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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Hmmmm. Let's see. The average electric space heater uses 1500 watts. For just two hours of use that's 3 kilowatt hours per day and about 90 a month. If you use two that's at least 180 additional kilowatt hours. The average 2000 square foot home uses the following average amount of electricity per month depending on where you live. I have listed relatively large population states with long heating seasons :

    Pennsylvania - 857 kwh per month.
    Minnesota - 817
    Utah - 798
    Illinois-755
    Connecticut- 752
    Colorado- 723
    Wisconsin- 703
    New Jersey - 687
    Michigan- 665
    Massachusetts- 638
    New York - 602

    Depending on what kind of rates you pay, space heaters might mean a serious increase in your electric bill. They use a LOT of juice.
    Well, there's always electric blankets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    I own land with natural gas & when oil/gas prices goes up so does how much I make from it. What it makes now, just barely covers the State taxes on it.
    If you're looking to earn passive income from land you own, some other options worth considering are building wind turbines or solar panels on your land, and selling the electricity generated to power companies. You'll have to take the time to research which states and utilities will allow you to do this, and what the costs are. I found this on wind exchanges:

    https://windexchange.energy.gov/market-selling

    Again, make sure you take the time to do the proper research before making any investments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist View Post
    Well, there's always electric blankets.
    There's also wearable ones you can wear for sitting at the desk or on a sofa.

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    Protip- in some states, the landlord will pay for the heat. (Seriously.) If a person is impoverished and cutting it so close financially per month, renting a place with that agreement in the lease is the easiest way to save money. ALSO some states give discounts to elderly renters and others who qualify for heat bill asssistance.

    My personal favorite method of winter heating is woodstove or fireplace but it's not practical for everyone. It is fairly cheap compared to other methods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    If you own your home and have high energy bills, the optimal solution is probably solar panels and battery packs.
    Only if you live in a place with sufficient sunshine AND high enough energy costs that the high costs of solar panels and battery packs are a net savings. If the monthly financing cost of solar panels was less than the average monthly electric bill savings for most homeowners, you'd already see a lot more solar panels on homes right now, but it isn't so you don't.

    Not that this is even remotely feasible for anyone who rents, which probably covers the overwhelming majority of young strippers. Same too with replacing refrigerators as many of those used by strippers are owned by the landlords and even if they could, it would also be a big expense. But hey, at least they can invest in window film and draft stoppers to shave a few bucks off of what is going to be a hard winter for many low income folks.

    To Eric's broader point, we haven't had high inflation for so long that many have forgotten how corrosive it is to the most vulnerable in our population, but they're quickly finding out. When gas prices, housing costs, food prices and even heating costs all spike in tandem, it's a killer for those whose incomes don't keep up, which is almost everybody.

    As Milton Friedman said, “Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon in the sense that it is and can be produced only by a more rapid increase in the quantity of money than in output.” Well here we are. Let's hope that soon some sanity finally returns to the Fed and our leaders who are doing this to us by shoveling never-ending gobs of money into an already recovering economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    Homeowners have control over whether or not they're going to put solar panels on their roof. You just want to argue over politics and bash President Biden's policies.
    Whether or not to install those lovely solar panels or put up a wind turbine is certainly a choice in most areas of the country. With the turbines sometimes the neighbors object. However NOBODY can control the amount of sunlight or wind.

    Ask the Europeans. Why do you think they have gone back to burning coal and are willing hostages to Putin for natural gas ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    Protip- in some states, the landlord will pay for the heat. (Seriously.) If a person is impoverished and cutting it so close financially per month, renting a place with that agreement in the lease is the easiest way to save money. ALSO some states give discounts to elderly renters and others who qualify for heat bill asssistance.

    My personal favorite method of winter heating is woodstove or fireplace but it's not practical for everyone. It is fairly cheap compared to other methods.
    Fireplaces are notoriously INEFFICIENT. Everything I've heard and read says that they let in cold air. This does NOT apply to gas fireplaces.
    Woodstoves are fine afaic BUT they release a lot of carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide. Isn't that what we are supposed to be reducing ?
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    They're saying that Maryland could see "warmer than average" temperatures this winter...and that is FINE by me! Winter is my absolute least favorite season.

