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    I read alot about the guys that are posting here. They give their opinions. Hell, we don't always agree with each other, but can't we just get along with them. Xmarx was great! And i know why he never got slammed....He always just agreed.

    I don't want all the guys to go away. I like different opinions. Not attacks, but damn, we should give them a break here. If we don't like what they say, we should avoid it, or try to word our feelings as kind as we can, and move on.

    More guys will be jumping on this site, and we can learn what makes them tick at clubs. I hope anyway.

    Alot are afraid to even post, they PM. This is not fair. We will lose our customer converstaion form.

    Gosh we deal with guys all the time at work, it's nice to hear behind the scenes what they think about us.

    Ladies go to the Blue site and are welcome, but we don't welcome them here it seems.

    Who is the nicer of the sexes ? Really.

    Lets keep the board positive!!! We can do it!!!

    Pamela

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    Whats the question?
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    I've assumed that the men are welcome here since there is a separate board for ladies only, so I assume men are welcome on this one.

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    BTW, what HAPPENED to xmarx??
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    Yeah, what happened to xmarx? I miss him.
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    Hey you have to do alot more to get rid of me than disagree with my criteria on the size of clubs and how their parking is set up.

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    Niceguy has the right attitude :-)

    I don't think we're mean to the guys, we just disagree with them sometimes. Although there are the few rather notable exceptions.

    I don't see any reason why a guy should be afraid to post.

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    I read alot about the guys that are posting here. They give their opinions. Hell, we don't always agree with each other, but can't we just get along with them. Xmarx was great! And i know why he never got slammed....He always just agreed.

    I don't want all the guys to go away. I like different opinions. Not attacks, but damn, we should give them a break here. If we don't like what they say, we should avoid it, or try to word our feelings as kind as we can, and move on.

    More guys will be jumping on this site, and we can learn what makes them tick at clubs. I hope anyway.

    Alot are afraid to even post, they PM. This is not fair. We will lose our customer converstaion form.

    Gosh we deal with guys all the time at work, it's nice to hear behind the scenes what they think about us.

    Ladies go to the Blue site and are welcome, but we don't welcome them here it seems.

    Who is the nicer of the sexes ? Really.

    Lets keep the board positive!!! We can do it!!!

    Pamela
    Right on Pamela. A lot of guys don't post here because they are attacked for not agreeing or not going along with the "party" line. Those that do stay and post here like Xmarx just agree, agree, agree ! LOL Even though there is a Blue Site for customers, guys are still going to post here on the Pink Site, it's to be expected. After all, they want to be where the dancers are... isn't that why they go to strip clubs after all ?

    A majority of ladies come to this forum to learn about dancing and SC life. What better way to learn, than to get the customers perspective of things. You may not always like their opinions, but what the hell, they are the ones paying the bills

    I am in a customer oriented business. After dealing with a difficult customer I've always said "Boy this job would be great if it wasn't for the customers" LOL but without them, I wouldn't be in business.

    Many of the topics that are started here are copied to the blue site so that guys can voice their honest opinions without being attacked. So, come on Ladies, visit the Blue Site once in awhile and post your opinions. Some of the ladies that do, have found that we are not a bad bunch of people, just a bunch of guys who share a common interest... the love of Strip Clubs.
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    It has in the past been easiest to just agree here sometimes for some guys. There still is that element, but I don't think as much.

    I don't tend to post things that start "flame wars". But I'm not afraid to post something that will make girls think about what they are doing. I pick my subjects carefully.

    I don't care for any posts by women which degrade the clientelle unilaterally. We SCJ guys call ourselves PLs and carry it like a banner in a self-depracating way, much like an overweight person makes fun of their own weight. But most of us don't really think we are PLs and the ladies should not either. Each SCJ has a story to tell of why they do SC's. And those stories do not generally incude any real thought of being a "loser". So if I see a post about how customers are in the loser category, I may post something.

    I will often post things which relate to the "bad boy" choices for boyfriends, because those consistent choices often lead to pain for the dancers.

    I will post something which relates to situations where a dancer may be taking advantage of some guy particularly outside of the club. As long as the rules are clear to both sides, then, it's all good. But as soon as either side sees that they have lost sight of the "rules", it isn't fair to continue!

    Those are the kinds of things I don't mind posting a dissenting view on.

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    Big_daddy, question is....Can't we all just try to get along. Customers and dancers.

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    I've never quite understood what exactly the point of contention was between the guys over on SCJ and the ladies over here. Since Pam brought the subject up, I'd just like to make a few points:

    1. I choose my viewpoints based on what I think is pragmatic and logical, and not on what my gender is. If I happen to disagree with the ladies here, I'm not trying to start an argument, and if I happen to agree, I'm not trying to win anyone's good graces by kissing ass.

    2. I in no way profess to be any smarter or more knowledgeable about any subject discussed here than anyone else, (even our newbies). In fact many of you gals know far more about this business than I ever will.

    3. I'm not perfect. While I will not censor myself, I occasionally have my PMS (pissy man syndrome) days like everyone else. If anyone here has been "rubbed the wrong way" by one of my less than tactful posts, then I apologize.

    4. I actually enjoy getting feedback to what I've posted, even from those who disagree with me. I've never posted with the notion that I had to have the last word. No one has the right to an uncontested opinion.
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    It seems to us that disagreements or dissenting opinions are often dancer/customer issues as opposed to women/men issues. Of course that's due to the fact that 99.9 percent of dancers' clients are men!

