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    ok this is like my 4th night onthe job on wends i totally froze up and freaked out on stage i ended up just crawling a5ound while the people laughed at me while i made a fool of my poor self. worst off i didn't get a single dance.. althought some guy offered to boink me for 20$. cheep sick bastard !!!! augh, anyhooo, i need to pay back 120. to the club and i need to bust my rear to make this worth it. how do i get a darn dance and what do i do when i get one... i am getting desprate here. i need to learn to relax a bit on stage, i know this but i also need to learn how to sell my dances..
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    [boobies] i need to make the big $$ my damn check wa short and am scared i will end up spending more $$ getting there in gas then i will end up making hellp!!!!!!

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    there is a ton of advice about this in hustle hut and a great article in the hustling advice forum

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    hello i just started too hun, and my advise is smile and look confident if you screw up smile and move on like nothing happened, going up to guys is hard but just take a deep breath and go up to someone you think looks nice and ask how he is doing to tonight. go from there tell him you are new and would love for him to be on of your firsts for dances the worst he can say is no if so tell him you will stop by later. the key thing here is to smile and make eye contact when on stage that is what will sell yorself so to speak lol. lots of luck
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    Hi Sophia, I was in sales for years. The most difficult time to get an order is when you really really need one. Customers sense that and want to go with someone who is a proven winner, not a loser. Youre probably acting too desparate and turning off your prospects.

    Act like you dont give a shit if you dance for them or not. I dont mean be a bitch. Just try to develop the air that the potential customer should be thrilled that you would allow him to dance with you. If you come across like youre begging for business its a turn off.

    Just an opinion from a Strip Club Junkie

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    you sound fusterterated and I am sorry.

    It must be really hard to go to work to earn money and not to be making any.

    I am not an expert so my advice isn't worth much at all. I would just try to be optimistic and try and be happy and keep moving around. Maybe focus some energy to a good stage show. Look at the other girls see what they are doing and try and do somwthing different, do something to stand out. I have spent money on a girl before because her custume was different and unique or she played a song that I liked and haven't heard in a while.

    I know its hard to be happy and optimistic when things arn't going your way. I also cannot imagine how hard it is in your line of work. You get dressed up (I mean make up and all, I am sure that takes a lot of time) Walk around in high hells and lingerie and get intimate ( I think lap dances are intimate but others dont) with complete strangers. It must be very awkward.

    I don't know what else to say. I really feel for you.

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    you are so sweet redbeard!

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    I'm sorry they were laughing - that's awful.

    Starting out it took me a while to understand that you really don't have to do all that much when you're up on stage. Believe it or not, you're naked. They already love you. So take it nice and slow.

    The more confident you are about yourself, the less likely you will freak out on stage. Don't try to be like any other dancer when you are up there. The very best thing you can do to get dances and put on a great stage show is tap into that sexual side of yourself. You have to put the $$ thoughts in the back of your head and the sexy side of yourself out there for everybody to see.

    As far as making the house fee, try going in early. A lot of times the house fee is less and you'll have more time to make money if you go in early and stay late. Getting the hang of things on the day shift can be a lot less intimidating too.
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    SophiaR, club customers can "smell" desparation, and usually react to it by trying to take advantage of the situation (i.e. requesting low priced 'extras'). It's imperative that no matter what you're feeling on the inside that you exude an aura of confidence, beauty, sexiness and even aloofness while you're working in the club. After all, you're much more beautiful and sexy than any girl who would date these guys in real life, and they are expected to PAY for that privelege!

    From a pragmatic standpoint, dancing income is, very simply put, a 'hit or miss' situation. There are going to be nights when you come away from the club with gas money. There will be other nights when you will earn MAJOR bucks. Even experienced girls at upscale clubs face the possible situation of not earning enough on a particular night to cover stage fees and tipouts in today's rough economy.

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    I don't. I was hesitant to say anything, but what melanie says bothers me. I am not saying she is wrong, she may be right, but it bothers me.

    Confidence is important, yes that is true.

    When I went to clubs and I met a girl that had the attitude like I am better than anyone you'll get in real life and that it is a privilidge for you to let me dance for you. Well I wouldn't have anything to do with her.

    I hope that I don't sound like a jerk. Of course I go to a club to spend money on a beautiful girl that I want to dance for me.

    If I go to a club, I am planning on spending money. I won't spend money on a dancer that thinks that I am lucky or priviliged to have this girl dance for me.

    Who knows maybe thats what they all think, but they certainly didn't make me feel that I was priviliged to pay them to dance for me.

    I am sorry if this sounds mean or rude. I was really hesitant about saying this.

    I just think that if your having trouble making money that thinking like that won't help things.

    When I went to clubs I was rather selective with you I got dances from and very selective who I went into the VIP room. So if its anyway I think that the dancer should feel fortunate that I want to spend money on her. When there are other girls around and other clubs around.

    I am really sorry if this comes off as mean or rude, but I felt that it needed to be said.