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    go to the store, get that flex max spray and puddy to seal your windows and door frames to keep heat from getting out and cold in.

    @eagle Solar and Wind is like Socialism, perfect on paper lousy in reality do to major bad weather in winter. BTW No one mentioned Biden until you did.

    Alaskans off the grid use both extremes solar during the long days, dungfires during long nights, yes i have a friend who used to live there. Even here in Florida roof solar panels on a home only cuts 1/4 of your power usage for a normal family. Those hybrid systems that sell power back each month to FPL, are on warehouse roofs using their wide suncatching surface area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaWest View Post
    go to the store, get that flex max spray and puddy to seal your windows and door frames to keep heat from getting out and cold in.

    @eagle Solar and Wind is like Socialism, perfect on paper lousy in reality do to major bad weather in winter. BTW No one mentioned Biden until you did.

    Alaskans off the grid use both extremes solar during the long days, dungfires during long nights, yes i have a friend who used to live there. Even here in Florida roof solar panels on a home only cuts 1/4 of your power usage for a normal family. Those hybrid systems that sell power back each month to FPL, are on warehouse roofs using their wide suncatching surface area.
    Like most people who are critical of solar and wind, you probably know very little about either. Solar panels work in bad weather too. Wind turbines work better in bad weather, if the bad weather includes strong winds. Iowa already gets close to 60% of their power from wind. Where do you get your information from? Solar panels can provide a lot more than 1/4 of a home's power. During the blackouts in TX, homes with solar panels and battery packs were able to power their homes 24 hours a day, with no electricity coming from the grid. The following is a video made by homeowners in CA, who had a Tesla solar roof installed on their house. At 3:55 in the video, they compare their electric bills from the previous year to the current year, after their solar roof was installed.



    March 2020:
    $6.67 electric charges
    $2.69 sold back to grid

    March 2019:
    $145.22 electric charges

    April 2020:
    $1.16 electric charges
    $16.83 sold back to grid

    April 2019:
    $134.00 electric charges

    May 2020:
    $0.39 electric charges
    76.64 sold back to grid

    May 2019:
    $143.48 electric charges

    The solar roof clearly makes a huge difference in their electric bills.

    Eric tries to get around the ban on politics by bashing President Biden's policies, without mentioning his name. For example, instead of honestly starting a thread titled, "I hate President Biden and Jerome Powell's policies," he dishonestly starts a thread titled "Stagflation is here !", when we're nowhere close to stagflation. I'm not sure why he comes to a forum for females working in the adult entertainment industry, to start political arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    Like most people who are critical of solar and wind, you probably know very little about either. Solar panels work in bad weather too. Wind turbines work better in bad weather, if the bad weather includes strong winds. Iowa already gets close to 60% of their power from wind. Where do you get your information from? Solar panels can provide a lot more than 1/4 of a home's power. During the blackouts in TX, homes with solar panels and battery packs were able to power their homes 24 hours a day, with no electricity coming from the grid. The following is a video made by homeowners in CA, who had a Tesla solar roof installed on their house. At 3:55 in the video, they compare their electric bills from the previous year to the current year, after their solar roof was installed.



    March 2020:
    $6.67 electric charges
    $2.69 sold back to grid

    March 2019:
    $145.22 electric charges

    April 2020:
    $1.16 electric charges
    $16.83 sold back to grid

    April 2019:
    $134.00 electric charges

    May 2020:
    $0.39 electric charges
    76.64 sold back to grid

    May 2019:
    $143.48 electric charges

    The solar roof clearly makes a huge difference in their electric bills.

