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    Iím a bit confused about something.

    so, is it a must that you must get fully naked??? Because I donít want to be fully naked, especially in private rooms.

    Like, I wanna dance on stage and get tips on stage.

    I also donít feel comfortable doing private rooms because of things that the clients think they can get away with/my personal safety.

    Is dancing on the stage lucrative enough? Or are private dances are where the money is at?

    My wording is confusing so sorry if Iím not making any sense.

    If I must get fully naked then maybe stripping is not for me, which is a big downer for me, since I would really like to be a stripper rather than other forms of sex work.

    Not being fully naked and not doing private rooms, then Iím good.

    Like maybe the most I can go is topless with/without pasties and a thong, but other than that I would be more cautious about

    There is this one nice girl on YouTube who works in a strip club as a stripper in the US where she could wear a dress! So that would be really nice!! But! Unfortunately, those are not the same rules for every club.

    sorry for the stupid questions

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    I think you should focus on clubs that are not nude if you're concerned about being nude & work at clubs that don't offer that type of private room. Now, I'm not saying it's not possible to make $ by keeping your bottoms on at a nude club. I'm sure at some clubs it happens depending on the dancer. But if you look at every single nude club in America & compare dancers that go full nude versus non nude the full nude girls probably make better $.

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    Welcome softpetals, if it is a nude club then yes, you will have to get fully naked. I'm from the Uk where we spend most of our time walking around in our dance wear trying to sell lap dances. During the night we take it turns to go on stage for usually a three song set, and dance topless for the third.

    Once we have sold a private lap dance we take the customer away from main area and have to dance naked. There is no getting out of it.

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    In most places, if a club serves alcohol, it’s topless only allowed. There are exceptions like (for example) Portland, Miami, East St Louis where it’s both nude and liquor. But just speaking in general.

    There are clubs where dances and even VIP is monitored. Try those.

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    I don't see you making significant money if you're both not working nude and not doing private dances, per your original post. It's kind of like asking if you can make decent money as a bartender while not serving drinks. I'm sure you could make some money in tips on stage, but yes, the real money is made in private dances / VIP rooms, and stage clubs tend to be most lucrative if you're either working naked or a highly skilled entertainer. Like, Atlanta urban clubs, maybe.

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    Full bar means fully nude. Being fully nude in front of strangers is part of the job. Being nude and contact beings big money.

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    ^Yeah, and even if you were doing no- or low-contact dances in a topless bar, which is hard enough to do these days while stringing dances together (customers stop buying when they realize you're a prude), that'd still require you to be alone with the customer. I understand the OP's concerns about safety, and they're valid. Even with security cameras and firm boundaries, you'll eventually have a customer who grabs you or crosses a boundary in some other way.

    I have worked with women who refused to do private rooms and only stripped down to their thongs, and i don't think they made very good money. You're reliant on stage tips at that point, and, well, it isn't the 90s anymore. We've all had instances where we haven't made anything, or have only made a dollar or two, during a set where the club is dead or no one is tipping.

    Remember, OP, you'd have to make enough on stage to cover a house fee and tipouts. If you're only working a four- hour shift, then you may only go on stage every hour or so, depending on the size of the club and how many girls are working. What would you do with your time when you aren't on stage? Sit at the bar and decline dances, or sit in the dressing room? Time is money... even if you make decent stage money after tipout, you've spent most of your time just sitting around, waiting.

    There may be some clubs where it's possible to make good money purely on stage, but those areas are rare. Atlanta comes to mind. But again, that would require a bomb stage show, like mad twerking, pole work, etc. I would be a huge flop in a club like that, to be honest - my stage skills barely extended beyond sexy walking, touching myself, and a handful of tip-rail tricks!

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    You might be able to make a bit of "New-Girl Money" without going nude or doing dances, but that'd run out very quickly.

    Sorry to be a downer, OP! You might want to look into camming.

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    Try a topless only club. You can always just work a couple nights and try it.

    You might even find that in the environment and the anonymity sinking in you don't mind full nude as much as originally thought. Just an idea ( I personally work mostly topless but that is mostly due to regional factors v.s. a preference ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    You might be able to make a bit of "New-Girl Money" without going nude or doing dances, but that'd run out very quickly.

    Sorry to be a downer, OP! You might want to look into camming.
    She doesn't sound interested in getting fully nude though for a camming job though. It just sounds like it's not a fit for her....don't they have bikini bars? There is one in LA where it is stage work only right? Forgot the name. There's also those bikini coffee shops or hooters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by softpetals View Post
    There is this one nice girl on YouTube who works in a strip club as a stripper in the US where she could wear a dress! So that would be really nice!! But! Unfortunately, those are not the same rules for every club.
    Just out of curiosity who is this girl on youtube? She's probably stripping out of that dress at some point, I mean if she was constantly in that dress and wasn't removing any clothes she wouldn't be called a stripper. I worked at a club where we could wear dresses on the floor and on stage, didn't even get topless on stage, but then got naked in private dances.