    We come here to get better acquainted with the viewpoints, habits, customs, etc. of the dancers in order to have a better time when we go to a club. We're more apt to get a 100 percent honest answer here than at the club where we're talking to a dancer who knows I've got a pocket full of cash and MAY be afraid to give an answer she thinks MIGHT piss us off.

    Most folks who post here seem fairly friendly, but it's understandable that as Dr. Catfish notes, sometimes anyone can be in a bad mood or not choose words carefully and rub someone the wrong way.

    That's just our two cents. We're not afraid to post here but maybe that's because I have a woman to protect me.

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    I like to post here mainly due to the fact that if I tried this at a club I may just get the answers they think will make them money. Either that or they are just too busy to bother. I could ask questions on the blue site, but it doesn't seem like enough of you come over (please join us more often) and though the other guys are great, it is the ladies perspective I would like more of.
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    Pamela,

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    Pamela...you have the status on the pink site to bring up a topic like this. Thank you! Im a blue site junkie and dont post here often but I find reading SW pretty fascinating. To be honest, I cringe at some of the things being said but I try to step back and visualize walking a mile in your shoes. I treat the ladies at my club very well so its hard to relate to the BS that some of you put up with. We all tend to remember the bad not the good. Its kind of like reading the newspaper...good news is boring.

    Id love it if the dancers here could somehow focus on the positive rather than the negative regarding customers. I know Im not unique in terms of treating my entertainers respectfully. Ive been an SCJ member for about 6 months and from what Ive read the vast majority of the guys are cool and free spending. We love beautiful women in general and hot strippers in particular. Sure, we will push the limits a bit but never to the point of making a dancer uncomfortable. Its a testosterone thing.

    I noticed several of you have asked "..what happened to xmarx..". Beats the hell outta me. Like Chuck said..all he did was agree, agree, agree. I remember his first post on this board so I could see that coming. I dont think you ladies demand "lock step". Just good stimulating conversation.

    Im sure you know this but you are all welcome to visit and post on the blue site. We love it when hot women come see us

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    I have only been posting here a couple of months but I enjoy it here. I know some of my opinions are not the most popular but I have never been "attacked". I am a true "junky" I have been going to clubs at least once a month for almost 10 years. so I like this site because I can talk shop with you nice gals.

    I only have one question. I haven't IM anybody because I don't want to invade your privacy but If you want to talk to me, I have all my IM's ID's in my profile....

    oh well that is all I have to say, I am to buzzed right now to go any deeper in topic..... :-/

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    Pamela, I agree with you, we should all try to get along. I go to clubs to have fun enjoying the company of pretty young women. You go to clubs to make a living. Seems to me that's a fair tradeoff. I don't understand why anyone should try to make more of it than that.
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    I agree that we should all interact and get along. I enjoy
    reading everyone's opinions, ideas ETC and posting when appropriate.

    reading all opinions is important to me, whether I agree with them or not. It let's me see both sides of an issue.
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    And i know why he never got slammed....He always just agreed.



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    I really enjoy input from the men. I have noticed a couple of attacks on a couple guys that seemed a bit unfair. I think it is important for us dancers to know how the men feel, whether we like it or not.

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    I post more on the blue site these days since I don't have to choose my words as carefully, and my sense of humor gets me in less trouble over there than here. It's just a little easier. Also there have been a few threads here discussing certain customer traits in negative terms by the majority of posters (a few of which I have). So sometimes it's hard to contribute and be a part of the 'community' when I feel like if most of you got to know me, you might not like me all that much.

    I still like the discussions here though, and I read through both sites as much as the other.

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    Pamela, face it, the majority of the ladies here wanted to, and succeeded in getting rid of the guys. The only guys that basically make it here, are the ones that kiss dancers asses. You know, like when you are in a club, the guys that act like that thinking they are actually gonna get laid! The women here definitely do not like it when you disagree with them. I take this site as a strippers "union" so to speak. Or like that one Little Rascals episode where they formed the "He mans woman haters club", well this is like the "He womans man haters club". We may disagree with each other on the blue site, but we respect each other and basically all get along over there. And the women that post over there with us, to me, seem like they are more in tune to what is going on inside stripclubs and are not living in this so called fairy tale.

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    I haven't posted too often here as of yet, but in reading many of the forums, i'd have to agree with Money's analysis. It's "on the money". Sorry bad pun. I've noticed that if a man posts a viewpoint that materially differs with prevailing opinion being propounded in a particular thread, that man gets shouted down quite loudly.
    So, Pamela, I am with you in your call for peace and coexistence. Lets all be tolerant of each other's viewpoints. Gosh this sounds sound incredibly geeky. No matter, its my post and I'll post what I want to. Peace

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    I'm a guy and I post here. I don't know what the blue stie is, but from reading the posts here, I know it's called SCJ. I have never even been to a strip club. But the ladies and the few guys that post here seem nice, and I like to post here, so I will if I'm welcome. And I feel pretty welcome.

    I just like to post on MB's in general. It'sa good way to waste time at work and to learn new stuff. I get to see new people's perspective on things. It's very interesting and fun for me.

    Take care all.

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    I think there are alot dancers here who would like to have this be a place where they can come and discuss the job and not have to deal with customers for a change. I feel there are probably alot of dancers that feel like customers want every part of them- like buzzards scavenging prey or something to that effect.

    And this site feel like a place just for the dancers- a refuge of sorts.
    I think thats probably why Pryce created the Blue Site to begin with. There are specified areas of this site where customers can ask dancers questions and dancers can go to the blue site to seek out customer perspective as well .
    Just my thoughts on the subject.

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