    Eric tries to get around the ban on politics by bashing President Biden's policies, without mentioning his name. For example, instead of honestly starting a thread titled, "I hate President Biden and Jerome Powell's policies," he dishonestly starts a thread titled "Stagflation is here !", when we're nowhere close to stagflation. I'm not sure why he comes to a forum for females working in the adult entertainment industry, to start political arguments.
    Rotflmao. YOU are the one who keeps mentioning him. Posters other than me are starting to call you out on it.

    I am just stating economic FACTS that you either don't like or refuse to accept. Who is or isn't the current Imbecile In Chief does nothing to change the numbers.

    I am NOT the one announcing that stagflation is here. The Atlanta Fed's forecasts of .5% economic growth coupled with inflation of AT LEAST 4 % predicted through ALL of 2022 equal STAGFLATION.

    Since you are so smart , know everything about everything , especially wind , why don't you tell us what YOU predict for economic growth for the last Quarter of 2021 and for 2022 ? And please tell us what the inflation rate for 2022 will be ? Then we can compare your forecasts with those of the Atlanta Fed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Rotflmao. YOU are the one who keeps mentioning him. Posters other than me are starting to call you out on it.
    I hardly consider OmegaWest unbiased and objective.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    I am just stating economic FACTS that you either don't like or refuse to accept. Who is or isn't the current Imbecile In Chief does nothing to change the numbers.
    No, you're trying to start political arguments. Because President Biden doesn't do exactly as you say, doesn't make him an imbecile, especially after you were so wrong and off by so much in 2010. Millions of Americans have avoided going hungry and falling into poverty, thanks to policies you oppose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    I am NOT the one announcing that stagflation is here. The Atlanta Fed's forecasts of .5% economic growth coupled with inflation of AT LEAST 4 % predicted through ALL of 2022 equal STAGFLATION.

    Since you are so smart , know everything about everything , especially wind , why don't you tell us what YOU predict for economic growth for the last Quarter of 2021 and for 2022 ? And please tell us what the inflation rate for 2022 will be ? Then we can compare your forecasts with those of the Atlanta Fed.
    The unemployment rate is 4.8%. That's not stagflation. We're currently going through a pandemic, that has been made much worse by the policies you support. I'm really not interested in your political arguments, especially since they're not allowed in here, and multiple people here have complained about them. Please remember we are guests in this forum. If you want to argue politics, why don't you go to a forum that was intended for political argument, rather than one that is intended to support women in the adult entertainment industry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    I hardly consider OmegaWest unbiased and objective.



    No, you're trying to start political arguments. Because President Biden doesn't do exactly as you say, doesn't make him an imbecile, especially after you were so wrong and off by so much in 2010. Millions of Americans have avoided going hungry and falling into poverty, thanks to policies you oppose.



    The unemployment rate is 4.8%. That's not stagflation. We're currently going through a pandemic, that has been made much worse by the policies you support. I'm really not interested in your political arguments, especially since they're not allowed in here, and multiple people here have complained about them. Please remember we are guests in this forum. If you want to argue politics, why don't you go to a forum that was intended for political argument, rather than one that is intended to support women in the adult entertainment industry?
    What's wrong with OmegaWest ? Seems like a nice person.

    Let me see if I can follow you. You have rhetorically stomped "You Know Who " to death but you are not being "political ". You sing the praises of government imposed shutdowns but there is nothing political in your heart when you do it. You explain and excuse our current inflation and empty shelves but it's not political. I cite facts and figures that you can't challenge and I am being "political" or trying to pick a fight or start a political argument. Have I got it right ?

