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    Is anyone using this? Having success with femdom and fetish vids? Do tell!

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    I had high hopes for the site but the traffic for me is just not there.

    I don't understand why they are no longer linked with clips4sale. It could have been so good, but they won't even let me mention it on my c4s page.

    I have much better luck at OnlyFans.


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    I have a friend who is pushing as an alternative to OF, not sure how well it's gone for her though.
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    I gave it a good shot... especially since it was C4S's (is it not, anymore?) and i think they're a great company...
    But for some reason, it just never took off. Low traffic, and the site navigation could be better. I still update free contact on there from time to time, but my fanbase just isn't into the site.

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    I'm trying it out now but having terrible trouble uploading *any* video. Each time I try, I get a message that reads "Network error, failed to upload your video". Any ideas?

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    Neil did a zoom & stated that it was completely separate. Have no idea why he built out a separate & competing site. Funny how it went up shortly after announcing that PH was taking over the admin duties of C4S. Surprised they didn't have him sign a non-compete. It all seems confusing.

    After being told repeatedly that it is far superior to OF, I find it the opposite. It is hard to fill out the w-9. Once again we are expected to drive all the traffic to a new site. Which personally, found if I direct my social media traffic to several sites that are similar that I don't make money. I do best when concentrating on one site at a time. Working all of them full time is impossible & it is hard to be a success working any job part time.

    And why should I take a hit in income to help some rich guy out with a new endeavor? I do very well on OF, my MC site & SM. It's not like we ever really get rewarded for building up someone else's company or any stock options.

    We also have to consider our customer base & how they feel used if we ask them to sign up & spend money on site after site after site.
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    I was very excited until I found out they made it separate from clips4sale. Really stupid of them not to leverage that traffic. That's a complete dealbreaker.


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    I'm going to give it a try only because a few other people in my niche (hypno audio) are seeing success with it. Only fans was a complete fail for me.

    So far, support has been good and I'm doing a one on one zoom call to figure out my video issue today. I'll report back!

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    Going well so far, I have my first subscriber and got the video issue fixed.

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    Any updates on this?

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    It works good you have to drive your own traffic, try it

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    I'm still super disappointed by the fact they aren't linked with c4s but I've changed my mind about the site.

    They are beginning to get some internal traffic, I think mainly because some popular dommes have joined. I'm getting more signups now so I'm adding it to my uploads when I sell clips and doing some posts for my members (mainly vid previews). I put my domme content there. It's pretty easy for me to just make a duplicate post when I add things to Onlyfans, still is more traffic on Onlyfans for me. Also unlike Onlyfans, the posts are searchable and they have a directory where your posts and videos can be seen and searched.

    They do have some great features though, pay per minute video calls, the clip store, ability to do paid messages with a different price for each member or guest, or for free. (Great way to shut up a non-spender and make them either pay or not be able to talk).

    I think it's now worth a try, especially if you have domme content. I prefer interacting with submissives so it's been a good place so far for me.


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    I cannot for the life of me get any traffic here, I have tried so much but I still can't seem to get any traffic. I've had 3 subscribers since around June 2021. On AVN I was always ranked pretty high and made a really good amount of money, OF has been alright not as good as AVN, but LF is just dead for me. I keep trying but I get nothing. I am a Humiliatrix, shame I don't do better with the traffic the top models provide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justsometwat View Post
    I cannot for the life of me get any traffic here, I have tried so much but I still can't seem to get any traffic. I've had 3 subscribers since around June 2021. On AVN I was always ranked pretty high and made a really good amount of money, OF has been alright not as good as AVN, but LF is just dead for me. I keep trying but I get nothing. I am a Humiliatrix, shame I don't do better with the traffic the top models provide.
    I've noticed if I go live for a few minutes it will gain me a few new guys.

    Also they have an awesome feature where you can upload a promo video that will automatically play when you are live if you pause the stream. I'm working on a video to use for that, that highlights what I offer and some previews of my vids I have for sale. (Mute your mic when away if you do that unless you want to talk to them with audio). This makes you available for private sessions if they click but you don't have to sit there actually on cam. I leave my audio muted usually unless they go private.


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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    I've noticed if I go live for a few minutes it will gain me a few new guys.

    Also they have an awesome feature where you can upload a promo video that will automatically play when you are live if you pause the stream. I'm working on a video to use for that, that highlights what I offer and some previews of my vids I have for sale. (Mute your mic when away if you do that unless you want to talk to them with audio). This makes you available for private sessions if they click but you don't have to sit there actually on cam. I leave my audio muted usually unless they go private.
    I think this is my downfall, I used to exclusively cam then switched to only videos, I don't offer any cam shows or phone sessions. I keep trying to make myself cam, but I absolutely hate it and just cannot make myself do it. I know if I offers live stuff that I'd do better, especially after 10 years of doing this but...just the thought makes me want to slam my face into a wall. I guess I have no right to complain

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    So they have made their logo the colours of Ukraine flag. Good or bad for the site? Are other brands doing this too? I'm not sure much traffic they have from either Ukraine or Russia so I have no clue what to think about it. In my experience most users come on pornsites to escape the harsh realities of the world. I do not see any other porn sites doing this.... Any body have any insight?

