Thought I would start a comparison of mostly factual matters as they relate to each other on how customers might view and compare clubs.
I'll start by throwing out contact. While I like physical contact, the clubs in Illinois have very low contact due to the political atmosphere they operate under.
The rules are all over the board, and too variable by area of the country. Also as extras are illegal, and also all over the board, I'm throwing that category out also.
I'm easy to please and here is my list of "basics" which I would like to see in any club, because here in northern Illinois we seem to have trouble getting the basics right
from our local clubs. A comment. The Chicago clubs
seem to model themselves somewhat on the New York City strip club model or the New England model.
In general I find this "model" unfriendly toward the
customer and will go to the south, southwest, west or midwest instead.
Club attributes or basics that each club should have
1. Full nude dancing either table or stage. Pasties don't cut it.
2. Along with full nude dancing they should have a full
bar service. My first rule when traveling is, "no drinks in club don't go."
3. Friendly staff and doormen. While doormen double as bouncers, they are the first face the customer sees.
A surly doorman wearing a black suit, with a bulge under his arm and a domineering attitude is an immediate reject for me. I ve been known to walk out the door when I see "Vito the enforcer" as the first
person I see in a club. (In some areas Vito needs to be there, just not as the up front PR person making the decisions on seating.)
4. Related to the above. I can walk in and choose where to sit. Once there I can move around a bit. I refuse to be relegated to the slot the doorman puts me in. I f advised by the doorman "You've moved" I will immediately turn around and leave the club.
THIS MIGHT BE ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING GOOD MANAGEMENT IS NEEDED IN A CLUB ALONG WITH CUSTOMER FRIENDLY POLICIES AND ATTITUDES.
5. Adequate free surface parking with the option of not using the valet. I have the midwest and south
aversion to using valet parking. Don't like
surly guys with bad attitudes driving my car ether.
In an urban environment I know parking is tight and you probably have to use valet. I'd prefer to go to a club not in a downtown area. (Personal preference and not relevant to this discussion I agree)
6. Safe area for both my car and me. This is an
"override" for me. A scuzzy area means I will use the valet parking. However I question why I am attending a club in a scuzzy area and if I shouldn't go somewhere else. The club has to be very good for me to want to continue if in a scuzzy area.
7. Public intimidation of a customer by DJ, waitress, dancer or doorman. This has never happened to me.
The first time it ever does I will get up and leave.
Should "Vito" do this to me he is making the mistake and
wrong judgement of his life. I will tend to depart
expeditiously. At this point "Vito" had better be polite as I am old fashioned and not from the east.
8. "Hustle factor" I know the dancers have to hustle.
If they are intelligent, and can speak on something other than current fad passing rock bands, this is great.
There are the correct wasy to hustle and the "hard sell"
wrong ways. (See hustle sub heading this board.)
9. Bar "safe area". This is a neutral place near the main bar that many clubs have, where the hustle is limited
and is generally "off limits" to strong hustle.
Just because a dancer and I have not hit it off, doesn't mean I want to leave. However if she is into strong hustle, I might have to retreat briefly to gather more intel. This is the most direct and safe way of getting rid of a hard sell dancer who has over stepped her bounds.
10. Clean bathrooms. Please don't start the attendant until 8 p.m.???
A nice option is a restaurant. I will sometimes buy the dancer dinner or buy a snack if we are in VIP should
food service be available.
I think that these are factual items not as subject to
subjective judgements. What do you guys look for in a club, either to dance there or as a customer?



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Thank you Brigette, Polecat, Dr. Catfish, livenudegirlsunite, Lena, Jason and Emily...perhaps Mr. niceguy will listen(read)! Very good posts to learn from, imo. Those huge 'international' complexes you write of...why don't you just walk down to your local appliance store and get a washing machine? --Guido wants you to! hee hee, the only 'international' monies you shall find there is most likely illegal! Cripes, Niceguy, it is like you choose to live in your own world...read the responses and learn, even if you are not happy with the replies.

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