    I truly hope somebody gives you a calendar for Christmas or Festivus or whatever. It is 2021 and we'll be going into 2022. As for what I predicted in 2010 based on Fed policy way back THEN , I was wrong. I did not take proper account or didn't see how output and productivity and other things would sop up all the money the Fed was printing back THEN. Almost 12 years ago. This is NOW. We already have inflation of at least 6% ( based on an amalgam of ALL the inflation indices ). Everybody ( except YOU of course ) is spending a LOT more on groceries than last year. That's another thing. How exactly have you dodged that economic bullet ? YOU posted that YOUR grocery bill has not gone up. We could all use the help so please post HOW you did it . I am very hesitant to call you or anyone else on this board a fibber but YOU were the one who posted about YOUR grocery bill with what seemed to be a straight face. Everybody else in the country has seen their food costs go way up. Please share your secrets to help out all the starving dancers on this board lol. We are all paying over a dollar a gallon more on gasoline than last year. Even YOU ! We're averaging about $4 a gallon on the way to $5. If you know about or see something on the horizon that is going to stop that from happening please fill us in. Likewise, home heating costs will be at least 50% more than last year. Energy costs flow throughout the entire economy. Increased energy costs are reflected in the prices for almost everything. Food , clothing , rent , you name it. This is posted WITHOUT pointing fingers or assigning blame by me. You always jump in and claim I am blaming "What's His Name". And btw, "You Know Who " was no genius afaic and unlike over 70 million Americans I NEVER voted for him. To paraphrase Patrick Henry : If that be political then make the most of it.

    Stagflation is low or negative economic growth coupled with inflation. If you have better predictions for economic growth for 2022 than the Atlanta Fed then please share them . I did not tell them to make numerous downward revisions to their growth projections so that it is now down to 0.5%. If you think they are wrong and that economic growth will be better please tell us why you think so. If you still think Yellen et. al. are right and Larry Summers are wrong and that inflation will be transitory ( exactly how long does transitory inflation last btw ) then please tell us why .

    Everyone on this board has to deal with the economy as it is and not how we would like it to be. We all have to decide what to buy and when ; how much to invest in what and where ; whether or not to buy or lease ; stay or move somewhere else etc. etc.

    Nobody on this board has been more political than you. Or more quick to accuse others of "politics" What exactly are you doing here ? Swapping make up tips with the ladies ? Lol. Are you a Light Ivory or a Classic Beige ? Relax. I'm just kidding .About the make up crack. NOT your breathtaking hypocrisy.
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    What's wrong with OmegaWest ? Seems like a nice person.
    His comparison of solar and wind energy to socialism shows his views and biases.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Let me see if I can follow you. You have rhetorically stomped "You Know Who " to death but you are not being "political ". You sing the praises of government imposed shutdowns but there is nothing political in your heart when you do it. You explain and excuse our current inflation and empty shelves but it's not political. I cite facts and figures that you can't challenge and I am being "political" or trying to pick a fight or start a political argument. Have I got it right ?
    You're the one who constantly brings up politics. Every discussion with you turns into bashing Biden or praising Trump or far-right governors, like DeSantis. I only respond to what you post. In the covid thread, you responded to a post I made more than two months ago, just to praise DeSantis, after the disastrous job he did over the summer. I don't "excuse" shortages. I state the fact that there have been major disruptions in the supply chain, and until these issues are resolved prices will continue to go up and there will be occasional shortages. You obsess over money supply and interest rates, while ignoring basic supply and demand issues.

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    I truly hope somebody gives you a calendar for Christmas or Festivus or whatever. It is 2021 and we'll be going into 2022. As for what I predicted in 2010 based on Fed policy way back THEN , I was wrong. I did not take proper account or didn't see how output and productivity and other things would sop up all the money the Fed was printing back THEN. Almost 12 years ago. This is NOW. We already have inflation of at least 6% ( based on an amalgam of ALL the inflation indices ). Everybody ( except YOU of course ) is spending a LOT more on groceries than last year. That's another thing. How exactly have you dodged that economic bullet ? YOU posted that YOUR grocery bill has not gone up. We could all use the help so please post HOW you did it . I am very hesitant to call or anyone else on this board a fibber but YOU were the one who posted about YOUR grocery bill with what seemed to be a straight face. Everybody else in the country has seen their food costs go way up. Please share your secrets to help out all the starving dancers on this board lol. We are all paying over a dollar a gallon more on gasoline than last year. Even YOU ! We're averaging about $4 a gallon on the way to $5. If you know about or see something on the horizon that is going to stop that from happening please fill us in. Likewise, home heating costs will be at least 50% more than last year. Energy costs flow throughout the entire economy. Increased energy costs are reflected in the prices for almost everything. Food , clothing , rent , you name it. This is posted WITHOUT pointing fingers or assigning blame by me. You always jump in and claim I am blaming "What's His Name". And btw, "You Know Who " was no genius afaic and unlike over 70 million Americans I NEVER voted for him. To paraphrase Patrick Henry : If that be political then make the most of it.
    Inflation is not at 6%. You love to exaggerate how bad things are. Whenever you don't like the president, you greatly exaggerate how bad things are. When you do like the president or you like a governor, you greatly exaggerate how good things are. You don't know how much anyone spends on groceries, other than yourself. Sometimes you exaggerate to the point of absurdity. Your exaggeration: "We're averaging about $4 a gallon on the way to $5." Reality: The average price of gasoline: $3.38

