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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    This is why I hate when they refer to being an IC as 'owning a business'. It opens you up to stuff like this. Are you able to call and explain it? Or maybe send a written explanation?

    That is ridiculous they want 3 years of returns. Sounds like they're hoping people don't have their shit together and they can avoid paying them. I only had to provide 2019 returns.
    Yes I agree and I don't "own a business" other than working as a dancer. I don't think I'm able to call and explain it because the line is still impossible to even get a dial tone but I did mail in my response to the letter. I also applied for emergency cash assistance from the government and actually got $300 off my rent which they sent directly to my building's management office and I got food stamps which is around $200 per month.

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    So my club is re opening on Tuesday. I’m waiting for more info on how they will be doing things but i just got my unemployment last week. I’m not confident I even want to risk going back quite yet or what it will be like.
    I did put on my unemployment application my clubs name so if it re opens will they automatically assume I am back to work and cut my unemployment? Would it be better if I notified them that I went back and am only making x amount (even if I didn’t go back) so my benefits will continue until my club is back at full speed. If it ever is...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danni View Post
    So my club is re opening on Tuesday. I’m waiting for more info on how they will be doing things but i just got my unemployment last week. I’m not confident I even want to risk going back quite yet or what it will be like.
    I did put on my unemployment application my clubs name so if it re opens will they automatically assume I am back to work and cut my unemployment? Would it be better if I notified them that I went back and am only making x amount (even if I didn’t go back) so my benefits will continue until my club is back at full speed. If it ever is...
    If you want to continue collecting UI , don’t go. You don’t need to tell them anything. If you don’t, go, you most likely will
    Make more than $520 (Ny UI benefits) and therefore they won’t give you anything.

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    You have an advantage here in being an IC and not a scheduled employee. The club isn't going to call you back, ergo you have not 'refused work'. I would absolutely not go in and not say fuck all to UI. I doubt they have time to check up on what business reopened when, short of an employer actually notifying them that a specific person refused to come back.
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    Yesss im sure a lot of us are wondering this ^^^ so update us when you can please <3 @Danni
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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaLang25 View Post
    Also wanted to state that I applied for food stamps and those were approved and expedited too. In Georgia I think everyone can get them now. I got $355 a month. As “sex workers” lol I feel like if you paid your taxes you should get all the benefits that come with that. Good luck ladies.
    I got approved for food stamps then unemployment finally came through about 2 months later, can we still continue to get the food stamps even though we get unemployment? My state said if i make over 1800 per month i dont qualify for the stamps so does unemployment count or not? im in illinois btw, my unemployment just came through last week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danni View Post
    So my club is re opening on Tuesday. I’m waiting for more info on how they will be doing things but i just got my unemployment last week. I’m not confident I even want to risk going back quite yet or what it will be like.
    I did put on my unemployment application my clubs name so if it re opens will they automatically assume I am back to work and cut my unemployment? Would it be better if I notified them that I went back and am only making x amount (even if I didn’t go back) so my benefits will continue until my club is back at full speed. If it ever is...
    I did the same thing, and was wondering the same thing, my club is re opening friday on the patio only, I already know theres no $$ to be made, how can we socially distance n make any $$!? Plus it super risky, and theres only allowed so many ppl in the place at a time, used to have like 250ish per night now the most till theres a vaccine is 50... thats not suitable employment, it will be impossible to make what we used to, so I feel we can answer all the questions honestly when you certify for benefits each week, to get benefits our industry will not be the same or suitable until there is a cure or vaccine.

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    Random hypothetical type thought: I wonder what the government thinks as far as how much we are obligated to go back to work given that we don't get paid wages and it's a crapshoot to go in. Like, would they literally expect you to try to go in 5 nights a week and only then could you say you weren't making enough money?

