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    :o the other night i had gone to the lumberyard in des moines iowa and i was getting a private dance from on of the girls there and as i was sitting there the girl stopped and i kinda looked up and there was this girl who had just got done giving a guy a dance and she was yelling at him and demanding her money from the guy he had only saposedly shorted her 10$ but she sat there and yelled at him for probly a good 10 min. finally she was like im ganna go get the boncer. for 10$ me and the girl just kinda sat there and looked at eachother like what the hell is she doing? have any of you ever seen or done this to any of the guys or girls you have danced for? and if so how did u deel with it?

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    from the guy he had only saposedly shorted her 10$ but she sat there and yelled at him for probly a good 10 min. finally she was like im ganna go get the boncer.
    First off Eyes I usually don't point this out ( because it normally people just make common errors or typos) however your spelling is well..... in need of attention. Try using the spell check.

    Anyway to answer your question- the guy shorted her- that is no different in my book that stealing. Theft of services is what it is called I believe.
    It sounds to me like she was making a loud ordeal of it so a bouncer would come to her aid. If she just walked off the guy would have just left the club and later returned to do the same thing to another dancer.
    If all he got was yelled at- he got off easy. He should have been arrested IMHO.

    I bet he won't be trying to pull that at The Lumberyard again!

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    No, I haven't done it for $10, but I have done it for $7!!!

    This guy asked me to dance for his girl. While I was dancing for her he tipped me a few bucks. She was really nice and the dance was great. When I was done I asked for payment. He said he already paid me. I asked "when?" He said when I was dancing for her he tipped me $20. First of all dances there were $25 and he had only tipped me eight ones. I showed him this. He was obviously trying to screw me over thinking I'm some fucked up stripper that didn't know better and no one was going to believe me. Well I was 100% sober and this was a small club where everyone knew me and knew I was an honest girl. I got the owner over there. She used to be a dancer so she understood us. He gave me a few more dollars, so now I had $17. He was saying very rude things about how I was scandalous. I would never screw anyone over. I had to go dance on stage then and the owner got the $7 from him. His girl was clearly embarrassed the whole time. I would be too if that cheap a** was my man.

    You don't go to Bebe and pay $50 for $100 pair of jeans do you?

    It's not about $7 its about principal. We can't let guys think they can make up their own price, now can we?

    Eyez, are you a dancer? If you are then I think you would understand this.

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    it does matter if its $5 or $10 ...you owe me my money and i'm gonna get it if i cant get it myself let me tell you the bouncer will ok ...so yes she had a right to be asking for her money...his cheap ass should'nrt even think of getting a dance if he did'nt have the money up front ...he's lucky all he got was yelled at...
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    Kobi ,I have had the exact same thing happen,you know they did it on purpose too and once a guy paid for his friends dance and he said do another one and was like,he already paid,these guys know what they are doing,Iam sure that guy did as well.

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    I really do think he knew what he was doing. He messed with the wrong girl. Just because I'm blonde, doesn't mean I can't count!

