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    You are right about Conway. Kelly is no conservative. Plus she is anti-Trump.

    I haven't moved any goalposts. It is a FACT that since the beginning of 2020 Maher went into Election mode and did NOT have conservative guests UNLESS like Scaramucci aka "The Mooch" they had turned on Trump. Since Biden's election Maher has had maybe one or two and has had ZERO be part of the main discussion panel. Despite that I still like the show.

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    Trey Gowdy was on over the summer. Megyn Kelly is a conservative and a Trump supporter. Why do you think she isn't a conservative?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post

    Eagle- Limbaugh almost never had any guests. He had CALLERS.
    He had Trump on as a guest for two hours in October. I also heard Mitch McConnell on his show once.

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    I said ALMOST never. Read Eagle, please READ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    Trey Gowdy was on over the summer. Megyn Kelly is a conservative and a Trump supporter. Why do you think she isn't a conservative?
    Your memory is a bit sharper than mine. I'd forgotten about Gowdy. But neither he nor Kelly nor Conway was part of "The Panel" which is the meat and potatoes of the show. That's not nitpicking. That is where the real discourse and give and take occurs.

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    I shed no tears over "you know who " not being able to tweet on Twitter. In the abstract, I think it healthier for him to tweet and have others fact check and respond. I do have a problem when reputable journalists like Alex Berenson are censored by Twitter. Or Rand Paul. Or others whose views some pot smoking twerp like Dorsey doesn't like or agree with. But the real outrage is the Taliban is free to tweet their hateful garbage.

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    He's not a reputable journalist. He's putting out lies about covid vaccines. Twitter was right to ban him.


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    What about the Taliban ?

    As for Berenson , he has challenged the conventional wisdom about Covid and the Church of the CDC and its High Priest, Fauci. To me , the best solution is to counter anything he posts with better posts.

    If you take the time to actually READ his stuff since Covid began, he has raised several important questions about testing , masking and now vaccines. In FACT , if you actually bothered you would have READ that he ADVOCATES people getting vaccinated. More importantly , he is not alone in raising questions about the Pfizer vaccine. Other reputable scientists have questioned the approval process for a vaccine that inter alia is as little as 50% effective within six months of administration.
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    Idk about people dying from the vaccine.

    It’s fucked up if it has been happening n of course you aren’t alive to tell your story.

    But I know injuries can n have happened

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    That happens with EVERY vaccine. I have posted about the children, thankfully very few , who got polio from the Sabin vaccine. Which is no longer used btw.
    The FACT also is that no vaccine is perfect. None that I know of offer 100% , complete protection. We have known for some time that not everyone ought to get vaccinated. There are people who for various medical reasons are best off not getting vaccinated.
    Neither I nor Berenson created the controversy ( very UNDER reported btw) swirling around the Pfizer vaccine. Questions were raised about it early on in the process. Most of which were stifled by the CDC and the mainstream media. It is also a fact that it was approved ( along with J & J and Moderna ) for Emergency Use. That took it outside the normal drug trial and FDA approval process which usually takes anywhere from 2 to 8 years.
    It is also a fact that Pfizer SAVED a lot of money by going outside the usual process and made a lot of money on their vaccine. This does not mean that there was necessarily anything wrong but it is beyond question that corners were cut and not every i was dotted and not all t's were crossed.
    For just raising questions Berenson was kicked off Twitter. For instance , he has analyzed the data from Israel , the most vaccinated of any country, which says that the Pfizer vaccine has a FULLY protective effect for only SIX ( 6 ) months. And Berenson has repeatedly stated that vaccinated people who get Covid recover more and faster than those who are not vaccinated. For that and other things he is treated as a leper or heretic. He and Zweig have reported on dozens of doctors who would love to speak out about mask mandates and compulsory vaccination but do not dare for fear of losing their jobs, research money and other things.
    It wasn't me or Berenson who completely politicized the medicine. Perhaps the political aspects were inevitable. Nonetheless the fact remains that policies are being imposed without scientific foundation. Assumptions and hypotheses about things like masks are not scientific proof. The most recent study from the University Of Waterloo clearly shows that the ONLY mask that protects the wearer and those around him or her is the N-95. Other masks, even high grade medical surgical masks were far , far less effective. Extended wearing of the same masks has been shown to act as a germ collector. Not just of Covid but other pathogens.
    It is also a FACT that Americans returning from vacations in Western Europe report that life has pretty much returned to normal. And they do not make their schoolchildren wear masks. They are vaccinating but the age for children varies from country to country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    For just raising questions Berenson was kicked off Twitter.
    He got suspended for a week, not kicked off. As of this post composition, you can read tweets from him from about 7 minutes ago.

