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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    Is there a law against possession of zip ties?
    I'm seriously asking, is there a reason a "peaceful protester" needs to take police grade zip ties into the capital building?

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    Members of Congress and staffers will have to walk through metal detectors in order to get onto the floor of the US House of Representatives, a senior Democratic aide told CNN Tuesday........Capitol Police had set up metal detectors outside of the House floor as of Tuesday afternoon and all House members, staffers and aides will have to go through them, the aide said. A US Capitol Police source confirmed the measures are in place.
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/12/polit...ies/index.html

    House Republicans Flip Out Over Metal Detectors Installed at Capitol After Riot
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/republ...led-after-riot

    House members who evade new metal detectors will be fined $5,000 and up, Pelosi says
    https://news.yahoo.com/house-members...055400811.html

    A state panel Monday banned the open carrying of guns in Michigan’s Capitol, a week after an armed mob rioted in the U.S. Capitol and following a plot last year to storm the statehouse.
    Moves to ban weapons at the Michigan statehouse have been pushed since April, when protesters opposed to Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s coronavirus restrictions, some armed with long rifles and other weapons, entered the Capitol demanding to be allowed onto the floor of a legislative chamber closed to the public.

    https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...-state-capitol

    Security holes at state capitols: Many allow guns inside, lack metal detectors.......Security measures at state capitols range widely.

    About 30 state capitols employ metal detectors, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Spokesperson Mick Bullock would not elaborate, citing security concerns. On the flip side, according to the Crime Prevention Research Center, a pro-gun research group, about 20 capitols officially allow carrying legal firearms inside.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ws/6627504002/

    Now that’s what I call a hostile work environment!!!

    Apparently one of the congress woman’s panic button was disabled! AOC said she was afraid her Republicans colleagues would tweet her location. Everyday we’re finding out more sickening details. Im truly grateful there’s wasn’t a mass massacre. Even though the loss of life of the few individuals is bad enough.

    I’ll be doing some world peace meditations and prayer this week. I’m praying for a peaceful transition of power and everyone’s safety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    Is there a law against possession of zip ties?
    No, but there are laws against kidnapping people. WTF do you think that idiot was gonna do with those Zip Ties? Chew on them? Make Zip Tie rings?
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    ^He was gonna make rainbow loom bracelets! For his favorite congressmen

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    He was gonna make bracelets for SOME Congresswoman/Congressman. But they wouldn't have liked it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    The conditions of these detention centers were horrific. They were overcrowded, lice infested, with outbreaks of influenza, mumps, and chicken pox; because detainees weren't vaccinated. They weren't even provided with soap or toothbrushes.

    Trump is the one who made the decision to bring criminal charges against everyone who entered the country illegally, with his zero tolerance policy, which is why the detention centers became so overcrowded, and which is why small children were forcibly removed from their parents. Obama and Bush treated illegal entry as a civil offense. There are organizations that find places for these people to stay and ensure they arrive in court for their hearings. Trump wanted all of them to be put in detention centers, when we didn't have the proper resources to properly take care of them.
    Twer it only true. Catch and Release resulted in a very low appearance rate for illegal entrants at their scheduled hearings. And there is a long list of criminals who were released and then committed horrific crimes. Under Bush The Dim , Obama and Trump.

    Btw, illegal entrants are not dumb. They follow the election returns. There is a large group from Honduras currently stuck in Guatemala who expect to just waltz across the U.S. - Mexican border as soon as Biden takes office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elektra Luxx View Post
    I'm seriously asking, is there a reason a "peaceful protester" needs to take police grade zip ties into the capital building?
    NO ! Apparently some of the Fruit Loops thought they would "arrest" Nancy Pelosi , Pence and God knows who else .

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    On the one hand you have these mostly right wing militia types who think it is a good idea to storm the Capitol ; try to kidnap Whitmer ; protest outside state capitols with AR-15s and other stuff that is far beyond First Amendment protected protest. It is nothing but counter-productive from their pov because it has 1. reflected negatively on Trump ; 2. The Libs are trying to paint ALL conservatives as part and parcel with or at least simpatico with these nit wits. And 3. It is being used by Big Tech to stifle dissent and speech that they do not like or agree with.

    Trump made his own "deal with the Devil " by not quickly and forcefully condemning some of these groups and distancing himself from them. Now he's reaping what he sowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moneybags View Post
    Now that’s what I call a hostile work environment!!!

    Apparently one of the congress woman’s panic button was disabled! AOC said she was afraid her Republicans colleagues would tweet her location. Everyday we’re finding out more sickening details. Im truly grateful there’s wasn’t a mass massacre. Even though the loss of life of the few individuals is bad enough.