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    Multiple people here have complained about you and Rick. Here's one:

    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...=1#post3214004

    One female member of the forum called you out for your gaslighting for Trump, where you repeatedly denied he's a racist after being shown one example after another of his racism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Stagflation is low or negative economic growth coupled with inflation. If you have better predictions for economic growth for 2022 than the Atlanta Fed then please share them . I did not tell them to make numerous downward revisions to their growth projections so that it is now down to 0.5%. If you think they are wrong and that economic growth will be better please tell us why you think so. If you still think Yellen et. al. are right and Larry Summers are wrong and that inflation will be transitory ( exactly how long does transitory inflation last btw ) then please tell us why .
    The Atlanta Fed is not predicting .5% growth for 2022. The prediction is for Q3 2021, and was revised downward due to the covid surges over the summer. Even so, other economists are predicting higher growth:

    https://www.atlantafed.org/-/media/d...kingSlides.pdf

    The main reason for the slowdown in growth is because of the covid surges over the summer, not any government fiscal or monetary policy. If everyone acted rationally and got vaccinated, and took proper precautions for covid, we would have continued to see strong economic growth.


    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    Everyone on this board has to deal with the economy as it is and not how we would like it to be. We all have to decide what to buy and when ; how much to invest in what and where ; whether or not to buy or lease ; stay or move somewhere else etc. etc.

    Nobody on this board has been more political than you. Or more quick to accuse others of "politics" What exactly are you doing here ? Swapping make up tips with the ladies ? Lol. Are you a Light Ivory or a Classic Beige ? Relax. I'm just kidding .About the make up crack. NOT your breathtaking hypocrisy.
    You're gaslighting again. You constantly bring politics into every discussion, and when I respond, you say I'm the one who's being political. I stopped responding to your posts in the thread on interest rates because you could not stop yourself from bringing up politics. You kept on diverting from the subject to Afghanistan and bashing Biden, which has nothing to do with interest rates. When I started a thread on the minimum wage increase at Bank of America, which was clearly intended for anyone here who might be interested in a vanilla job with decent pay, your response was, "That's nice but banks increasing wages will do zip, zero, nada to help with our immediate problems." What does that have to do with anything, other than trying to turn the thread into a political discussion? Maybe you're not even aware you do this.

    I come here to discuss topics of interest, other than politics, since it goes against forum rules, and some of the members here have complained about it. I also come here to meet people. I've met some really awesome people in this forum.

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    You know. I hate when you're right but I did do a bit of " What's His Name " bashing and brought up extraneous issues like a foreign country where things did not go as well as we all would have liked . That was naughty and I should not have done it. I still say you have posted in similar fashion but that doesn't excuse MY doing it. I have redoubled my efforts to try and avoid politics. When do you plan on doing likewise ?

    As to the rest of your post we'll have to agree to disagree. Except the FACT that nationwide food costs are way up over last year.
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    As I said before, you like to exaggerate how bad things are. On average, food is up 4.6 percent over last year.

    https://www.usinflationcalculator.co...united-states/

    Some stores are keeping prices down in order to keep or gain market share.

    https://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Ar...sing-inflation

    I do most of my grocery shopping at Walmart, which may be why I'm not seeing food prices going up.