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    I think what Melonie is trying to say is that she needs to feel that inside to bring out the confidence in herself but not so much that it comes across as cockiness....there are girls that are so hot but have a stick up their a** and I've found that they make their money by volume and not by quality...I think its always better to have a great personality and if a guy likes your look he will get more dances from you than if you were a snob...after all everyone is supposed to be having a good time...I treat it like I am out at a club, having the time of my life, and as an added bonus, I am getting paid to listen to good music, get a little tipsy, dance around, meet cool people, etc...

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    Confidence, Yes. I am better than you, No.

    And some of us are not there just because we cant get someone that looks any better outside the club. Some are there because they want to have fun.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck
    Remember HC, "NO" only means "NO" when she says it..... LMAO

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    I have to agree with redbeard and happy camper on the "attitude" thing.

    Just like clients can sense a desperate, over-eager dancer... we can also sense an arrogant, "I'm so hot you should tip just because I am talking to you" dancer who is approaching you solely for what you might have in your pockets.

    Granted, the name of the game is to separate the client from his money But that doesn't mean you have to come across as a coldhearted, calculating mercenary.

    The best advice I can give you is to tell you what turns me on as a long-time regular -- a dancer who approaches me with a smile and treats me like a PERSON, not like a wallet. She knows what I want, I know what she wants, but I appreciate she is making the effort to establish a human connection with the client.

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    Hi Sophia, I was in sales for years. The most difficult time to get an order is when you really really need one. Customers sense that and want to go with someone who is a proven winner, not a loser. Youre probably acting too desparate and turning off your prospects.

    Act like you dont give a shit if you dance for them or not. I dont mean be a bitch. Just try to develop the air that the potential customer should be thrilled that you would allow him to dance with you. If you come across like youre begging for business its a turn off.

    Just an opinion from a Strip Club Junkie

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    So THAT's why my rather non-aggressive approach works! I do quite well by just approaching guys and having a good time. They almost always wind up asking me dances. Last night for example, I was busy all night, it was fairly busy in the club. I didn't ask one guy for a dance - every single one asked me. In fact, I only even approached one, the rest approached me as I was coming back on the floor from dancing for someone else. It is true that it is always easier for me to sell when there's that momentum. Guys always seem to want the girl who is hard to catch.

    Regarding the 'act like you don't give a shit' comment, I can see that as well. If I'm hanging out with a guy, whether or not I was the one who asked for the dance, I never do that hard sell thing or try to tell guys how great it's going to be. Kinda like they can take it or leave it, and they usually take it. I guess they get curious when a girl doesn't really try to talk up her 'skills' when asked how is the dance upstairs.

    Sophia, stay busy-looking. Don't sit or stand too long in one spot. Go talk to guys. Just walk up with a smile and ask how they're doing, if they're having a good time. If sitting on their laps on the main floor is allowed at your club, sit on their laps and ask how they are. Ask for their name, if they're from the area. Tell them your name. Mention you just started dancing. They'll probably start asking questions about you, so answer just enough to keep interest going. Be friendly and open. RELAX. If they ask how you're doing, tell them great! or fabulous!, never ok or fine or good. Put your hand on his knee or arm, slightly caress his arm/hand or top of his thigh while you're talking. After a song or two, lean in and tell him sweetly you'd like to dance for him or ask if you can go in the back and play (if dances are done in seperate area), or ask if you can dance for him.

    It all seems kinda weird in the beginning, but you get used to it and develop your own style soon, and it comes more natural. Before long it will be like breathing. The main thing is just relax and have a good time, but remember to keep moving. If someone doesn't want a dance, smile, tell him 'ok have a good time, I've got to get back to work, maybe I'll see you later', then go look for another prospect.

    Good luck!

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    The main thing is just relax and have a good time, but remember to keep moving. If someone doesn't want a dance, smile, tell him 'ok have a good time, I've got to get back to work, maybe I'll see you later', then go look for another prospect.

    Good luck!
    A word of caution about the last piece of advice: it's hard to pull the "maybe I'll see you later" bit without coming across as a merc.

    Make sure you take Bridgette's advice; "I got to get back to work" tells the guy you're being upfront on why you're moving on. It should be obvious why, but remember -- your goal should be to keep that guy as a potential customer for the future, not alienate him, right?

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    ..., but remember -- your goal should be to keep that guy as a potential customer for the future, not alienate him, right?
    That is what sometime seems to be lacking. The 'big picture'. I may be ready to leave or already waiting for the one I just saw on stage. I will be back, dont let me leave with a bad memory of you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck
    Remember HC, "NO" only means "NO" when she says it..... LMAO

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    A word of caution about the last piece of advice: it's hard to pull the "maybe I'll see you later" bit without coming across as a merc.
    Why does this make a girl seem like a 'merc'? Maybe if the guy is over-sensitive, but to me that is just saying the door is open if he's interested later, or maybe we can chat later, or whatever. It doesn't at ALL imply I'm going to come back around in 5 minutes with 'wannadanceyet'. I think some of you guys may just be a little too leery of girls who keep hounding. Remember that those girls are probably in the minority, and relax. A girl saying maybe she'll see you later may generally just be the opposite of a guy anwering 'maybe later' to wannadance, at least in my case.

