Not to mention, he's killing all HIS OWN voters with these dipshit Indoor rallies. No masks, no social distancing. What the fuck does this guy think is gonna happen? Well, that's one less dude that's gonna vote for you.
Not to mention, he's killing all HIS OWN voters with these dipshit Indoor rallies. No masks, no social distancing. What the fuck does this guy think is gonna happen? Well, that's one less dude that's gonna vote for you.
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Don't make me come down there and close this thread
Sorry couldn't resist. And I just posted the painting for sale thing so I'm right in there with all of you ( and ETA not directed at any one member)
Anyway as long as everyone is cool we can keep the thread open
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
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Trump is not a dictator. Trump wants to be a dictator. He doesn't have the power to have people killed or taken away forever, but he probably would if he could. He's already had Michael Cohen thrown in jail to try to prevent him from writing a book about him, which could have been a death sentence with the coronavirus oubreak in jails and prisons.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/n...rump-book.html
Trump's done everything within his power to prevent the press or anyone else from writing anything negative about him. He calls the press, "enemy of the people", knowing this will result in reporters being inundated with death threats, as well as acts of violence against the press by his supporters. He tries to discredit anything negative reported about him as "fake news" or a "hoax". He refused to condemn Saudi Arabia for brutally murdering a journalist, and blocked sanctions. He refuses to condemn Putin for poisoning his opponents.
Again, Trump isn't a dictator. He wants to be one. He doesn't have the power to have his critics killed or thrown in jail, but he probably would if he could. He's called for 10 year prison sentences for toppling statues, which is a form of protest. Again, he wanted to use active duty military, including tanks, against peaceful protesters.
You're the one who doesn't know what happened in that era. Hitler did not take over large chunks of the private economy. He privatized state owned businesses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Econom..._business_ties
Hitler did not disarm the population. He liberalized gun laws. The previous government banned gun ownership. Hitler changed the law to allow nazis to own guns. If Trump were to become dictator, he most likely would not disarm the population, since many of his supporters own guns.
Google a history lesson re: President of the United States, separation of powers, and limits of power of POTUS. Trump wants to take control of the military, the economy and information. He doesn't have the power or the support to do it as of now, and he is also stupid and incompetent, which has hurt his efforts. It doesn't mean he wouldn't do it if he could, and there's no telling how far he will get if he's given another 4 years. He's already tried to get opponents and critics put in jail, use the military against American civilians, have a foreign power launch a criminal investigation against his opponent. He's publicly and privately tried to get reporters fired or taken off the air on Fox News, and in some cases was successful. He's tried to cancel the election in November, and he's told his supporters that he deserves three terms because of the way he's been treated.
It's an indisputable fact that Russia and Wikileaks were illegally interfering in our election, including illegally hacking email accounts of Clinton and the DNC, and the Trump campaign was collaborating with them. Paul Manaforte was sharing data with Russians. Roger Stone was in contact with Wikileaks and discussed the leaking of emails. Trump publicly called for Russia to hack Clinton's emails. It's also an indisputable fact that Michael Flynn lied to the FBI about conversations he had with the Russian Ambassador. It is the responsibility of the FBI to investigate these crimes, and the responsibility of the DOJ to prosecute them.
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Never-mind. Don't want to start a fuss.
Sarchasm (n): The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it
Um, this doesn't have anything to do with Jews. How about him separating Hispanic kids from their parents and stocking them in a freezing cold internment camp (Does that sound familiar to anybody? Ringing any bells?)! His constant rhetoric against Hispanics (Hitler did that too)? You know we have a few of those HERE ON THIS SITE right? They are good and pure. Sure there are some Hispanic criminals, but we have white criminals, too. Some people are just criminals, it doesn't matter what race they are. This dude selects out Hispanics to demonize.
No offense, but don't tell me he's not like Hitler. He's exactly like Hitler, just stupider (and Hitler wasn't very smart), and with a different target.
Jews *Pfft.* There's more people on the Planet than just Jews. This piece of shit probably DOES hate Jews, he just wants them counting his money for him.
Ridiculous!
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BTW, if anyone wants to question me on Hitler being a stupdass, consider this: He was the leader of a nation that was number one in practically every field on the planet, including MURDER. And yet he still LOST THE WAR.
So go ahead and worship him, if that's your thing. It just means we'll win again.