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    Besides that, wage increases have outpaced increases in the price of food.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/wage-growth

    Wages in the United States increased 9.49 percent in August of 2021 over the same month in the previous year, compared to 4.6 percent for food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    As I said before, you like to exaggerate how bad things are. On average, food is up 4.6 percent over last year.

    https://www.usinflationcalculator.co...united-states/

    Some stores are keeping prices down in order to keep or gain market share.

    https://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Ar...sing-inflation

    I do most of my grocery shopping at Walmart, which may be why I'm not seeing food prices going up.
    According to the American Farm Bureau, this will be the most expensive Thanksgiving in 30 years. The CPI is up 5%. The PPI is up 8.6% since last September. All items for a Thanksgiving dinner are up 4.5%. There is a shortage of roasting pans for goodness sake ! Meat , poultry, fish and eggs i.e. animal protein sources are up 10.5%. Larry Summers says both the 3 month and 12 month CPI are up 5% on an annual basis. Dean Sevin Yetelkin of the Simon Business School at the University of Rochester and other analysts and observers say that the rate of increase in inflation keeps increasing so that the REAL inflation rate for the average consumer could easily be 6%. Mr. Dorsey of Twitter says he expects runaway inflation.

    Are we seeing runaway inflation ? Not yet. But there is a difference between inflation and inflation EXPECTATIONS. This has been noted by the highly respected Katie Nixon of Northern Trust Wealth Management Consumer expectations for inflation are up. Nixon says there is a building consensus that it will take at least a year to work out all the kinks and snags in the supply chain. "What's His Name's " 24/7 Port Plan does nothing to get the containers from the piers and wharves on the road to distribution centers. There are not enough truck drivers and not enough trucks that can legally be driven in California. There are not enough workers to unload the containers and to ship the empties back to Asia.

    On a related note I have posted before about ANTICIPATORY inflation. That comes from prices that were raised by those in the supply chain in the expectation that their costs and expenses will increase. We are already seeing such increases. It also causes Money Managers and hedge funds to put money into things like commodities and real estate. Things made from and/or with those commodities go up in price. Higher real estate and energy prices drive up rents and the homeowner equivalent.

    A perfect example is the supposed Turkey Shortage. Plenty of turkeys were raised on farms BUT the birds have to be trucked to processing plants to be killed, gutted and plucked. Then they have to be trucked to wholesalers , butchers and supermarkets. With both links in the chain there is a shortage of truck drivers. As for the cost of raising the birds they are mostly fed corn to fatten them up and improve the flavor. Corn is way up in price over last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    Besides that, wage increases have outpaced increases in the price of food.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/wage-growth

    Wages in the United States increased 9.49 percent in August of 2021 over the same month in the previous year, compared to 4.6 percent for food.
    They have ? NOT according to the BLS. From September 2020 to September 2021, REAL average hourly earnings DECREASED 0.8%. From August to September of this year they did go up 0.2 %. But REAL average weekly earnings in September 2020 were $394.62. For September 2021, they are at $391.62.

    Eagle: Please do not argue the numbers . Please look them up yourself on the BLS website and if you don't like them please take it up with the bean counters at the BLS.

    Every analyst I have read and heard has said that wages are at least 2 points behind the inflation rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Stoner View Post
    They have ? NOT according to the BLS. From September 2020 to September 2021, REAL average hourly earnings DECREASED 0.8%. From August to September of this year they did go up 0.2 %. But REAL average weekly earnings in September 2020 were $394.62. For September 2021, they are at $391.62.

    Eagle: Please do not argue the numbers . Please look them up yourself on the BLS website and if you don't like them please take it up with the bean counters at the BLS.