    One of my clubs opened up and nobody wants to come to work. They had 3 girls at 9 pm on Sunday (before Memorial Day, so party night normally). The DJs & managers were super salty about it. Like no shit, you're only operating at 25% capacity, you're still charging full house fees & tipout, I know y'all aren't gonna kick out non-spenders to make room for guys with money, and you're not making customers or girls wear masks. They're still letting rooms operate, so it's like your choice is make ok money and probably catch the virus, or make peanuts killing yourself on stage. Why on earth would we rush to go in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlluringDancer View Post
    Yes I agree and I don't "own a business" other than working as a dancer. I don't think I'm able to call and explain it because the line is still impossible to even get a dial tone but I did mail in my response to the letter. I also applied for emergency cash assistance from the government and actually got $300 off my rent which they sent directly to my building's management office and I got food stamps which is around $200 per month.
    So, had you been getting unemployment all the way up and until they sent this letter and didnt pay you? Like this came out of nowhere and u didnt earn other income? It does sound like they dont want to pay people, this doesnt make any since if you dont make other money anywhere else? Then you cant get through I already know on the phone cause you cant in illinois either and NY is way worse im sure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    Random hypothetical type thought: I wonder what the government thinks as far as how much we are obligated to go back to work given that we don't get paid wages and it's a crapshoot to go in. Like, would they literally expect you to try to go in 5 nights a week and only then could you say you weren't making enough money?

    One of my clubs opened up and nobody wants to come to work. They had 3 girls at 9 pm on Sunday (before Memorial Day, so party night normally). The DJs & managers were super salty about it. Like no shit, you're only operating at 25% capacity, you're still charging full house fees & tipout, I know y'all aren't gonna kick out non-spenders to make room for guys with money, and you're not making customers or girls wear masks. They're still letting rooms operate, so it's like your choice is make ok money and probably catch the virus, or make peanuts killing yourself on stage. Why on earth would we rush to go in?
    Not surprised. This shows how much those places really care about their staff. They are only looking out for themselves...so you have to look out for yourself in life. If the money isn’t there, why would you go? Also if you catch the virus...there’s a solid 2 weeks of work you will miss anyway(if you don’t drop dead!) Time for plan B. Maybe this will come back, but now is not the time. You would actually be better off escorting if your a risk-taker who doesn’t care about catching the virus. Or of course webcam/phone sex/onlyfans/virtual stripclub if you’re like me and take your health seriously. All of those options would be more profitable than dancing right now. And if you can get unemployment, do it! And don’t feel bad about it, fuck those clubs. They won’t call you back to work bc most of them barely know or care about the girls who work for them, so collect that check and let them sit there with no girls, send a message to them that they should appreciate you and protect you. I’d rather make 1k a week guaranteed than risk my health for bullshit money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasmine22 View Post
    Not surprised. This shows how much those places really care about their staff. They are only looking out for themselves...so you have to look out for yourself in life. If the money isn’t there, why would you go? Also if you catch the virus...there’s a solid 2 weeks of work you will miss anyway(if you don’t drop dead!) Time for plan B. Maybe this will come back, but now is not the time. You would actually be better off escorting if your a risk-taker who doesn’t care about catching the virus. Or of course webcam/phone sex/onlyfans/virtual stripclub if you’re like me and take your health seriously. All of those options would be more profitable than dancing right now. And if you can get unemployment, do it! And don’t feel bad about it, fuck those clubs. They won’t call you back to work bc most of them barely know or care about the girls who work for them, so collect that check and let them sit there with no girls, send a message to them that they should appreciate you and protect you. I’d rather make 1k a week guaranteed than risk my health for bullshit money.
    Lol not sure if that was directed at me specifically but I am not going anywhere near the club nor do I need to. I had savings to begin with and now I get a nice fat unemployment check because I was an adult who paid my taxes. I don't feel a lick of guilt about it either.
    Side note, I hate that anyone WOULD feel guilty about it - why? Your employer paid into unemployment insurance. In-sur-ance. Do people feel bad about making Geico fix their rear-ended cars? No. Why feel bad about accepting unemployment checks? (I know we're ICs and don't count but you get what I'm saying)

    I agree that we have to watch out for ourselves first. These clubs have never cared about us for even one second, as much as there may be appearances of it sometimes. It's all bullshit. I don't give 2 fucks about the club's wants or needs and I hope many of the girls on here feel the same. The DJs are only whining because they make $9/hour and rely on tipout & the managers are whining because they get a portion of the house fees. Once again, the weight of keeping the club profitable falls pretty squarely on our shoulders and nobody cares if we might catch a virus getting up close and personal with customers. When a manager volunteers to not hide in his office and to let an unmasked stranger breathe directly on him for 15 minutes straight, then we'll chat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    Lol not sure if that was directed at me specifically but I am not going anywhere near the club nor do I need to. I had savings to begin with and now I get a nice fat unemployment check because I was an adult who paid my taxes. I don't feel a lick of guilt about it either.
    Side note, I hate that anyone WOULD feel guilty about it - why? Your employer paid into unemployment insurance. In-sur-ance. Do people feel bad about making Geico fix their rear-ended cars? No. Why feel bad about accepting unemployment checks? (I know we're ICs and don't count but you get what I'm saying)

