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    Watch this video before it is removed

    https://mobile.twitter.com/WayneDupr...28599686131714

    When John Roberts walked into the briefing room the guy with the mask said: "Everybody here has been vaccinated anyways."

    Wth???

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    Our "elites" have failed us again.

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    Depends on what have they been vaccinated for...
    Without context this is nothing


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    Girl can you stop with the conspiracies?

    I caught covid last month...it’s no joke. I’m still recovering a month later. I was very fit and healthy before this, I can absolutely see how it would be life threatening for someone who is elderly or otherwise immunocompromised.

    At least one member here has lost a family member to covid. It isn’t a damn hoax.

    Seriously knock it off. If you haven’t personally been affected be grateful for that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lurkingtitties View Post
    Girl can you stop with the conspiracies?

    I caught covid last month...it’s no joke. I’m still recovering a month later. I was very fit and healthy before this, I can absolutely see how it would be life threatening for someone who is elderly or otherwise immunocompromised.

    At least one member here has lost a family member to covid. It isn’t a damn hoax.

    Seriously knock it off. If you haven’t personally been affected be grateful for that.

    Seriously, did you not hear the most important thing said in that video? The guy said everyone in that room has been vaccinated. Vaccinated? But we are told there is no vaccine.

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    Isn't it convenient that the person allegedly saying these conspiratorial things has a mask on, and so theres no way to confirm they said it? And of course, there's no way video editing can be good enough to splice in audio from another source into a random video like this one, with the sole intent of causing discord..

    I work in the military, and one of the biggest issues that has arisen during the pandemic is a massive rise in cyber criminals sowing disinformation and using the pandemic as a way to hack into people's systems and create distrust of our leaders. "Watch this video" links are being sent out to numerous government employees with viruses and other phishing scams embedded, so that when they're watched, the user's system is now compromised.

    Be smart people. Verify sources. Don't believe a random tweet from a random person unless you fact check it. And please, be very careful what you open on your personal computers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titus23 View Post
    Isn't it convenient that the person allegedly saying these conspiratorial things has a mask on, and so theres no way to confirm they said it? And of course, there's no way video editing can be good enough to splice in audio from another source into a random video like this one, with the sole intent of causing discord..

    I work in the military, and one of the biggest issues that has arisen during the pandemic is a massive rise in cyber criminals sowing disinformation and using the pandemic as a way to hack into people's systems and create distrust of our leaders. "Watch this video" links are being sent out to numerous government employees with viruses and other phishing scams embedded, so that when they're watched, the user's system is now compromised.

    Be smart people. Verify sources. Don't believe a random tweet from a random person unless you fact check it. And please, be very careful what you open on your personal computers.
    What you are saying makes sense. But I still want to know why the guy in the mask says everyone in the room has been vaccinated anyways. If there is a vaccine, it takes at least 12 to 18 months for the vaccine to be developed and tested after a virus becomes known. We were told the world has learnt of the virus this past winter. If the video is fake, who was able to shoot it in Trump's press conference room?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelina View Post
    Seriously, did you not hear the most important thing said in that video? The guy said everyone in that room has been vaccinated. Vaccinated? But we are told there is no vaccine.
    I personally would need to see legit paperwork showing “everyone in that room was vaccinated” and for what disease.

    From what I understand people were rushing out to get flu vaccines which the studies claimed were not effective against covid19

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    so apparently this was just two reporters just talking shit... one from an outlet that enabled the spread in the first place. I also read they were joking but I didn't trust those sources so I won't post it. Since a large part of not believing is not having a base idea of science, they could believe that they are okay since they got a flu shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelina View Post
    What you are saying makes sense. But I still want to know why the guy in the mask says everyone in the room has been vaccinated anyways. If there is a vaccine, it takes at least 12 to 18 months for the vaccine to be developed and tested after a virus becomes known. We were told the world has learnt of the virus this past winter. If the video is fake, who was able to shoot it in Trump's press conference room?
    I believe Titus is saying the video could be real but the audio could be altered.

    You can’t see anyone’s mouths moving so you really can’t tell if the guys in the video are really saying that.

    I don’t know if the video has been altered or not but k do know that the unknown gives people anxiety and if wearing a face mask gives someone comfort (they aren’t hurting themselves or other peopl) then why hassle them about it?

    IF Coronavirus were the same level as flu - I still don’t see harm in people wearing face masks in public. Too many nasties out here hacking n coughing, traipsing out in public spaces while sick, and if this can help cut back on even harmless colds then let it be.

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    But as far as pharmaceutical industry n vaccines.