    Every analyst I have read and heard has said that wages are at least 2 points behind the inflation rate.
    I've done searches and have seen multiple studies or reports showing wages are way up. I'm not sure why the BLS is reporting differently. Besides the page I linked to, the Atlanta Fed, whom you were perfectly fine with their Q3 gdp growth predictions, show wages up 4.2% as of September.

    https://www.atlantafed.org/chcs/wage...racker?panel=1

    Here's more reports or studies showing wage increases:

    https://www.conference-board.org/pre...rowing-rapidly
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES0500000003
    https://fortune.com/2021/08/09/ameri...es-job-market/

    Many businesses have publicly announced wage increases. I already posted an article showing BoA increased their minimum wage to $21. Walmart announced they will be increasing their minimum wage by $1 to $12, and in some stores will be as high as $17.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/02/b...pay-raise.html

    Amazon is boosting its hourly average starting pay to $18 and in “select locations” sign-on bonuses of up to $3,000 are available.

    https://thehill.com/policy/technolog...ting-pay-to-18
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    I've done searches and have seen multiple studies or reports showing wages are way up. I'm not sure why the BLS is reporting differently. Besides the page I linked to, the Atlanta Fed, whom you were perfectly fine with their Q3 gdp growth predictions, show wages up 4.2% as of September.

    https://www.atlantafed.org/chcs/wage...racker?panel=1

    Here's more reports or studies showing wage increases:

    https://www.conference-board.org/pre...rowing-rapidly
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES0500000003
    https://fortune.com/2021/08/09/ameri...es-job-market/

    Many businesses have publicly announced wage increases. I already posted an article showing BoA increased their minimum wage to $21. Walmart announced they will be increasing their minimum wage by $1 to $12, and in some stores will be as high as $17.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/02/b...pay-raise.html

    Amazon is boosting its hourly average starting pay to $18 and in “select locations” sign-on bonuses of up to $3,000 are available.

    https://thehill.com/policy/technolog...ting-pay-to-18
    Eagle from YOUR past postings it is clear that you understand the difference between REAL dollars and CURRENT dollars. ALL of your links use current dollars. The BLS statistics I cited were in REAL aka CONSTANT aka ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION dollars. The BLS posted percentage increases for hourly and weekly wages using BOTH constant and current dollars.

    Your Conference Board link is at least a month out of date by the way. Did you read this part : " Faster wage growth could have a significant impact on CONSUMER and PRODUCER PRICE INFLATION. If higher costs are passed through to consumers this could lead to a LONGER period of high inflation. "

    Again from YOUR link the only one of the four groups of workers who saw their wages go up higher than the inflation rate were Service Occupations. They have the least effect on inflation usually being at the tail end of the chain from initial producer to ultimate consumer. Production, transportation and material moving had their wages go up just over 5 % in current dollars with inflation of at least 5.4%. Natural resources ( lumberjacks, miners, oil production workers ) construction and maintenance have wages up just over 4% in current dollars.

    YOUR Conference Board link also predicts wage growth of 2.5 to 3% " heading into 2022 ". That is less than half the current rate of inflation.

    Assuming there are takers for those juicy job offers you posted about there will be an inflationary effect from such increased wages.

    YOUR Fortune and N.Y. Times links are both at least two months out of date. I don't mean to be patronizing but it is almost November.
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    We only have inflation numbers through September. Food inflation is calculated using CURRENT dollars, so if you're comparing wage growth to increases in food prices, it makes sense to use CURRENT dollars. Over that past 12 months, food prices are up 4.5%. This year, through September, wages are up 4.2%. There's not much difference between the two. Again, you're overstating how bad things are. If we have a president whom you dislike or hate, and you dislike or hate his policies, you love to overstate how bad things are. If we have a president you love, and/or a president whose policies you love, you greatly overstate how great things are, or were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    We only have inflation numbers through September. Food inflation is calculated using CURRENT dollars, so if you're comparing wage growth to increases in food prices, it makes sense to use CURRENT dollars. Over that past 12 months, food prices are up 4.5%. This year, through September, wages are up 4.2%. There's not much difference between the two. Again, you're overstating how bad things are. If we have a president whom you dislike or hate, and you dislike or hate his policies, you love to overstate how bad things are. If we have a president you love, and/or a president whose policies you love, you greatly overstate how great things are, or were.
    I'm really not trying to be remotely mean here but I'm baffled at how out of touch you seem to be with what's happening right now. Do you gas up a car and/or do your own grocery shopping?