    I agree that we have to watch out for ourselves first. These clubs have never cared about us for even one second, as much as there may be appearances of it sometimes. It's all bullshit. I don't give 2 fucks about the club's wants or needs and I hope many of the girls on here feel the same. The DJs are only whining because they make $9/hour and rely on tipout & the managers are whining because they get a portion of the house fees. Once again, the weight of keeping the club profitable falls pretty squarely on our shoulders and nobody cares if we might catch a virus getting up close and personal with customers. When a manager volunteers to not hide in his office and to let an unmasked stranger breathe directly on him for 15 minutes straight, then we'll chat.
    It wasn’t directed at you....it’s just pent up frustration with the whole situation. The biggest problem I had with the clubs is how the management treated everyone like they were disposable. I always felt like we should’ve been treated like “family”, bc it would’ve created a more positive environment for everyone. I saw how cold these places can be when I worked in Vegas. But there is a lot they can can do to keep you safe, it’s so frustrating to see that they don’t care to take those steps.
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    If your hours are cut, wouldn't you still be eligible for unemployment? >__> Where i was working, if you are employed but making under a certain amount , you are still eligible.

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    Yea, I read if you make under your weekly unemployment amount your still eligible but if you make more your not, you will be eligible for less if you made any money that week however than your normal weekly payment

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    Well I heard from my state that they at least received the pandemic assistance request. It mentions not to call . This whole thing disgusts me. How can it really be assistance when they haven't assisted in 9.5 weeks? I am so glad I've paid taxes for 18 years on my small business and sex work income only to receive $0 when I really need it.

    BUT .... I do have hope of getting approved and being able to pay back some of the credit card advance / small loan from my parents that it took to survive. I am frustrated but I DO have hope. I deserve this help as much as anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ava$ View Post
    So, had you been getting unemployment all the way up and until they sent this letter and didnt pay you? Like this came out of nowhere and u didnt earn other income? It does sound like they dont want to pay people, this doesnt make any since if you dont make other money anywhere else? Then you cant get through I already know on the phone cause you cant in illinois either and NY is way worse im sure!
    Yes, exactly as you said. My unemployment still has not been reinstated or received any letter about it.

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    I always felt like we should’ve been treated like “family”, bc it would’ve created a more positive environment for everyone.
    That's funny you say that because the attitude from my club reminded me of how employers will pitch this "We're a family here!' line but really what they mean is something like "we expect you to kill yourself working like we're YOUR family, but you sure as hell aren't gonna be treated like OUR family".

    Agree with pent up frustration. Literally the bare minimum they could do is enforce all customers & staff to wear masks. I might actually go in for stage only if they did that. But they just say "We can't MAKE customers wear them". Yes, you can! Costco is doing it! The Wynn is going to do it! Our major airport and several airlines are doing it! The club is a privately owned business and you can elect to serve or not serve whoever you want.... but the club is just too interested in kissing the ass of customers for a $10 cover charge and a couple of drinks.
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    Did you maybe accidentally answer one of the certifying questions wrong like when it asks if you’d earned money or worked you accidentally hit yes rather than no? That sucks girl, wtf!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ava$ View Post
    I got approved for food stamps then unemployment finally came through about 2 months later, can we still continue to get the food stamps even though we get unemployment? My state said if i make over 1800 per month i dont qualify for the stamps so does unemployment count or not? im in illinois btw, my unemployment just came through last week
    So you should call your local welfare office but in my state, they are not stopping any food stamps or Medicaid if you receive unemployment that puts you over the limit until the state of emergency is over. She told me I wasn’t even required to report anything. So I would double check but likely your good .