    Yep I think they’re greedy n manipulative.

    i posted in that other thread before it got closed that this pandemic scare is going to continue to affect daily life until a vaccine is “developed”

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    I personally would need to see legit paperwork showing “everyone in that room was vaccinated” and for what disease.

    From what I understand people were rushing out to get flu vaccines which the studies claimed were not effective against covid19
    Exactly. I am sure people in that press conference room were well aware that the flu vaccine is not effective against COVID-19. John Roberts says
    to the guy in the mask: "take off the mask, case fatality rates are 0.1% to 0.3%". And the guy in the mask says: "Oh really? That's reassuring. Everyone here has been vaccinated anyways".

    To me it sounded like the guy in the mask was talking about a vaccine helpful against COVID-19. Just weird. Wonder what John Roberts will be saying when we see him on the news. Or will this incident be swept under the carpet?

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    They are now saying the guy in the mask, a New York Times photographer Doug Mills was joking when he said "everyone here has been vaccinated anyways".

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dai...accinated.html

    So he was either joking, or the media was caught red handed and is now trying to cover it up.

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    It's not the vaccinated rip that is the problem. It's that the so called "elites" are clueless. Watch the rest of the video. They don't know if masks help or not. (They don't.) They don't know if social distancing helps or not. (It might, but for a month the advice from the CDC was wash your hands.) They don't even know the overall rate of infections and thus they have no idea what the recovery rate is. In short, people we depend on for answers didn't have them, people we depend on for a steady hand got in a panic. Then they proceeded to scare people into doing something that they had no idea if it would help or hurt. In the process we have put 22+ million out of work. We have destroyed jobs, careers, retirement plans and put many more millions at risk of losing their homes. Not good government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lurkingtitties View Post

    I caught covid last month...it’s no joke. I’m still recovering a month later. I was very fit and healthy before this, I can absolutely see how it would be life threatening for someone who is elderly or otherwise immunocompromised.

    At least one member here has lost a family member to covid. It isn’t a damn hoax.
    I read this earlier today and I didn't have enough time to post. I'd just like to say that I'm happy to hear that you're one of those who are recovering. I hope you continue to do so and get back to full health very soon. ♥️

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    Quote Originally Posted by lurkingtitties View Post
    Girl can you stop with the conspiracies?

    I caught covid last month...it’s no joke. I’m still recovering a month later. I was very fit and healthy before this, I can absolutely see how it would be life threatening for someone who is elderly or otherwise immunocompromised.

    At least one member here has lost a family member to covid. It isn’t a damn hoax.

    Seriously knock it off. If you haven’t personally been affected be grateful for that.
    Glad you recovered!


    It's not a hoax. & Of course the elite of America don't believe it's happening. They're always sheltered from life on the street anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zofia View Post
    It's not the vaccinated rip that is the problem. It's that the so called "elites" are clueless. Watch the rest of the video. They don't know if masks help or not. (They don't.) They don't know if social distancing helps or not. (It might, but for a month the advice from the CDC was wash your hands.) They don't even know the overall rate of infections and thus they have no idea what the recovery rate is. In short, people we depend on for answers didn't have them, people we depend on for a steady hand got in a panic. Then they proceeded to scare people into doing something that they had no idea if it would help or hurt. In the process we have put 22+ million out of work. We have destroyed jobs, careers, retirement plans and put many more millions at risk of losing their homes. Not good government.

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    But the Wallstreet and their shareholders are being bailed out by taxpayer money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zofia View Post
    It's not the vaccinated rip that is the problem. It's that the so called "elites" are clueless. Watch the rest of the video. They don't know if masks help or not. (They don't.) They don't know if social distancing helps or not. (It might, but for a month the advice from the CDC was wash your hands.) They don't even know the overall rate of infections and thus they have no idea what the recovery rate is. In short, people we depend on for answers didn't have them, people we depend on for a steady hand got in a panic. Then they proceeded to scare people into doing something that they had no idea if it would help or hurt. In the process we have put 22+ million out of work. We have destroyed jobs, careers, retirement plans and put many more millions at risk of losing their homes. Not good government.

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    Pandemics have been going on for thousands of years, and by now we have a good idea of what works in containing them, and what doesn't. Staying inside as much as possible and practicing social distancing when going out does help. How well masks work, depends a lot on the type of mask and if it is being worn correctly. The CDC is now recommending everyone wear a mask when going outside.
    https://www.livescience.com/cdc-reco...ronavirus.html

    Gloves don't work. Washing your hands does. If you're wearing gloves and touch something that is contaminated with the virus, and then touch your face, it's no different than if you weren't wearing gloves at all. Wearing gloves can be worse than not wearing them, if wearing them results in washing your hands less frequently. Also, there is the possibility of getting the virus on your hands when taking the gloves off, if not done correctly.