Sarchasm (n): The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it
Were you as outraged when Obama did the same thing ? He actually set records for deportations.
Hitler was not stupid. Foolish and unwise yes. Thank God because they led to his destruction and defeat. His glaring errors and crimes were driven by his Nazi ideology, ignorance and megalomania.
Germany lost the war because they couldn't match Soviet manpower or industrial capacity. The Soviets produced something like 5 times as many tanks and planes as the Germans. Add in American industrial power and German defeat was inevitable. Half of all German transport was horse powered.
Trump joins a lot of Americans in being outraged at serious crimes being committed by criminals who are here illegally. More than a few were deported numerous times . A lot of them are Hispanic. How would YOU keep them out of the country ? Or do you think we should welcome foreign criminals with open arms a la Carter in 1980 with the Cuban Boatlift ?
Your evidence for Trump's allege Jew hatred is what ? His daughter converted and married an Orthodox Jew. Trump's best friend was Jewish. He has been the best friend Israel has had since Nixon and Reagan. He moved our embassy to Jerusalem and he has sponsored numerous peace treaties between Israel and the UAE and Bahrain. Morocco is now normalizing relations with Israel thanks to Trump's policies. All totally under-reported by the media. Trump has fostered an alliance between Sunni Arabs and Israel based on mutual interest ; primarily fear of and opposition to Iran.
You are free to hate Trump as much as you want to although I am compelled to ask what he ever did to you ? Prior to Covid we had a booming economy which resulted in lots of dollars being placed between garter and thigh in a LOT of clubs. No thanks to Obama. That was Trump. You want to drink the Kool Aid and blame him for Covid and forest fires, go ahead. It won't change any facts but if it makes you fell better , go ahead.
I've laid out enough historical facts to toss your erroneous view of Germany and Hitler into a cocked hat. Even the British produced more airplanes than Germany. By the end of the war Germany was primarily reliant on slave labor. Many of whom sabotaged the weapons they produced. For instance , Mauser rifles produced by Czech workers at the mammoth Skoda arms works all had gunsights that were completely off. Many ended up arming the Israeli Army in 1948 and they had to rework the sights so that they would shoot accurately. Add in hundreds of engines that didn't work, winter uniforms that fell apart and dozens of other examples and Germany was far from Number 1 in anything. Even their battlefield medicine lagged behind everyone except the Soviets.
I strongly recommend you read Victor Davis Hanson's latest book: " The Second World Wars". Inter alia, he destroys the myth of German industrial might with the actual facts and figures. A prime reason Germany lost the war is that the the Allies outproduced them in overwhelming numbers.
Only because Hitler ran it into the ground. Before that they were #1 in almost every field.
Some genius.
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Sorry Eric, but you're the one drinking the Kool Aid. The economy was already booming when Trump took office. There was little difference in economic performance between Obama's 2nd term and Trump's first 3 years. Job growth was actually stronger during Obama's second term. About the only thing Trump accomplished economically, was add over $1 trillion to our natl debt with his tax cuts. Don't believe me? Look at the charts:
GDP growth over the past 10 years:
Job creation over the past 10 years:
What did Trump do to us? He's endangered the lives of everyone with his disastrous response to coronavirus, as well as killed 200,000 Americans with his stupidity, incompetence, and negligence. Trump is destroying our democracy. He's already trying to delegitimize our election. He's already calling it "rigged". He's trying to dismantle our postal system to prevent people from voting by mail. He's asking foreign governments to illegally interfere in our elections. He's trying to take away healthcare from millions of Americans by going to court to get ACA repealed, after failing to get it done through Congress. He's inciting hate and violence to the point where his followers are sending bombs to Trump's "enemies" and murdering dozens of people with assault rifles because of their religious beliefs or skin color.
I don't know about you, but I care about others besides myself. I care about thousands of children being forcibly removed from their parents and thrown in cold, overcrowded, lice-infested detention centers for weeks or months at a time, where conditions are so bad, that some of these children have died. Any decent person would find this heartbreaking. There are no limits to this man's cruelty.
This isn't a matter of politics and "right" and "left". It's a matter of right and wrong. Some things are just wrong, like everything I've mentioned above. I don't understand how you and Rick fail to see this. It's like 40% of Americans are in one giant cult that is oblivious to all of the awful things Trump does. It's not like he's doing this covertly. He does it right in the open for everyone to see, yet 40 - 45 percent of Americans are okay with it.