    And I posted in another thread but my club is a hot fucking mess. I guess they aren’t doing stage but still doing rooms on STREET clothes and masks. Makes no sense and I can’t see how hats following the 6ft guidelines the state required so I’m staying the hell outta there at least until all restrictions are lifted and it’s back to business as usual. I’ve used 10 of my 39 weeks of unemployment so i have some time.
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    Hi everyone, I thought I would share some information regarding PUA limitations based on a "self-employed" status. Although our government passed and has allowed for the ridiculous sized paycheck's of CEO's to be protected, they care so deeply about restricting our unemployment based on their own "investigative" work into our industries. I work out of state and drive over 3 hours to spend a weekend working a few weekends a month during season. I have been on PUA since the closure of my club.

    My child has an immune system cancer.

    I have now received a letter from unemployment stating my industry is back open and I'm expected to go back to work. The guidelines from the Department of Labor have issued all states to examine all PUA applications regarding phase re-opening guidelines to ensure individuals do not stay on unemployment due to a generalized fear of the virus. In my particular case the club does NOT open until June 15th which would entitle me to receive 3 more weeks of benefits however the letter I received states the following-
    Our records indicate you are (1) a self-employed individual in an
    industry that has been cleared to reopen and (2) receiving benefits under the federal
    Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) program.
    This likely means that your place of employment is no longer closed as a direct
    result of COVID-19. It may also mean that businesses that were forced to suspend
    operations are no longer experiencing a significant diminution of work and may be
    ready to reopen. If that is the case, refusing to return to work typically makes
    you ineligible to receive unemployment benefits.

    Listed below are some Questions and Answers to help you understand what comes next.
    What should I do when I return to work?

    Simply stop filing your Weekly Certifications for unemployment.
    You do not need to report to DEW that you’ve gone back to work.

    What should I do if I’m returning to work, but will be earning less or
    working reduced hours?

    Continue to file your Weekly Certifications and report any income you receive.
    Remember, you must report income for the week in which it was earned,
    not the week in which you are paid. Any income you earn may reduce
    your weekly benefit amount; however, if you continue to be eligible for
    weekly benefits, you will continue to receive the flat $600 Federal Pandemic
    Unemployment Compensation

    What happens if I start earning income again and do not report those
    earnings on my Weekly Certifications?

    If you continue to receive benefits for weeks after you return to work
    and earned income, you may be required to pay back the benefits you
    were overpaid. Also, failing to report earnings may constitute fraud,
    and lead to civil and criminal penalties.

    I have reasonable concerns that my workplace is unsafe.
    Can I choose not to return to work and remain eligible for
    unemployment benefits?

    According to the information you provided to DEW when
    filing your initial claim, your industry has been cleared to
    reopen. You should take steps to address the necessary social
    distancing protocols, which includes complying with safety
    standards as recommended by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC)
    or other government authorities or industry groups. In a
    situation where the necessary social distancing protocols are
    in place, you may be found ineligible for benefits if you
    do not return to work.

    I can make more money receiving unemployment benefits
    than I can make in income during this time. Can I choose
    to not return to work and continue receiving unemployment benefits?

    No. Choosing not to return to work solely on the basis that
    you will earn less than you can collect in unemployment
    benefits is not considered good cause when your
    employer has offered you your former employment back or
    other suitable employment. If DEW determines that you have
    refused to return to work solely on this basis, you will
    not be eligible to receive benefits.


    My industry has been reopened, but as a direct result of COVID-19,
    I am not able to return to work. Are you saying my benefits will be cut off?

    No, although eligibility for PUA typically requires that the individual
    be able to work and available to work within the meaning of applicable
    state law, if you are unable or unavailable to work because of a reason
    listed under section 2102(a)(3)(A)(ii)(I) of the CARES Act, you would be
    eligible to continue receiving unemployment benefits under PUA.

    Returning to work is an important step, not only for a stable economy,
    but for each individual’s long-term employment security. While the
    state and federal unemployment benefits are available to help through the height of the pandemic, it is time for the
    state to safely and carefully make our way back to work.