    I’ll be doing some world peace meditations and prayer this week. I’m praying for a peaceful transition of power and everyone’s safety.
    AOC is FOS. She was never in any danger. All Congresspersons and Senators were evacuated and taken to secure locations as soon as the Capitol was penetrated. But then facts have never gotten in her way.

    I have a better question : Why isn't Mayor Bowser being raked over the coals for turning down all offers of help for the D.C. Police before that attack ever happened ? And again when the Capitol Police Chief called and begged for additional help ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Nancy Pelosi , Pence and God knows who else .
    Nah, they were never gonna catch them. The Secret Service swifted them away immediately, while everybody else hid under the desk. There just weren't enough Secret Service.

    It's just lucky that they didn't get in those rooms.

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    AOC is FOS. She was never in any danger. All Congresspersons and Senators were evacuated and taken to secure locations as soon as the Capitol was penetrated. But then facts have never gotten in her way.
    Look, no offense, but everyone was hiding under their desks, they were indeed in danger, there's video evidence of this. They might have gotten swifted out later, but Pelosi and Pence went right away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziel View Post
    Nah, they were never gonna catch them. The Secret Service swifted them away immediately, while everybody else hid under the desk. There just weren't enough Secret Service.

    It's just lucky that they didn't get in those rooms.



    Look, no offense, but everyone was hiding under their desks, they were indeed in danger, there's video evidence of this. They might have gotten swifted out later, but Pelosi and Pence went right away.
    Not that I saw. They were ALL taken to a secure location and none came in contact with the rioters.

    AOC is FOS because there is ZERO evidence of any collusion buy any Republican Senator or Congressman with the rioters.
    AOC is the one who does not respect her Republican colleagues. She is the fabulist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Not that I saw. They were ALL taken to a secure location and none came in contact with the rioters.

    AOC is FOS because there is ZERO evidence of any collusion buy any Republican Senator or Congressman with the rioters.
    AOC is the one who does not respect her Republican colleagues. She is the fabulist.
    She said she was scared of it, not that it happened. And I'd be scared of it, too. And i DID see video footage of Congress people hiding under their desks. What do you think those rioters were bashing down the doors for, to hand out FLOWERS or something? They had Ill intent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziel View Post
    She said she was scared of it, not that it happened. And I'd be scared of it, too. And i DID see video footage of Congress people hiding under their desks. What do you think those rioters were bashing down the doors for, to hand out FLOWERS or something? They had Ill intent.
    Considering what a snowflake she probably is to begin with then I'm not surprised. But her accusation against Republican members of Congress was pure defamation.

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    Considering what a snowflake she probably is to begin with then I'm not surprised. But her accusation against Republican members of Congress was pure defamation.
    Not if she believed it. No defamation at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziel View Post
    Not if she believed it. No defamation at all.
    WRONG ! That is NOT the standard. It is she knew it was false ; should have known it was false or was so careless that she didn't care it was false she has committed defamation. Her beliefs and feelings are 100% irrelevant . If she ever has to put up or shut up ( don't hold your breath ) her beliefs won't help her.

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    Btw , I read a great name for the January 6 Riot - The Beer Belly Putsch .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    WRONG ! That is NOT the standard. It is she knew it was false ; should have known it was false or was so careless that she didn't care it was false she has committed defamation. Her beliefs and feelings are 100% irrelevant . If she ever has to put up or shut up ( don't hold your breath ) her beliefs won't help her.
    Well, lets see what happens in a courtroom, shall we? If she believed it, it's not a lie. And if it's not a lie, it's not defamation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Btw , I read a great name for the January 6 Riot - The Beer Belly Putsch .
    Not shabby. It's stupid enough to describe it (not to say you're stupid or anything).
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    Twer it only true. Catch and Release resulted in a very low appearance rate for illegal entrants at their scheduled hearings. And there is a long list of criminals who were released and then committed horrific crimes. Under Bush The Dim , Obama and Trump.

    Btw, illegal entrants are not dumb. They follow the election returns. There is a large group from Honduras currently stuck in Guatemala who expect to just waltz across the U.S. - Mexican border as soon as Biden takes office.
    No, most people who were caught entering the US illegally do show up for court.

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...dential-debate

    Trump greatly exaggerates the amount of violent crimes committed by people who are in the US illegally. That's been part of his racist effort to demonize people of color. Illegal immigrants are less likely to commit violent crimes than American citizens.

    https://www.cato.org/publications/im...egal-immigrant

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    No, most people who were caught entering the US illegally do show up for court.