Obama had the weakest ever recovery from a recession. He did not have a single year , not one , with more than 2 % economic growth. Trump had record employment among Blacks and Hispanics along with substantial increases in real wages. Sorry Eagle. It won't float.
As far as those immigrant children , who bought them here ? The facilities where they kept are the same ones used under Obama. What was he supposed to do with them ? The kids that died came here sick. Their parents brought them here. There were some cases where their parents were nowhere to be found; where immigrants borrowed or rented them to try and get in. I'm sorry but I reserve my sympathy for the native born members of the working class who lose their jobs and /or have theior wages suppressed thanks to illegal immigrants.
I see you insist on repeating the canard that Trump has invited foreign interference in our elections. From whom ? How ?
By saying that if a foreign power gave him dirt on his opponent that he'd look at it ? So what ? Who wouldn't ? As long as he didn't pay for it there is NO CRIME !
Inciting violence ? Another canard. Trump is for law and order. Name one time he ever told people to attack others ?
Have you been listening to the rhetoric from BLM and Anti-Fa ? If you want to condemn GENUINE incitements to violence , why don't you start with them ?
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No one gives a shit about Obama. He's not the President.
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Who said Hitler was a genius ? I never did.
I strongly urge you to READ some history . Particularly the aforementioned work by Professor Hanson. Also the Rick Atkinson Trilogy. Alex Kershaw and several others. Germany was NOT Number 1 EXCEPT in rocket and jet technology. Even there , the weakness of their economy thanks to bombing and material shortages prevented them from exploiting their few technological advantages to the full. Thank God. For instance, they were years behind us in developing an atomic bomb.
Trump is up there talking about a THIRD TERM. Never gonna happen. First off, the House would never allow it. This Monster can't just bang his gavel and make that happen. Reagan wanted a third term, too, so did Clinton.
Text of the 22nd Amendment
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once.
This is why we didn't have Gerald Ford for all that long.
Do you know how long it takes to create a new Amendment repealing that? Even if he wins, it'd still be in the works when this fucker's out of office!
God, what a moron that prick is.
Sarchasm (n): The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it
Well that puts you in the minority. Because among Dems and the media , the man who won the Nobel Peace Prize without doing anything was one of our all time great Presidents. I mention him as a point of reference and as a contrast to genuine accomplishment by Trump, despite all his faults and flaws.





Practically every year GDP growth was over 2% when Obama was in office. Can you read a simple chart? There was no difference in GDP growth between Obama's last 6 years and Trump's 3 years. The only reason why unemployment was lower under Trump before 2020, is because Trump started out with 4.5% unemployment and Obama started out with 9%. 2014 - 2015 saw the largest increase in household income in more than 15 years.
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blog...ince-1998.html
I just don't know what it is with you, that you deny facts even when they're presented clearly right in front of you. I just posted a chart showing there was no difference in gdp growth between Obama's last 6 years and Trump's first 3, yet you deny it. In a previous discussion, you denied that Trump seriously asked about injecting disinfectant to cure coronavirus, even after being shown a video of him specifically saying it.
Before we go any further, please answer this. Are you going to accept all facts presented to you, or are you just going to deny facts you don't like? If you're not going to accept facts, there is no point in discussing this further.
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All you do is make up your own "facts".
From:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public...-Clinton's
Clinton's job approval rating ranged from 36% in mid-1993 to 64% in late 1993 and early 1994.[1] In his second term, his rating consistently ranged from the high-50s to the high-60s.[1][2] After his impeachment proceedings in 1998 and 1999, Clinton's rating reached its highest point at 73% approval.[3] He finished with a Gallup poll approval rating of 65%,[4] higher than that of every other departing president measured since Harry Truman.[5]
Reagan had ALZHEIMER'S when he left office, what the fuck is he gonna do he's got Alzheimer's disease! He can't stay President if he can't remember anything! but he looked into getting to 22 overturned while he was in office. He just gave up. Clinton wanted it, too.
That's what i'm "Babbling" about.
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Lets dial this down a bit, we're getting a little too uppity, and Djoser's not gonna be happy.
Sarchasm (n): The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it
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