    For those wondering how to genuinely qualify for PUA while their place of work has reopened (generalized anxiety is not listed and will not be accepted by the UI department) the federal guidelines from section 2102(a)(3)(A)(ii)(I) of the CARES Act are as follows:

    (aa) the individual has been diagnosed with COVID–19 or is experiencing symptoms of COVID–19 and seeking a medical diagnosis;
    (bb) a member of the individual’s household has been diagnosed with COVID–19;
    (cc) the individual is providing care for a family member or a member of the individual’s household who has been diagnosed with COVID–19;
    (dd) a child or other person in the household for which the individual has primary caregiving responsibility is unable to attend school or another facility that is closed as a direct result of the COVID–19 public health emergency and such school or facility care is required for the individual to work;
    (ee) the individual is unable to reach the place of employment because of a quarantine imposed as a direct result of the COVID–19 public health emergency;
    (ff) the individual is unable to reach the place of employment because the individual has been advised by a health care provider to self-quarantine due to concerns related to COVID–19;
    (gg) the individual was scheduled to commence employment and does not have a job or is unable to reach the job as a direct result of the COVID–19 public health emergency;
    (hh) the individual has become the breadwinner or major support for a household because the head of the household has died as a direct result of COVID–19;
    (ii) the individual has to quit his or her job as a direct result of COVID–19;
    (jj) the individual’s place of employment is closed as a direct result of the COVID– 19 public health emergency; or
    (kk) the individual meets any additional criteria established by the Secretary for unemployment assistance under this section

    My initial application indicated that businesses I am self-employed with were closed due to the governor orders, however the oncology team at the hospital has verified that I meet additional criteria to remain on UI.

    And as much as I’m convinced my ass alone could bring back this economy, it’s not going to happen.

    Although some states are slower than others, the national guidelines indicate we will all receive a similar letter at some point regarding our PUA in accordance with phase re-opening. I'm writing this post in hopes that no one is caught off guard should they receive this communication. Everyone has the right to get their ducks in order to protect their health and benefits.

    And I'm sure if that letter I received from UI could have included a physical kick back to work it would have.
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    Default Re: Is anyone applying for unemployment due to covid-19? Apparently we can....

    Quote Originally Posted by PhoebesMeow View Post
    Hi everyone, I thought I would share some information regarding PUA limitations based on a "self-employed" status. Although our government passed and has allowed for the ridiculous sized paycheck's of CEO's to be protected, they care so deeply about restricting our unemployment based on their own "investigative" work into our industries. I work out of state and drive over 3 hours to spend a weekend working a few weekends a month during season. I have been on PUA since the closure of my club.

    My child has an immune system cancer.

    I have now received a letter from unemployment stating my industry is back open and I'm expected to go back to work. The guidelines from the Department of Labor have issued all states to examine all PUA applications regarding phase re-opening guidelines to ensure individuals do not stay on unemployment due to a generalized fear of the virus. In my particular case the club does NOT open until June 15th which would entitle me to receive 3 more weeks of benefits however the letter I received states the following-
    Our records indicate you are (1) a self-employed individual in an
    industry that has been cleared to reopen and (2) receiving benefits under the federal
    Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) program.
    This likely means that your place of employment is no longer closed as a direct
    result of COVID-19. It may also mean that businesses that were forced to suspend
    operations are no longer experiencing a significant diminution of work and may be
    ready to reopen. If that is the case, refusing to return to work typically makes
    you ineligible to receive unemployment benefits.

    Listed below are some Questions and Answers to help you understand what comes next.
    What should I do when I return to work?

    Simply stop filing your Weekly Certifications for unemployment.
    You do not need to report to DEW that you’ve gone back to work.

    What should I do if I’m returning to work, but will be earning less or
    working reduced hours?

    Continue to file your Weekly Certifications and report any income you receive.
    Remember, you must report income for the week in which it was earned,
    not the week in which you are paid. Any income you earn may reduce
    your weekly benefit amount; however, if you continue to be eligible for
    weekly benefits, you will continue to receive the flat $600 Federal Pandemic
    Unemployment Compensation

    What happens if I start earning income again and do not report those
    earnings on my Weekly Certifications?

    If you continue to receive benefits for weeks after you return to work
    and earned income, you may be required to pay back the benefits you
    were overpaid. Also, failing to report earnings may constitute fraud,
    and lead to civil and criminal penalties.

    I have reasonable concerns that my workplace is unsafe.
    Can I choose not to return to work and remain eligible for
    unemployment benefits?

    According to the information you provided to DEW when
    filing your initial claim, your industry has been cleared to
    reopen. You should take steps to address the necessary social
    distancing protocols, which includes complying with safety
    standards as recommended by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC)
    or other government authorities or industry groups. In a
    situation where the necessary social distancing protocols are
    in place, you may be found ineligible for benefits if you
    do not return to work.