    Also, remember this below?

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    To reiterate, you're free to go on Parler. Or build your own Twitter to disseminate whatever [dis]information you want. But being that you'll need STEM people that tend to lean to the left heavily: good luck with that!
    "[Y]ou don’t know how science works. At all" - kamiliam

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    As for Berenson , he has challenged the conventional wisdom about Covid and the Church of the CDC and its High Priest, Fauci. To me , the best solution is to counter anything he posts with better posts.
    When you look at the vaccination rates in some states and regions, it's clear that this approach doesn't work. The less vaccine misinformation and anti-vaxx propaganda on the internet, the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    For just raising questions Berenson was kicked off Twitter.
    Did you even bother to read his tweet that I posted a screenshot of?

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    He was just permanently banned from Twitter. Good riddance. People like him, who spread misinformation about vaccines, are part of the reason why hospitals are being overwhelmed with unvaccinated covid patients.

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    He was just permanently banned from Twitter. Good riddance. People like him, who spread misinformation about vaccines, are part of the reason why hospitals are being overwhelmed with unvaccinated covid patients.
    Perhaps you could do what Twitter has refused to do. Rather than just accuse him of spreading "misinformation" can you cite what he has said that was not true ? My understanding is that he has looked at the data and asked a LOT of questions. Some of which make Fauci et. al. very uncomfortable. Many of which question government policy.
    For instance, if it has been proven that those who have had Covid have superior immunity to that provided by the various vaccines then why do they have to be vaccinated ? He has also raised serious questions about mask mandates , especially regarding children . He did not concoct the numbers from Israel that clearly raise serious questions about the strength and efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    Did you even bother to read his tweet that I posted a screenshot of?
    I read it but I don't know the context. I'm not going to opine without more information.

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    He said, based on the clinical trial, the Pfizer vaccine does nothing to reduce the overall risk of death. That is a flat out lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    He said, based on the clinical trial, the Pfizer vaccine does nothing to reduce the overall risk of death. That is a flat out lie.
    He was flat out WRONG ! I'd like to know his basis for saying that. I have HEARD and SEEN him say that vaccination was good and that it lowered the risk of serious illness and death. The studies clearly show that the vaccinated either do not get sick or if they do , have milder and shorter bouts with the virus.

    Possibly he was thrown off by Pfizer and Moderna dissolving their control groups halfway through their clinical trials.
    Both called in their control group who were given a placebo instead of the vaccine. In a "double blind " study neither the administrator nor recipients are supposed to know who is getting what. Both companies offered members of their control groups the real vaccine.
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    Probably because the crime rate is much lower. In Nicaragua, the homicide rate is 11 per 100,000. In the Honduras, it's 43 and in El Salvador it's 51.
    They weren't coming THEN. According to " 60 Minutes" they are coming NOW. People are leaving Nicaragua in droves.

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    I saw that too. Ortega has replaced their democracy with a dictatorship. I worry about that happening here.

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    I saw that too. Ortega has replaced their democracy with a dictatorship. I worry about that happening here.
    You are worried about "What's His Name" becoming a dictator ? Me too. Who knew ?

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    Last week the N.Y. Times confirmed the authenticity and accuracy of Hunter Biden's laptop AND the e-mails contained therein. That was a year and a half after they joined the chorus saying it was just Russian disinformation and after Facebook and Twitter suppressed any discussion. And suspended the account of The New York Post. They also reported that he is being investigated for tax evasion and other crimes ; probably money laundering. I could say a lot more but I do NOT want to rehash the election of 2020 and its aftermath. It's very simple : Joe Biden lied but he always lies so nobody should be surprised.
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    As an immigrant in this country, I feel very lucky to live here compared to my country where you can literally be shot dead without asking just for simply pointing at the president's house. When I see Americans complain that their right to free speech is being taken away, it's usually because they're the type of people that like to say and repeat conspiracy theories and... dumb shit. Therefore, I can't say that I feel the same way. I personally think that we should do more to limit the stupidity in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Last week the N.Y. Times conformed the authenticity and accuracy of Hunter Biden's laptop AND the e-mails contained therein. That was a year and a half after they joined the chorus saying it was just Russian disinformation and after Facebook and Twitter suppressed any discussion. And suspended the account of The New York Post. They also reported that he is being investigated for tax evasion and other crimes ; probably money laundering. I could say a lot more but I do NOT want to rehash the election of 2020 and its aftermath. It's very simple : Joe Biden lied but he always lies so nobody should be surprised.
    Who cares about Hunter Biden or his laptop?

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    Who cares about Hunter Biden or his laptop?
    Literally noone.

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