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    Her handling of it was wrong. Do not yell, cuss, scream and in other ways draw attention to yourself in an obnoxious way in the club. It makes girls look trashy and makes other customers look at you as if you have something wrong wiht you. We have a fat yeller at our club who always argues with hispanic customers when she's drunk. She specifically goes around and dances for them even though they generally hold out for 2/20 dances and when its over she yells that they tried to stiff her or just creates a scene and they pay her so she'll go the hell away. If he did stiff her then she should have asked for payment in a quieter way and if there was still a problem she should have called over management security but not stood there herself yelling her ass off and making herself look like a dumbass in front of the rest of the club. There's no excuse for it.
    If I buy something from Express and I get charged incorrectly or they forget to take off my platinum card discount I firmly believe that yelling won't change shit and the clerk will be more likely to b/c defensive or yell back instead of simply fixing it. Guys sometimes make mistakes and some are simple assholes who will try you. That yelling all over the club shit doesn't ever really do much but embarass and put people on the defensive. I have had to make people correctly pay me and it was no big deal. One guy made a mistake and the other didn't think I was paying attention and they both paid. I never yelled. I had one guy who insisted he did pay me and I said he didn't and he said well I'm not giving you shit else and I explained that I understood and signaled security to deal with it. No yelling, straight into manager's office, got paid and he left.
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    EyeZ, don't short a stripper and you'll never have to find out! lol Ya I would be pissed too, that's the worst. Especially if the girl is having a bad day.
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    i know i cant spell plus i was trying to type fast my comp sucks. any ways i dont belive yelling was the way to go about it plus by her yelling it ruend my dance cause thats all the girl and me talked about and haveing to lissen to her yell made it just as bad. i guess the way i look at it if i was a stripper i wouldnt throw a hissy fit about 10$ you guys make lots of money as it is you make a good 30 to 40 a hour or more i make like 6 a hour so i wouldnt complain. you guys have oit good when it comes to money.i have been poor for alot of my life so i would be happy to see 100 a night in a 4 night a week deal and to have guys drewl over me.. so when it come to the 10 i dont think i would have did what she did

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    The amount of money we make has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. The price of a dance is the price of a dance, no ifs ands or buts. You get a dance, you pay for it. Granted the girl shouldn't yell, but her yelling didn't make the guy any less of an asshole for trying to stiff her. You wouldn't be willing to let your boss slide for $5 if you found a mistake on your paycheck would you? NO, and you shouldn't. Neither should we.

    And just to address that 'you girls have it good' comment: Yeah, we make more money than you, and more money than alot of other people, but figure our potential career span is MUCH shorter than yours or most people's, and the amount of crap we have to put up with, and the hell our bodies go through, etc etc etc, I reckon we deserve it!

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    I probably would have bitched at the guy..but then got management.

    BUT as far as dancers have it easy when it comes to money. Many clubs are different. If I let every guy who said "I already paid you" go with an "ok". I would lose way more in a night then $10! It would get around I was an easy cheap dance...go screw her over she will let you..lol. Some nights at some clubs...are REALLY bad..especially in neighborhood clubs. At one club..some girls including myself have gone home with $10. Plus if I wanted to get naked for someone for FREE..I would just go to the regular local club and stand next to all the bitches waiting to get laid there! I also have been POOR most of my life..I didn't have HOT water when I was a kid and that was in the freekin 80's. I didn't have anything a little girl should have. I worked in potato fields from the age of 8 on. At 6:00am in the freezing cold in the middle of a field bent over digging in the wet ground and the rotten potatoes 9 hours or more a day for .50 a barrel. So ya, when I grew up and BECAME HOT..I use it for money. So yes I will complain $10 because some jerk wants use me for free just because he thinks he can...PFFT!! I've worked cleaning toilets, in factories, burger joints, picking up trash I know what making $6.00 an hr is like. BUT I don't have to do it and I am not satisfied with having guys drool over me..I want my money for it. [boobies] [pimp]

    P.S: I think $30 to 40 and hour is way low...In my area I start at $150 and hour before tips..he he. A lot of girls on here make $1000 a night +!

    If you earned your $6.00 and hour for a 40hr week and then someone said they were not going to pay you for 2 hours of your work that week would you accept it? Just curious!

    JUST my 2 cents.

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    Good point..I agree.. Bridgette!!



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    The integrity of the $20 lap dance is very important since that's how most of us make our money. There are people out there that would be thrilled to see the value of the dance compromised to $10 OBO because they feel we are overpaid.

    And this attitude of entitlement sickens me. Just because someone makes more than you, doesn't mean they owe anyone ANYTHING. This isn't just for dancers, but anyone.