    I can make more money receiving unemployment benefits
    than I can make in income during this time. Can I choose
    to not return to work and continue receiving unemployment benefits?

    No. Choosing not to return to work solely on the basis that
    you will earn less than you can collect in unemployment
    benefits is not considered good cause when your
    employer has offered you your former employment back or
    other suitable employment. If DEW determines that you have
    refused to return to work solely on this basis, you will
    not be eligible to receive benefits.


    My industry has been reopened, but as a direct result of COVID-19,
    I am not able to return to work. Are you saying my benefits will be cut off?

    No, although eligibility for PUA typically requires that the individual
    be able to work and available to work within the meaning of applicable
    state law, if you are unable or unavailable to work because of a reason
    listed under section 2102(a)(3)(A)(ii)(I) of the CARES Act, you would be
    eligible to continue receiving unemployment benefits under PUA.

    Returning to work is an important step, not only for a stable economy,
    but for each individual’s long-term employment security. While the
    state and federal unemployment benefits are available to help through the height of the pandemic, it is time for the
    state to safely and carefully make our way back to work.


    For those wondering how to genuinely qualify for PUA while their place of work has reopened (generalized anxiety is not listed and will not be accepted by the UI department) the federal guidelines from section 2102(a)(3)(A)(ii)(I) of the CARES Act are as follows:

    (aa) the individual has been diagnosed with COVID–19 or is experiencing symptoms of COVID–19 and seeking a medical diagnosis;
    (bb) a member of the individual’s household has been diagnosed with COVID–19;
    (cc) the individual is providing care for a family member or a member of the individual’s household who has been diagnosed with COVID–19;
    (dd) a child or other person in the household for which the individual has primary caregiving responsibility is unable to attend school or another facility that is closed as a direct result of the COVID–19 public health emergency and such school or facility care is required for the individual to work;
    (ee) the individual is unable to reach the place of employment because of a quarantine imposed as a direct result of the COVID–19 public health emergency;
    (ff) the individual is unable to reach the place of employment because the individual has been advised by a health care provider to self-quarantine due to concerns related to COVID–19;
    (gg) the individual was scheduled to commence employment and does not have a job or is unable to reach the job as a direct result of the COVID–19 public health emergency;
    (hh) the individual has become the breadwinner or major support for a household because the head of the household has died as a direct result of COVID–19;
    (ii) the individual has to quit his or her job as a direct result of COVID–19;
    (jj) the individual’s place of employment is closed as a direct result of the COVID– 19 public health emergency; or
    (kk) the individual meets any additional criteria established by the Secretary for unemployment assistance under this section

    My initial application indicated that businesses I am self-employed with were closed due to the governor orders, however the oncology team at the hospital has verified that I meet additional criteria to remain on UI.

    And as much as I’m convinced my ass alone could bring back this economy, it’s not going to happen.

    Although some states are slower than others, the national guidelines indicate we will all receive a similar letter at some point regarding our PUA in accordance with phase re-opening. I'm writing this post in hopes that no one is caught off guard should they receive this communication. Everyone has the right to get their ducks in order to protect their health and benefits.

    And I'm sure if that letter I received from UI could have included a physical kick back to work it would have.
    This is exactly what I was error about thanks for posting. So to be clear, if I return to work but am making less/working less hours than prior to the pandemic, I report those earnings and continue to receive unemployment and pua? I’m pretty sure that’s how it works since one of my friends (in construction) returns part time but was making under the unemployment amount so continued to receive those benefits plus pua.
    Hopefully this is the case. Technically I don’t even think my club is allowed or have dancers just the bar is allowed to remain open.
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    You can only make so much selling dances, but when you really get into a guys head and heart, you get into his wallet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoebesMeow View Post
    Hi everyone, I thought I would share some information regarding PUA limitations based on a "self-employed" status. Although our government passed and has allowed for the ridiculous sized paycheck's of CEO's to be protected, they care so deeply about restricting our unemployment based on their own "investigative" work into our industries. I work out of state and drive over 3 hours to spend a weekend working a few weekends a month during season. I have been on PUA since the closure of my club.

    My child has an immune system cancer.