    I see plenty of guys in the club who guard their wallets like they're in a back alley of robberville instead of a stripclub. Like they're scared to death of a girl asking for a dance, as if she's trying to take every last dollar he's worth and leave him whimpering on the curb, broke and homeless. I don't think most of us are that 'mercenary', so you guys can relax a little!

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    yup. it's ALL about the laid back, "i dont give a fuck if i dance for you or not" attitude. when i'm at the club i totally act like i dont even need the money, i'm just doing it for fun, if i dance for you, great, if not, that's fine too. melonie is right i think the guys can definitely tell which girls are desprate. i'm not saying you should be bitchy; just act friendly, happy, smile, and act nonchalant about whether you get dances or not. keep moving. be the life of the party.

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    Well, I see that I have managed to cause controversy again !!!

    The word I used when advising SophiaR was 'aloof', not 'cocky' or 'I'm so hot that guys should tip just because I'm paying attention to them". I guess I should have elaborated, but Bridgette did a pretty good job of that. The idea of being 'aloof' is to totally avoid aggressively approaching customers (the dreaded "Hi there, wanna dance?"), to instead let the customer decide whether or not he wishes to spend money on private dances after a no pressure initial contact, and to avoid showing any outward sign of desparation or even of disappointment if he chooses not to, as Carmen described.


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    I believe the part of the post that got me was
    ... After all, you're much more beautiful and sexy than any girl who would date these guys in real life, and they are expected to PAY for that privelege!
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    Too me, that didnt sound 'aloof', that sounded like 'I am better, give me money'

    That may not have been the point, but that is how it came across on my end.
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    Well, in my own case ... "I AM better, give me money!" (joke!?) ... or not! I really don't give a f$#k ! NEXT ! I have a very easy time relating to SophiaR's experience, because many times certain club customers will laugh at my tits, call me a freak etc. However, at the same time, other guys will be mesmerized or virtually "worship" me.

    Despite what some guys choose to believe, none of us are dancing for the sheer love of dance, or in hopes of finding a new husband among club customers. Granted that excessively mercenary dancers kill the social mystique of clubs, and that guys do not appreciate being treated as walking wallets, but in the final analysis dancers are selling and customers are buying.

    The important point I am trying to convey to SophiaR is that it's absolutely necessary to maintain an adequate level of self-esteem, and not to allow repeated rejection by customers to translate into doubting her own self-worth or desireability or sexiness.

    And for a fact, guys in clubs treat dancers very differently than girls they date. For example, how many times in real life would a guy tell the girl he is dating that she has a fat ass, or saggy boobs, laugh at her attempts to be sexy, or whatever, while the same guy would have no reservations to do exactly that to a dancer in a club!

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    if you can't be confident, FAKE IT. you need to have the personality that you couldn't care less if he bought the dance, but you would take care of him really well if he did. Lean over him, touch his shoulder, if you have long hair let it touch his face...in other words, flirt. Ask him if he'd like to go play.
    When your on stage try and concentrate on your music. smile. practice sexy looks in the mirror. Think of some sexy poses that accentuate your best features and work them into your routine. I think dancing to rock music works best because you can dance slower instead of working your a$$ off with booty shaking music. If your nervous about how you look crawl around on the floor a lot lay on your back, roll about the stage.
    NO matter how nervous you get remember we were all new girls at one time.
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    ...The important point I am trying to convey to SophiaR is that it's absolutely necessary to maintain an adequate level of self-esteem, and not to allow repeated rejection by customers to translate into doubting her own self-worth or desireability or sexiness.

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    I definitely agree with that. And if you are a bit self conscious about something, dont tell me. I am not saying i dont care, just that I probably dont see it that way. Or on slow nights when ladies are stopping by and asking 'What is wrong with me, nobody wants a dance?" My reply is always, "it is not you, it is them. their loss"
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck
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    if you can't be confident, FAKE IT. you need to have the personality that you couldn't care less if he bought the dance, but you would take care of him really well if he did. Lean over him, touch his shoulder, if you have long hair let it touch his face...in other words, flirt. Ask him if he'd like to go play.
    When your on stage try and concentrate on your music. smile. practice sexy looks in the mirror. Think of some sexy poses that accentuate your best features and work them into your routine. I think dancing to rock music works best because you can dance slower instead of working your a$$ off with booty shaking music. If your nervous about how you look crawl around on the floor a lot lay on your back, roll about the stage.
    NO matter how nervous you get remember we were all new girls at one time.
    I agree with what missmolly said. If you smile and look like you are having fun, guys like it more. If they see a girl looking sad or nervous or like they have to be there and don't want to be, they are not as likely to spend money on her as they would on the girl who is having fun.

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    Smile. Be friendly. Make conversation. Maintain eye contact. Take a real interest in the guy. Make every guy feel special. Be physically fit. Be playful. Be fun. Have a large purse to carry home all your money.
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    Well, its all about sales and customer service, isnt it? We have a thread going on the blue site that talks about developing and maintaining regular customers in order to maximize a dancers earnings. Not exactly the same theme but many of the comments are relevant IMO.

    For those of you who dont visit SCJ heres the link if youre interested.

    http://www.stripclubjunkie.com/cgi-b...565015;start=0

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