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    I hate to jump in here but... if I worked for 8 dollars an hour about 5 hours a day, and my manager tried to stiff me for over an hour of work, I'd get pissed off too! It's not that it's 10 dollars, it's that she WORKED for it!! I know a girl who handles stuff like this wonderfully. If the guy says he doesn't have it, she smiles, and says
    "yes, you do have it. You don't want me to stop smiling. Trust me, you DON'T want me to stop smiling." Okay, this is an average sized, attractive girl... but she's tough. SHe would probably rip the guys dick off and feed it to him if our 300+ lb, 6'5", bouncer wasn't there to do it himself!! *mumbles* *stupid cheapskates*.. sorry, NOT in a great mood after thinking about what guys try to pull.

    Kobi, I Really liked your point about paying for something at a store. You pay what it costs, tax and all, or there's hell to pay. They don't sell something to you if you're ten bucks short! And I'm sure the owner of Bebe makes tons of money too!
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    I used to deal with this problem on a daily basis. I got tired of kicking out clients that supposedly did not pay for a dance. Our club rule now is "Pay up front" The rules are posted at the door. All dances are paid in advance. No more problem with an entertainer not getting her $$


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    While I don't think it's appropriate to upset the environment of the whole club when a customer is a jerk-off, if I am owed money for my dances, I AM getting my cash! Yeah, in the aspect of money "dancers have it good". But, after 9yrs. of dancing I need to have surgery on my knees because I've blown them out 3 times. On friday and saturday nights the clubs here require 12hr. shifts and EVERY dancer has to work. Plus, I have to fight off customers who try to touch my pussy on a nightly basis (if that doesn't hit home for ya, touching a woman's crouch without her permission is considered sexual assault dancer or not!). So yeah, we've got it good in some aspects, but some not so much! As far as I'm concerned we earn every dime. And incidentaly, strip clubs are a luxury not a necessity. If your broke you don't go to a fine resturaunt and try to bargain down the rack of lamb! It's not freakin "Let's Make A Deal". I'm sorry if your job doesn't pay well. I'd hazard to guess that most of the dancers here have also had $6hr. jobs in their lifetimes. I have.
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    And just to address that 'you girls have it good' comment: Yeah, we make more money than you, and more money than alot of other people, but figure our potential career span is MUCH shorter than yours or most people's, and the amount of crap we have to put up with, and the hell our bodies go through, etc etc etc, I reckon we deserve it!
    as usual bridgette tells it like it is. i agree 100%!!

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    I beleive we deserve payment for services rendered, plain and simple. But, there are two different approaches, one to yell and scream(make a scene) or calmly go to bouncer/manager to resolve conflict. Yelling and carrying on makes you and the club look poor; plus potential customers may become scared of you simply because they do not know what is taking place...AKA you become 'crazy' screaming girl!--not good for business...get your money, but do it with some tact!

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    I agree with what everybody said on here-yes it was only 10 dollars, but it's the principle that matters. We deserve to be paid for our services. If we let every guy slide who tried to pull that crap, we'd be out a lot of money. Yes, she should've handled it better, she should've talked to the guy or calmly gotten the manager instead of yelling. This reminds me of this one time this guy got 4 dances from me, and even though I said "Should I keep going?" after each song, he tried to claim it was only 2 dances until finally he went to the ATM and paid me the rest of what he owed me.






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    I used to deal with this problem on a daily basis. I got tired of kicking out clients that supposedly did not pay for a dance. Our club rule now is "Pay up front" The rules are posted at the door. All dances are paid in advance. No more problem with an entertainer not getting her $$
    Lots of managers will tell a dancer get your money up front( after the fact)- Easier said than done if it is not clearly posted as club policy where the customers can see it. If it is not what the customer is used to he tends to think he is going to ripped off or something and will just move on to a dancer who will let him pay after the dance.
    I think all clubs should be pay first and I like the policy being at the front door as DivaManager said it is at her club so customers can see it for themselves .

    And if any of you have worked at GGR with the numbers system for the guys- its so great- I really dug it.

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