    Testing everyone, and placing anyone who tests positive in quarantine does work. This is how China was able to contain the pandemic. Anyone who tested positive was placed in a hotel room for two weeks and prohibited from having contact with anyone else. Meals were brought to them by workers in hazmat suits and left at their doors. Our country has been behind other countries in testing, and enacting stay at home and social distancing policies. It is estimated that if we had enacted these policies two weeks sooner, 90% of the deaths could have been avoided. In most Chinese cities, life has returned to normal. In Germany, life is returning to normal, because they were proactive. If our country had been more prepared and acted sooner, it's possible that life could be returning to normal here. You're correct. Not good government.
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    So I was watching live White House corona briefing today. I saw Trump, Pence, Fauci, the scarf lady, sergeant general and some other guy repeatedly hold on to the same wooden tribune podium with their hands. At one point Trump touched his face. I do understand that everyone in the audience got tested for the virus and they wouldn't let anyone who is positive to be in the room. So I was thinking, are Trump, Pence, Fauci, the scarf lady, sergeant general and that one other guy (I didn't get who he is, some medical guy probably), are they all and their families staying in the same building and being quarantined? They were touching the same object with their hands without disinfecting it between use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zofia View Post
    It's not the vaccinated rip that is the problem. It's that the so called "elites" are clueless. Watch the rest of the video. They don't know if masks help or not. (They don't.) They don't know if social distancing helps or not. (It might, but for a month the advice from the CDC was wash your hands.) They don't even know the overall rate of infections and thus they have no idea what the recovery rate is. In short, people we depend on for answers didn't have them, people we depend on for a steady hand got in a panic. Then they proceeded to scare people into doing something that they had no idea if it would help or hurt. In the process we have put 22+ million out of work. We have destroyed jobs, careers, retirement plans and put many more millions at risk of losing their homes. Not good government.

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    Actually, most recent study from the CDC said that masks help to prevent transmission when used properly. It's to the point where across the entire department of defense, we MUST wear a mask if on a military installation. It doesn't matter what you're doing. If you show up to the gate without a mask, you will be denied entry.

    I think the primary issue is the same issue faced during every pandemic. We've never seen it before, so we just don't know. Unfortunately, this pandemic began in a country notorious for not sharing information, so it made it difficult for the rest of the world to understand what techniques and procedures are most effective at combating the spread. Combine that with our own leadership that is more focused on self-congratulation than actual effective leadership, and you have a recipe for misinformation, slow reactions, and higher infection rates.

    Now that we are several months into the global spread, we can see more clearly what works and what doesn't. Social distancing has worked very well at flattening the curve in many European countries. Those countries are run by a strong federal government that is able to implement controls across the country at once. In America, we are much more decentralized, relying on our Governors to make the call for shutting things down. This led to a range of reactions without centralized leadership. Personally, I am classically liberal (different than American liberal) and favor a decentralized government. In this case though, it hurt us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    Pandemics have been going on for thousands of years, and by now we have a good idea of what works in containing them, and what doesn't. Staying inside as much as possible and practicing social distancing when going out does help. How well masks work, depends a lot on the type of mask and if it is being worn correctly. The CDC is now recommending everyone wear a mask when going outside.
    https://www.livescience.com/cdc-reco...ronavirus.html

    Gloves don't work. Washing your hands does. If you're wearing gloves and touch something that is contaminated with the virus, and then touch your face, it's no different than if you weren't wearing gloves at all. Wearing gloves can be worse than not wearing them, if wearing them results in washing your hands less frequently. Also, there is the possibility of getting the virus on your hands when taking the gloves off, if not done correctly.

    Testing everyone, and placing anyone who tests positive in quarantine does work. This is how China was able to contain the pandemic. Anyone who tested positive was placed in a hotel room for two weeks and prohibited from having contact with anyone else. Meals were brought to them by workers in hazmat suits and left at their doors. Our country has been behind other countries in testing, and enacting stay at home and social distancing policies. It is estimated that if we had enacted these policies two weeks sooner, 90% of the deaths could have been avoided. In most Chinese cities, life has returned to normal. In Germany, life is returning to normal, because they were proactive. If our country had been more prepared and acted sooner, it's possible that life could be returning to normal here. You're correct. Not good government.
    The worst part about the gloves, are the ppl throwing them on parking lot grounds. Bunch of dirty assholes.

    I stopped using the gloves too. I thought they were pointless. Unless you work a cash register. I just step out with my spray saniter and alcohol when food shopping, and mask too of course. Hand wash as soon as I get home & spray my keys.

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