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    Angry AVN stars going out of biz Jan 1

    https://twitter.com/APAGunion/status/1466218783819841539?s=20

    So AVN Stars will no longer be able to take payments after Jan 1, 2022 Another adult platform losing their banking.
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    I don't even have a reaction, I am too shocked and too angry at this point.
    And I feel hate towards those who made this happen. Who won't let us live. Like I never felt before.
    I do not feel hate in general, unless it's someone harming other living beings. Well, now it is the case.
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    Default Re: AVN stars going out of biz Jan 1

    Just got a Yahoo! e-mail notification (from AVN Stars) on my phone right before I saw this thread. Wow!

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    I'm so puzzled why OnlyFans were able to get a payment processor but AVN didn't. Maybe they decided it's not worth the trouble? I'm pissed and feel stupid for putting so much confidence in the site and steering other creators and my fans there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    I'm so puzzled why OnlyFans were able to get a payment processor but AVN didn't. Maybe they decided it's not worth the trouble? I'm pissed and feel stupid for putting so much confidence in the site and steering other creators and my fans there.
    Someone posted on Twitter that they didn't want to put the work into the site to make it compliant with Mastercard's new rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    I'm pissed and feel stupid for putting so much confidence in the site and steering other creators and my fans there.
    same, this is so upsetting. they have the the nicest, cleanest user interface of all fan site platforms. onlyfans is just fugly. how supremely disappointing that AVN of all platforms doesn't care to be mastercard compliant.
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    I just closed my account because I don't have time for that. It's just an pity..
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    I’m really upset about this, AVN is my only platform. I deleted everything else ages ago

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    i feel sick. i am seriously fucking worried about the entire adult industry at this point. the drama around boleyn models have even furthered my suspicions i am really starting to panic

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    I have $9.60 stuck in there, my minimum payout is $41. Not gonna hit that, so does anyone know how I can tip or transfer that to another creator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatBBW View Post
    I have $9.60 stuck in there, my minimum payout is $41. Not gonna hit that, so does anyone know how I can tip or transfer that to another creator?
    They will have to pay you out no matter what by law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarletl View Post
    I’m really upset about this, AVN is my only platform. I deleted everything else ages ago
    In this industry, you absolutely can't afford to put all your eggs into one basket

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    They will have to pay you out no matter what by law.
    Good luck enforcing it. I remember when YouKandy went down. They owed me $100 and many other models a LOT more. As far as I know, nobody ever saw a dime of it.

    I sent you a PM, btw!

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    does anyone recommend fansly or loyalfans over OF? i don't really trust these new sites and they are all equally fugly and clunky looking in comparison to AVN, but fansly has that attractive 85%.. i have some beef with OF so i am reluctant to rejoin but will if i must.

    i am looking for features similar to AVN's group & paid unblock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by misspandora View Post
    In this industry, you absolutely can't afford to put all your eggs into one basket
    I never used to when I was full time. But in the last few years I ventured into other projects and dwindled down my sites. I have NF open but I prefer fan sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minibagel View Post
    does anyone recommend fansly or loyalfans over OF? i don't really trust these new sites and they are all equally fugly and clunky looking in comparison to AVN, but fansly has that attractive 85%.. i have some beef with OF so i am reluctant to rejoin but will if i must.

    i am looking for features similar to AVN's group & paid unblock.
    fansly is nice features wise but traffic wise it's not great - love it or hate it OF is a household name so when I give guys the option of my fansly or my OF, 99% of the time they go with OF cause they know it

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    Quote Originally Posted by PixiieGirl View Post
    fansly is nice features wise but traffic wise it's not great - love it or hate it OF is a household name so when I give guys the option of my fansly or my OF, 99% of the time they go with OF cause they know it

    We owe no loyalty to any company, cause none of them feel any loyalty to us. We have to exploit them as much as they do us. Find 4 sites where your content or personality can profit the best and rake in as much money as you can before that site flops. wanes or disappears.

    If you have a team in place, who can answer messages, edit your content, do the marketing and upload vids & pics for you. Then build that team and be on EVERY site possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    We owe no loyalty to any company, cause none of them feel any loyalty to us. We have to exploit them as much as they do us. Find 4 sites where your content or personality can profit the best and rake in as much money as you can before that site flops. wanes or disappears.

    If you have a team in place, who can answer messages, edit your content, do the marketing and upload vids & pics for you. Then build that team and be on EVERY site possible.
    oh I totally agree, Im on 4 fansites tho probably leaving one as I dont trust it

    I just find from networking with a lot of newer models who only do fansites - a lot will join one site or another and avoid OF but soon come to realise because guys have never heard of fansly or w/e they're less likely to sign up to it than OF

    100% with you on being everywhere you can, just sharing my personal experience of how hard it is to get guys off OF and onto other things haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by PixiieGirl View Post
    Im on 4 fansites tho probably leaving one as I dont trust it
    do you mind sharing which site you don’t trust? i don’t like the vibe of loyalfans for whatever reason, their landing page looks tacky to me. Onlyfans is my top contender and probably Fansly too
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    Quote Originally Posted by minibagel View Post
    do you mind sharing which site you don’t trust? i don’t like the vibe of loyalfans for whatever reason, their landing page looks tacky to me. Onlyfans is my top contender and probably Fansly too
    id like to know too

    if i don't like the way a site looks.. pass. AVN gave me bad vibes and I never uploaded. Honestly every site that gave me a bad vibe I quit putting time into and sure enough they all folded.

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    I'm hesitant to post about this new one coming up, but who knows maybe it'll last beyond two weeks. Playboy is about to launch their own subscription site called Centerfolds and Cardi B is the creative director. Basically she's the brand ambassador.

