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    I currently live in Seattle and the house fees are high, there’s no booze, & just a whole lot of bs. So I want to go to Portland but trying to navigate through all the different reviews of clubs and seeing which ones are good for new girls and travel dancers is giving me a headache. Anyone have any insight?

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    Saaaammmme!! I have a friend who lives there and goes back and forth to Cali. Shesays Portland is garbage right now but I think the northern states are better in the summer

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    Portland IS garbage right now. I have lived and danced here for 4 years now. Quit recently because it's not even worth it. 50ish clubs, soooo many girls flooding in from Washington and California etc.

    Customer base is spread thin because there are so many clubs. Majority of customers are incredibly cheap. Vast majority are entitled asses who have no qualms about staring at the stage show without buying dances or tipping anyone a dime for hours, and clubs allow this behavior to continue. I couldn't stomach it anymore.

    Portland clubs is where people go to have their business meetings and lunch breaks and stare at the naked chicks for free, because that is what is accepted as tolerable behavior here. It's infuriating. The customers aren't paying and neither are the clubs. It's unacceptable and I refuse to take part any longer.

    Yeah there are some good nights but there were way too many days where I knew I would be making more $$ waitressing and with a fraction of the drama. Hell many days dancers go home with less than minimum wage. If you are incredibly hot and a stellar hustler, and I mean SOLID people skills and sales skills, it might be worth it for you. I just can't even anymore. Good luck, if you try it.

    So many clubs here are so tired of travel dancers they won't even get you on the schedule until the week or 2 after you audition. The ones that do are in it to collect your house fees and will schedule as many girls as possible in order to take YOUR money. They don't care if there are 30 girls and 7 customers. I am talking to YOU, Union Jack's and Casa Diablo.

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    Not saying there isn't money to be made here
    Just that it's too few and far between and like pulling teeth. It's like gambling basically and the house always wins.

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    ^So I am confused about these stage tipping comments- back when I lived in the Portland area, I'd go as a customer (this was before I ever danced). if I went to any club, people were enforced to tip if they sat at the stage. I've danced in a bazillion places other than Portland that people feel entitled to sit AT the stage and not tip anything whatsoever and this is perfectly ok behavior in most of the US. I also remember when I was in Portland that the DJs constantly reminded people to go tip the girls on stage... I know when I've went as a customer that even people not sitting at the stage would regularly go up and tip the stage. This was only a few years ago. Has it really changed that much in the last few years?

    Other than that one detail, it seems like everything you say is in line with everybody else's commentary and experiences.

    It's too bad that it sucks so bad to dance there. I sometimes daydream of moving back home although it is not the same place it used to be. Just going to hell in a handbasket, but most larger populated areas are. That is not unique to Portland. I think the cost of living out there and the amount of infuriating traffic is just too much to be ok with bullshit money though. So I get why girls would quit dancing there if it is so bad or only do it on the side of something better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by random stripper View Post
    ^So I am confused about these stage tipping comments- back when I lived in the Portland area, I'd go as a customer (this was before I ever danced). if I went to any club, people were enforced to tip if they sat at the stage. I've danced in a bazillion places other than Portland that people feel entitled to sit AT the stage and not tip anything whatsoever and this is perfectly ok behavior in most of the US. I also remember when I was in Portland that the DJs constantly reminded people to go tip the girls on stage... I know when I've went as a customer that even people not sitting at the stage would regularly go up and tip the stage. This was only a few years ago. Has it really changed that much in the last few years?

    Other than that one detail, it seems like everything you say is in line with everybody else's commentary and experiences.

    It's too bad that it sucks so bad to dance there. I sometimes daydream of moving back home although it is not the same place it used to be. Just going to hell in a handbasket, but most larger populated areas are. That is not unique to Portland. I think the cost of living out there and the amount of infuriating traffic is just too much to be ok with bullshit money though. So I get why girls would quit dancing there if it is so bad or only do it on the side of something better.
    It's that there will be 20 people at the bar or sitting at the tables nearest the rack but technically not AT the rack. They think they're being slick by watching and not sitting at the rack so they don't have to pay. I am not saying no one tips ever. But the proportion of people who use the setup to get a free show is astounding and disgusting.

    I should not have to dance for a bar full of people, like 15-30, and have only one person drop off a dollar or two or sometimes none at all. And I assure you it's not the looks or stage presence; I watch them do this to every dancer on shift.

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    I guess I am coming from the perspective of, my first dancing job was a peep show, the Lusty Lady in Seattle (yeah I am dating myself, they closed years ago). We got payed by the hour to dance. Not at ton, but there were no sales, and no touching. Just dancing sexy behind glass. I feel like the stage show is WORK, and people should be payed for their work. Some will argue it's just advertisement for the lap dance, but my passion was always pole and the stage, so it makes me sad I can no longer get payed for that work. I used to put a lot into my stage sets until I realized I was blowing my energy working for free. It doesn't have to be this way, but sadly it is... and I have only seen it get worse instead of better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrienne7 View Post
    It's that there will be 20 people at the bar or sitting at the tables nearest the rack but technically not AT the rack. They think they're being slick by watching and not sitting at the rack so they don't have to pay. I am not saying no one tips ever. But the proportion of people who use the setup to get a free show is astounding and disgusting.

    I should not have to dance for a bar full of people, like 15-30, and have only one person drop off a dollar or two or sometimes none at all. And I assure you it's not the looks or stage presence; I watch them do this to every dancer on shift.
    Oh I wasn't gonna go the looks/can't dance route. I see this fucking bullshit all the time in the midwest as well where you have like 20 fucking customers in the room and not 1 is tipping any of the girls even $1! (at 1 specific club off the top of my head)

    Ok thank you for clarifying. This would piss me off too. I might also not remember everything from my customer days there because I was always drunk at the clubs. I did tip the stage though and I seem to recall stage tipping was common, but maybe it has gotten worse and now they act like dudes everywhere else. Lame!

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    Oh I know you weren't going the looks route. Nothing personal, I am just used to people making unkind assumptions and being fairly, umm... "abrupt" while hiding behind the keyboard. Not you, just the unkind interwebz in general. I'm used to being on the defense haha. Even when it's not yet warented. Yah I guess you could say I am too jaded to be dancing anymore.

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