did have a manager who liked to jump into brawls and do bouncer duties just to feel like Billy Badass, but was useless in actual disputes. He once let a guy get away with ripping me off for $200.

    3) Useless.

    4) Useless except for one guy. If I had trouble, I'd go to him and always make a point to tip him extra (and make sure the others saw it). The others didn't give two shits because they were low-key misogynistic jerks and knew they were getting our mandatory $20 tipout regardless.

    One was especially awful; I pointed out a girl that was breaking rules right in front of his face and he shrugged. He would gaslight the rest of us about the resident extras girl "No she's just really good at sales, you all just like to talk shit, you're crazy, you've never seen her do anything illegal".

    There was another who was just a complete ass about rules as far as time - I'd try to sell a half hour at 1:36, the guy would say "It's ok, short me the 6 minutes" and the bouncer would still argue about letting us go back. He cost me a LOT of $$ once because when I went on stage and left a customer waiting to go in VIP, he sold him on doing 2 half hours instead of the 45 minutes we had agreed on (we made $370/45 mins vs $185/half hour). The customer stayed back there multiple rounds... as you can imagine, it cost me a fair bit to go by the half hour

    5) Not sure yet.

    I think it's partly an entitlement issue. They know they get X minimum tipout even if they do jack shit all night. I think the notion that they were looking for a girlfriend or to fuck the girls is also partly correct sometimes.

    But I agree, I can count on one hand the number of times a bouncer has been helpful to me. I do not tip anyone over the minimum anymore, bouncers included. I got sick of being gouged by entitled DJs and bouncers at my last club and getting nothing in return. I don't care if they try to say "I'm NoT hElPiNg YoU tHeN"... y'all never helped me in the first place!
    "People jack off with the left hand and point with the right."

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