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    Ok that looks a whole new logo, new font ...new everything ? Confusing! That makes me think the site made bigger changes than that. Really very sad for the Russian models. I imagine this behaviour of sites will potentially trickle down to the users being rude or hostile to Russian models also

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    It does suck for the Russian models, but financial sanctions are better than actually starting World War 3. And while it's true that some people seek out adult entertainment to escape the world, there are some things that are pretty inescapable. If you check out cam sites with public chat, you can see that Russian models are getting hit with questions/jokes/jabs about the situation. It's unfortunate, but when you live in a country (that isn't the US) that is actively invading another country, repercussions are bound to happen.

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    Onlyfans did it too. I suppose they’re trying to show some solidarity or something. I think it’s weird personally.


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    So they have made their logo the colours of Ukraine flag. Good or bad for the site? Are other brands doing this too? I'm not sure much traffic they have from either Ukraine or Russia so I have no clue what to think about it. In my experience most users come on pornsites to escape the harsh realities of the world. I do not see any other porn sites doing this.... Any body have any insight?

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    Take into consideration that most of these sites are owned & ran by men from Ukraine. Stan from model/fan centro & Leo who owns OF/MFC are both Ukrainian. Lot of tech people behind the scenes in porn, also from Ukraine. Natalie formerly of Model Centro & now with Mojo hosting lives in the Ukraine & I am worried for her.

    And I think quiet a few cam studios are based out of Ukraine too, the adult industry as ya'll see has lots of ties to that Country. And since so many of the payment processors & cam sites are based out of Cypress has me concerned too.
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    What's your concern with cam sites that are based here? Partly its due to favourable business tax rates but also, because Cyprus is part of the EU it makes international business simpler. There are tons of tech people from Ukraine and Russian speaking countries out here as well as Israelis, Syrians, Brits, Chinese. It's a real melting pot of cultures so Cyprus stays relatively neutral.

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    Cyprus has its own issues. Half of it is occupied by Turkey and while it's not an all-out war situation like Ukraine, Turkey isn't an EU member and there are tensions. Half of the country is a disputed area, with Turkey claiming it and the international community maintaining that it is an illegal occupation, and there's a UN DMZ between the two halves.

    Now, granted, I don't live in Cyprus, but I have visited. It's true that there are people from all over who work there, especially during tourist season. It's a popular place for Brits and Europeans to visit and the seasonal workers are frequently from Eastern Europe. However, racism, especially against Cypriots was rampant and weirdly open. Knowing I was North American, a shocking number of people felt super comfortable telling me how lazy and animal-like they thought Cypriots were. I only visited the half under the control of the government of Cyprus.

    Anyway, I'm not super-informed about the current situation there, but there's a certain amount of potential inherent stability in a country that is split in two because of an illegal occupation by a country whose president is not much better than Putin in terms of human rights and respect for international law.

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    I've been living in the government controlled Republic for 4 years now and for sure there are tensions but its kind of a situation where it seems worse the further away you are. Hundreds of people commute across the border between North and south every day as well as over 10k people living and working in the buffer zone itself. Since covid began the border hasn't been as open but the country lends each other medical support and electricity when needed, its not a North Korea South Korea kind of divide.

    Turkey isn't an EU member but it is a NATO member which Cyprus is not so I guess there is interest from lots of different sides to keep peace here. Again, before covid it looked like real progress was being made in permanently opening the borders but sadly everything has stagnated.

    For sure you're right about the racism issue, half the Cypriots I know have an irrational fear of black people (they insist it's not racist, just that they're not the same). I've heard people calling Cypriots lazy, it's mainly English or western european I hear speaking in this way but I've put it down to ignorance or just a lack of experience with the culture I find. Siga Siga is a really common phrase, it means slowly slowly, it basically amounts to relax, things will get done. The biggest culture shock for me was getting used to lateness and understanding that tomorrow didn't actually mean tomorrow, just sometime soon.

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    One of my favorite dancers is a Cypriot, I will ask her what she thinks about the modern situation. We have discussed the amazing history of the island several times, but never the present. And she definitely isn't lazy!
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    I don't see why you'd be worried about local cam sites. Reasons include low corporate tax rates and the ease with which foreign companies may operate now that Cyprus is a member of the European Union.

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