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...dential-debate

    Trump greatly exaggerates the amount of violent crimes committed by people who are in the US illegally. That's been part of his racist effort to demonize people of color. Illegal immigrants are less likely to commit violent crimes than American citizens.

    https://www.cato.org/publications/im...egal-immigrant
    Those are the ones who get CAUGHT. Most show up for the hearings. Many do not.

    What level of tolerance do you have for crime committed by people who are here illegally ? How about ZERO ? How many horror stories do we have to read about illegals who were caught , released and then committed horrific crimes ? Why aren't at least screening and detaining the most dangerous among them ? Why are so many Sanctuary Cities giving zero cooperation to ICE ?

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    I don't agree on crimes committed by anybody. I don't mind someone stealing, like, a loaf of bread because they're hungry (like in Les Misérables), but real crimes, you know? I just think that if all you want to do is come here, raise your kids, and work, WELCOME TO AMERICA! You wanna come here and shoot people, there's the door, pal. We have enough criminals, we're full. We don't need any more. Go be a criminal wherever it is you came from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Those are the ones who get CAUGHT. Most show up for the hearings. Many do not.

    What level of tolerance do you have for crime committed by people who are here illegally ? How about ZERO ? How many horror stories do we have to read about illegals who were caught , released and then committed horrific crimes ? Why aren't at least screening and detaining the most dangerous among them ? Why are so many Sanctuary Cities giving zero cooperation to ICE ?
    the same level tolerance you have for

    • all the terrorists who trespassed inside the capitol yet many of them went home when they should have been arrested on sight.
    • your beloved “leader” committing tax evasion, sexual assault, fraud, spreading communicable diseases, etc. when he should be locked up
    • Elitist Corporate America getting billions n bailouts while they debate on giving $600 to average Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    the same level tolerance you have for

    • all the terrorists who trespassed inside the capitol yet many of them went home when they should have been arrested on sight.
    • your beloved “leader” committing tax evasion, sexual assault, fraud, spreading communicable diseases, etc. when he should be locked up
    • Elitist Corporate America getting billions n bailouts while they debate on giving $600 to average Americans.
    WOW ! You could not be more off base. I immediately condemned the members of the Beer Belly Putsch. I condemned Trump for holding the rally that helped set things off. I hold him partially responsible for what happened. I hope those who broke the law get the max. I have zero sympathy for them.

    I have repeatedly posted that Trump is an asshole ; that I do not like him or his style ( never did ). That said, Tax evasion has never been proven. Neither has sexual assault. His chief accuser has MAJOR credibility problems. Assaulted on an airplane and NOBODY noticed or reported it ? Fraud ? - What are you referring to ? Spreading disease ? Was he tongue kissing a lot of people when he was Covid positive ? He certainly could have and should have done a LOT better in controlling Covid. However we have vaccines thanks to him and his Operation Warp Speed. What ususally takes five years or more was done in months !

    Nobody on this board ; N O B O D Y ! has railed against crony capitalism more than I have. Nobody has criticized corporate rent seeking in Washington, state capitals and City Halls more than I have. Btw, it was Trump who wanted Americans to get $2000 bailout checks ; not $600. That was blocked By Pelosi and the Dems. Leslie Stahl called Pelosi out on it on a recent "60 Minutes ".

    In any event , starting tomorrow , these are going to be Joe's headaches and he'll have to deal with them . In between naps and meds. For a while he'll be able to blame Trump but sooner than he would like, the responsibility will be his. Despite a friendly media holding his hand.

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    Trump waited till the last min to throw in the 2k and he had stipulations n strings attached. It was manipulative on his end and he knew it. Like “agree with me n do exactly what I want or your people won’t get 2k”

    It should have been 2k minimum with zero political strings attached

    Im referring to him sashaying around town when he had covid and was supposed to be in quarantine, holding hella super spreader unmasked gatherings at the White House/rallies leading to multiple people in his administration catching covid (at least one dying)

    Yeah he did push for a speedy response to getting vaccinations out sooner. But he doesn’t get kuddos for doing his job and he wouldn’t have had to rush if he was proactive in the first place.

    Now when it comes to reparations yeah! EVERY American who did not vote for him (and maybe even the ones who did but were brainwashed) should get reparations for the last year of his administration
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    LOL. We ALL deserve combat pay for surviving 2020.

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    LOL. We ALL deserve combat pay for surviving 2020.
    Some of us have actually seen combat. Kindly refrain from making such asinine statements. We deserve something for 2020. Unless it left you bleeding out on the cargo deck of a five ton thinking that was it for you, it wasn’t fucking akin to combat.
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