    It sounds more like you want to be some kind of go go dancer than a stripper tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indiegirl View Post
    She doesn't sound interested in getting fully nude though for a camming job though. It just sounds like it's not a fit for her....don't they have bikini bars? There is one in LA where it is stage work only right? Forgot the name. There's also those bikini coffee shops or hooters?
    Right, some cammers don't go full nude and make good money - there's a higher likelihood due to the volume of potential customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmen_b View Post
    Try a topless only club. You can always just work a couple nights and try it.

    You might even find that in the environment and the anonymity sinking in you don't mind full nude as much as originally thought. Just an idea ( I personally work mostly topless but that is mostly due to regional factors v.s. a preference ).
    Right, but the OP is talking about both non-nude AND not doing any private dances.

    I guess maybe look for a club that does lapdances on the floor? But you'll see the same issues as with private dances... some customers will cross boundaries. This can even happen on stage. I've had customers assault me on stage - it's not uncommon to be grabbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Likethis View Post
    Just out of curiosity who is this girl on youtube? She's probably stripping out of that dress at some point, I mean if she was constantly in that dress and wasn't removing any clothes she wouldn't be called a stripper. I worked at a club where we could wear dresses on the floor and on stage, didn't even get topless on stage, but then got naked in private dances.

    It sounds more like you want to be some kind of go go dancer than a stripper tbh.
    This is a good idea - look for a stage- only club, go-go dancing gig, or even consider waitressing in a club. Some waitresses legit make more than some dancers, and same deal with bartenders. I see no gain in flashing your tits once an hour on stage, making a few bucks, and then waiting around for your next stage show - you may as well waitress or bartend and be busy for your whole shift, potentially raking it in for all hours that you're working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    Right, some cammers don't go full nude and make good money - there's a higher likelihood due to the volume of potential customers.
    I had this perception it was toy shows and talking on cam. Super interesting to hear that. I'd get web cam pop up ads to me with a girl nude or with a dildo when trying to look at porn with these cam sites oddly. I've never entered that area of work so I'm sorry if I sound confused .

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    Quote Originally Posted by indiegirl View Post
    I had this perception it was toy shows and talking on cam. Super interesting to hear that. I'd get web cam pop up ads to me with a girl nude or with a dildo when trying to look at porn with these cam sites oddly. I've never entered that area of work so I'm sorry if I sound confused .
    You're good! I've cammed before, and i lurk on the camming side of SW, so that's the only reason why i know that! It is very common for webcam girls to do toy shows, so you aren't wrong! There's a huge amount of variety, though, and some fetishes don't even necessarily involve nudity, like financial domination. But, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie61 View Post
    ^Yeah, and even if you were doing no- or low-contact dances in a topless bar, which is hard enough to do these days while stringing dances together (customers stop buying when they realize you're a prude), that'd still require you to be alone with the customer. I understand the OP's concerns about safety, and they're valid. Even with security cameras and firm boundaries, you'll eventually have a customer who grabs you or crosses a boundary in some other way.

    I have worked with women who refused to do private rooms and only stripped down to their thongs, and i don't think they made very good money. You're reliant on stage tips at that point, and, well, it isn't the 90s anymore. We've all had instances where we haven't made anything, or have only made a dollar or two, during a set where the club is dead or no one is tipping.

    Remember, OP, you'd have to make enough on stage to cover a house fee and tipouts. If you're only working a four- hour shift, then you may only go on stage every hour or so, depending on the size of the club and how many girls are working. What would you do with your time when you aren't on stage? Sit at the bar and decline dances, or sit in the dressing room? Time is money... even if you make decent stage money after tipout, you've spent most of your time just sitting around, waiting.

    There may be some clubs where it's possible to make good money purely on stage, but those areas are rare. Atlanta comes to mind. But again, that would require a bomb stage show, like mad twerking, pole work, etc. I would be a huge flop in a club like that, to be honest - my stage skills barely extended beyond sexy walking, touching myself, and a handful of tip-rail tricks!
    Generally, I dislike this delusional world these "baby strippers" and "ponderers" come up about the strip club environment. Thinking that every guy who goes in are going to spend lavishly on you without fondling you or even stripping down. That every night means $900+.

    I've talked to a few "baby strippers," from late-teens to those who took the plunge late, that they've miss the "golden era" of stripping and have to work for it nowadays. Even warn about the bad stuff of the job to my civilian girlfriends: the money is there, but you have to get naked on stage, might not get a tip, men groping you for free and breast-fondling during dances etc. Really, some just get discouraged and lose interest while a few took the plunge and flamed out.

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