    I have now received a letter from unemployment stating my industry is back open and I'm expected to go back to work. The guidelines from the Department of Labor have issued all states to examine all PUA applications regarding phase re-opening guidelines to ensure individuals do not stay on unemployment due to a generalized fear of the virus. In my particular case the club does NOT open until June 15th which would entitle me to receive 3 more weeks of benefits however the letter I received states the following-
    Our records indicate you are (1) a self-employed individual in an
    industry that has been cleared to reopen and (2) receiving benefits under the federal
    Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) program.
    This likely means that your place of employment is no longer closed as a direct
    result of COVID-19. It may also mean that businesses that were forced to suspend
    operations are no longer experiencing a significant diminution of work and may be
    ready to reopen. If that is the case, refusing to return to work typically makes
    you ineligible to receive unemployment benefits.

    Listed below are some Questions and Answers to help you understand what comes next.
    What should I do when I return to work?

    Simply stop filing your Weekly Certifications for unemployment.
    You do not need to report to DEW that you’ve gone back to work.

    What should I do if I’m returning to work, but will be earning less or
    working reduced hours?

    Continue to file your Weekly Certifications and report any income you receive.
    Remember, you must report income for the week in which it was earned,
    not the week in which you are paid. Any income you earn may reduce
    your weekly benefit amount; however, if you continue to be eligible for
    weekly benefits, you will continue to receive the flat $600 Federal Pandemic
    Unemployment Compensation

    What happens if I start earning income again and do not report those
    earnings on my Weekly Certifications?

    If you continue to receive benefits for weeks after you return to work
    and earned income, you may be required to pay back the benefits you
    were overpaid. Also, failing to report earnings may constitute fraud,
    and lead to civil and criminal penalties.

    I have reasonable concerns that my workplace is unsafe.
    Can I choose not to return to work and remain eligible for
    unemployment benefits?

    According to the information you provided to DEW when
    filing your initial claim, your industry has been cleared to
    reopen. You should take steps to address the necessary social
    distancing protocols, which includes complying with safety
    standards as recommended by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC)
    or other government authorities or industry groups. In a
    situation where the necessary social distancing protocols are
    in place, you may be found ineligible for benefits if you
    do not return to work.

    I can make more money receiving unemployment benefits
    than I can make in income during this time. Can I choose
    to not return to work and continue receiving unemployment benefits?

    No. Choosing not to return to work solely on the basis that
    you will earn less than you can collect in unemployment
    benefits is not considered good cause when your
    employer has offered you your former employment back or
    other suitable employment. If DEW determines that you have
    refused to return to work solely on this basis, you will
    not be eligible to receive benefits.


    My industry has been reopened, but as a direct result of COVID-19,
    I am not able to return to work. Are you saying my benefits will be cut off?

    No, although eligibility for PUA typically requires that the individual
    be able to work and available to work within the meaning of applicable
    state law, if you are unable or unavailable to work because of a reason
    listed under section 2102(a)(3)(A)(ii)(I) of the CARES Act, you would be
    eligible to continue receiving unemployment benefits under PUA.

    Returning to work is an important step, not only for a stable economy,
    but for each individual’s long-term employment security. While the
    state and federal unemployment benefits are available to help through the height of the pandemic, it is time for the
    state to safely and carefully make our way back to work.


    For those wondering how to genuinely qualify for PUA while their place of work has reopened (generalized anxiety is not listed and will not be accepted by the UI department) the federal guidelines from section 2102(a)(3)(A)(ii)(I) of the CARES Act are as follows:

    (aa) the individual has been diagnosed with COVID–19 or is experiencing symptoms of COVID–19 and seeking a medical diagnosis;
    (bb) a member of the individual’s household has been diagnosed with COVID–19;
    (cc) the individual is providing care for a family member or a member of the individual’s household who has been diagnosed with COVID–19;
    (dd) a child or other person in the household for which the individual has primary caregiving responsibility is unable to attend school or another facility that is closed as a direct result of the COVID–19 public health emergency and such school or facility care is required for the individual to work;
    (ee) the individual is unable to reach the place of employment because of a quarantine imposed as a direct result of the COVID–19 public health emergency;
    (ff) the individual is unable to reach the place of employment because the individual has been advised by a health care provider to self-quarantine due to concerns related to COVID–19;
    (gg) the individual was scheduled to commence employment and does not have a job or is unable to reach the job as a direct result of the COVID–19 public health emergency;
    (hh) the individual has become the breadwinner or major support for a household because the head of the household has died as a direct result of COVID–19;
    (ii) the individual has to quit his or her job as a direct result of COVID–19;
    (jj) the individual’s place of employment is closed as a direct result of the COVID– 19 public health emergency; or
    (kk) the individual meets any additional criteria established by the Secretary for unemployment assistance under this section