    For starters, CPI went up 5.4% over the same period, not 4.5%. This more than eats up any wage gains, even if we did nothing more than look at broad economic indicators.

    But these broad numbers don't nearly tell the tale. The biggest price spikes are happening with things that people need the most. It is much more expensive to heat a home or fill up a gas tank than it was a year ago. Meat (especially beef, but pork and chicken too) prices have jumped and fresh produce prices have also risen faster than CPI. Rents (an issue for a majority of low income folks) are spiking in many areas as well and good luck if you need to shop for a car right now - you're going to get soaked.

    Even kids' clothes increased at a 5% clip YOY. How fun do you think back to school shopping was this year for hourly workers with kids?

    So no, wage gains for hourly workers are not nearly keeping up with the real cost of living jumps experienced by people who spend a high % of their paychecks on essentials. This is what happens when the powers that be continue to pour gasoline, in the form of never-ending political spending combined with easy money policies at the Fed, on an already heated economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    We only have inflation numbers through September. Food inflation is calculated using CURRENT dollars, so if you're comparing wage growth to increases in food prices, it makes sense to use CURRENT dollars. Over that past 12 months, food prices are up 4.5%. This year, through September, wages are up 4.2%. There's not much difference between the two. Again, you're overstating how bad things are. If we have a president whom you dislike or hate, and you dislike or hate his policies, you love to overstate how bad things are. If we have a president you love, and/or a president whose policies you love, you greatly overstate how great things are, or were.
    YOU are the one trying to pollute an otherwise pristine thread with the dirty filth of politics.

    All I did was post numbers from the BLS that you do not like and you accuse me of being political .

    Echoing Rick's post while trying to avoid personalizing , some of your posts do seem to be detached from the everyday reality that most people are trying to deal with. Food prices overall may only be up 4.5% as a NATIONAL Average BUT some regions especially the Northeast have seen increases well above that. Certain food groups like meat, poultry, fish , eggs and dairy are up over 10%. Energy costs have nearly doubled. Many places in the U.S. are already seeing gasoline at $4 a gallon. In California many places have gas prices near $5 and some isolated areas have it over $7 a gallon. The heating season is just starting and natural gas prices are already through the roof and home heating oil is already over $3 a gallon RETAIL. Children's clothes have seen increases of as much as 10% over last year in certain regions. This hurts because young bodies keep growing and they often need new clothes at least every year. Sometimes more depending on growth spurts and available "hand me downs". Children's clothes are UP 5.5% for Boys and 5.6% for Girls. Shoes for both are up 5.7%. Men's pants are up 11% ; ladies dresses 15.8 % and WINTER coats 8.4%. Fashion retail is up overall 7.4%.

    And as noted higher energy costs affect prices throughout the entire economy.

    Some of the biggest increases year to year have been in rents : The 16 states with the largest year to year increases are :

    Texas - 7.13 %
    N.Y. - 7.24
    Pa. - 8.55
    N.J. - 9.1
    S. Carolina - 9.73
    N. Carolina-10.47
    Virginia - 10.5
    Oregon- 12.67
    New Hampshire - 14
    Washington- 15.41
    California - 17.36
    Georgia - 21.18
    Arizona - 23.65
    New Mex. - 28.3
    Florida - 32.14 - (Must be because of some sociopathic policy of DeSantis lol )
    And the winner is Nevada at 34.1%

    So we have food , clothing , shelter ( including heat ) and gasoline all up a LOT over last year. Please tell us again just where exactly I am exaggerating the bad news ?
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