    The new platform, similar to that of OnlyFans, will allow content creators to interact directly with fans – and presumably paid subscribers – of their page. The Dream infrastructure will effectively serve as the technological backbone of Centerfold.

    There will be an e-commerce connection with the Playboy brand attached to the platform also so users can purchase products and merchandise associated with the historic brand. Cryptocurrency usage and NFT applications are also reported to be featured on the site.


    Introducing the FIRST EVER Creative Director In Residence at the legendary @playboy, it’s ME!!!” Cardi wrote on Instagram. “Joining the @playboy family is a dream and I know y’all are going to love what we put together. I’m startin this party right as the Founding Creative Director and a founding member of CENTERFOLD the new creator-led platform from Playboy coming soon!!” she continued, adding, “We’re going to have soooooo much fun.”
    https://www.billboard.com/culture/li...235005353/amp/

    Who knows it might bring in some money even if for a little while. Excuse the cynicism, it's been a rough week.
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    Fans love OF. I go where the fans and the money is. Men love OF so much that 140 million of them have signed up to it and made it the biggest porn company in the world surpassing MindGeek/Pornhub and did it by putting all the porn behind a pay wall.

    In general, I avoid platforms that only accept crypto. Less than 1% of money made with online porn is with crypto. Takes to long to make a purchase with it the first time, so the click through rate for a sale is horrible.

    I saw the Playboy endeavor and shall be interesting to see if the new generation of Hefner's can make it a successful brand again. Wondering is Playboy still on the stock market, might invest a few hundred if it is. For the most part over the past 20 years Playboy has not been able to be a major player with online porn, maybe this will be a pivotal moment for them.

    Adult Empire has launched Fantasy.club and is offering $1000 bitcoin to the first 1000 performers who sign up and do 40 hours of live cam in December.

    I had high hopes for Peach.com since it was being launched by Chaturbate but they have done very little to improve the site since it launched.

    Xvideos will be doing their switch to become a place to sell individual vids at the end of December I think.

    Tons of opportunities out there these days, going to build out an external hard drive with about a 100 vids, descriptions and keywords ready to go and upload for new endeavors I want to make a go of. Started just putting Samantha38g on all of them instead of my full Samantha38g.com url.
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    hmm i'm a little concerned that my Fansly application was just approved in 1 minute flat. someone was able to read my required handwritten note that quickly? even though Onlyfans keeps rejecting my applications, i feel a little better about that somehow (that's what happened last year too)...

    one thing i will really miss from AVN is that we have a $500 PPV limit. i remember now OF has put a cap on their tip & ppv limits. so does this mean if i want to sell a $500 msg that would require the customer to tip me $100 5x or $200 2x + $100 (whatever the tip limit is)?

    for those who do findom on OF/fansly, has receiving multiple amounts in a row from the same custie been a problem for anyone? it was a problem for me last year when i was still on OF (finsub's credit card reversed all of his transactions, slowly over time) and i am reading that some OF creators were given temporary reduced limits for ppv/tips due to 'suspicious payment activity'. it seems like getting redflagged could easily happen if i want to sell a highpriced ppvs (over the max limit) or if we play various drain games via tip/ppv involving multiple payments in a short period of time. Fansly doesn't seem to have any limits at least but still seems like it could cause problems. i have had zero issues on AVN so far... i really hope they change their mind </3
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    Quote Originally Posted by minibagel View Post
    do you mind sharing which site you don’t trust? i don’t like the vibe of loyalfans for whatever reason, their landing page looks tacky to me. Onlyfans is my top contender and probably Fansly too
    I wasnt gonna publically say as I was trying to organise a Q&A with the site to alleviate some fears myself and other long term models had - but given up on that today after yet another promised date passed and nada - frisk.chat - theyre not transparent at all about anything, fees on payout options, chargebacks etc - they've also been promising a site update since july 2020 which has yet to materialise (had 3 "due dates" pass now) and a lot of the features dont work right (it's always "thatll be fixed in the update"). They've also had two major security issues - the last was in august & involved multiple models accounts being hacked, we still dont have the ability to use 2-factor authentication despite this (again, "coming in the new update"). Ive been communicating with various members of the site including the owner and its just false promise, question avoiding, and passing me onto other places who never reply. I strongly suspect that arent mastercard compliant - they said they are but couldnt give me details on how our content is pre-moderated, and why they're saying in the next ToS update (which was meant to come this week, but didnt) theyll need to ban some content types due to mastercard when the mastercard changes have been in effect for months now.

    generally I'd just avoid, tried to resolve all this and it's just not gone well - "for sex workers by sex workers" was very much how they marketed but now they're just as non-transparent as other sites. plus theres next to no traffic anyway & Ive had multiple issues of subs there being double/triple charged. Oh and when the last security breach happened they didnt inform buyers of the site - and the site was down for a week to fix it - lots of very angry guys as they lost 1/4 of their subscription time with zero communication or any offer of anything back. The hacked models took 3 weeks to get their accounts back and again - nothing for the subs who paid for a month and got one week.

    sorry I needed to rant all that lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutie101 View Post
    I don't even have a reaction, I am too shocked and too angry at this point.
    And I feel hate towards those who made this happen. Who won't let us live. Like I never felt before.
    I do not feel hate in general, unless it's someone harming other living beings. Well, now it is the case.
    I feel just the same. I just made a photoshoot and boom - this shit ;(
    I really liked AVN stars, I agree with minibagel - their layout is neat(that's why I preferred them to OF)
    Now they are only promotional platform, for interaction, like some stupid facebook lol
    That thing made me nervous, I don't want to think if it might affect other sites, and I cant help but think about it.
    I don't wanna do another job! I like this one, wtf.

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