    My initial application indicated that businesses I am self-employed with were closed due to the governor orders, however the oncology team at the hospital has verified that I meet additional criteria to remain on UI.

    And as much as I’m convinced my ass alone could bring back this economy, it’s not going to happen.

    Although some states are slower than others, the national guidelines indicate we will all receive a similar letter at some point regarding our PUA in accordance with phase re-opening. I'm writing this post in hopes that no one is caught off guard should they receive this communication. Everyone has the right to get their ducks in order to protect their health and benefits.

    And I'm sure if that letter I received from UI could have included a physical kick back to work it would have.
    Wtf, they are crazy with this, they are literally forcing us to risk our lives just to see if the country will make $$again, there’s no way we’re gonna make good $$ in this , they just want us to be there to make no money, that’s ridiculous 😷👎🏻

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    Default Re: Is anyone applying for unemployment due to covid-19? Apparently we can....

    Quote Originally Posted by Danni View Post
    This is exactly what I was error about thanks for posting. So to be clear, if I return to work but am making less/working less hours than prior to the pandemic, I report those earnings and continue to receive unemployment and pua? I’m pretty sure that’s how it works since one of my friends (in construction) returns part time but was making under the unemployment amount so continued to receive those benefits plus pua.
    Hopefully this is the case. Technically I don’t even think my club is allowed or have dancers just the bar is allowed to remain open.
    I believe it depends on your weekly earning allowance listed in your PUA file, which tends to be pretty low. Mine is less than $40 a week. However, it's my understanding as a self-employed individual or independent contractor our "earnings" are offset by our "expenses". I don't see any reference to this regarding UI benefits, which adds an extra element of dumbfuckery to the entire process. Expenses as a self-employed entertainer? Oh let us count the ways- hair, skin, makeup, nails, wardrobe, etc, etc. If you are required to drive a long distance and stay at a hotel, it seems unlikely we would even break even. It's ironic because the federal PUA $600 was originally intended to keep people home to stop the spread of the virus. Now, according to that letter I received, the state would expect someone to go through the entire process of going into a club, making peanuts, possibly contracting and spreading the virus, just so they can honestly certify they did not meet their weekly earnings allowance in order to receive the PUA benefits. The other option is to honestly qualify for one of the clauses listed above in the CARES Act.

    Please take everything I say with a grain of salt because I am not an attorney and I can't pretend as though I truly understand the scope of any of this or am correct in any capacity. I would encourage others to seek out their own particular questions from a variety of sources, and not rely on any one particular message board considering the ongoing interpretation of these newly passed laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ava$ View Post
    Wtf, they are crazy with this, they are literally forcing us to risk our lives just to see if the country will make $$again, there’s no way we’re gonna make good $$ in this , they just want us to be there to make no money, that’s ridiculous ������
    That's correct. I'm unsure if a letter requiring clarification has been issued in response to the senate democrats regarding the topic, “Given that returning to work during the current public health emergency presents a serious risk to the health and safety of many workers, it is crucial that the Department make clear that individuals cannot be forced to choose between keeping their income and putting their lives in danger,” the senators wrote. You may find this letter interesting.

    https://www.finance.senate.gov/ranki...ncial-security

    If have not had time to research the response that was required by May 25th, but if you find it please keep us updated as this strongly correlates to the club industry.

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    That was a super rude letter to send out and I agree with all the sentiment here. What did you write in your app that told them industry?

    If you have a doctor's note about your child, I would ignore it and keep claiming. Get one from your own doctor too.

    I feel like this is a vague and threatening letter precisely because they don't have a way to check up on ICs. No employer to tattle on them for not returning.

    Now I'm glad I was vague about my job title and didn't list my clubs... what a bunch of bullshit. Economy over lives I guess
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