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    Hi tonight was a pretty dead night. I made money only cuz I hustled my ass off. There was one girl at work today who is down in the dressing room who is counting her money in front of us all the girls who had some pretty horrendus night and she goes "huh I made over a grand and didn't do anything tonight" Right in front of everyone! Now it really did not bother me because I left with 540 which I consider to be great money expecially on a dead night. But there were lots of girls that could not even claim the dances they had to at the end of the night. I just thought that was really mean. The thing is this girl ALWAYS leaves with a grand. Yeah she is really hot but she has all of thease regulars. Girls always say that she is sleeping with her customers.I just thought they were envious but now I am starting to wonder. How can she have all of thease regulars and thease guys give her alot of money, she is not a dirty dancer. What is her secret. I am just as good of a dancer as she is but I can not keep regulars!I great night for me is 800 of pure dancing and hustling. For her it is 3000! What am I doing wrong? Is it possible that she does have realationships outside the club or is it just a sort of charisma she has? Is the only way to keep regulars with that kind of money on a consistant basis to have a realtionship ouside the club with them? I refuse to do that. Or should I just accept that just being a dancer(as in just dancing for your money) brings you in 800 to 900 tops in one night? Beacuse that is all I can physically do!!!!

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    I'm not sure if she's having actual sex with these customers, but she may be fondling them and letting them fondle her a lot more than allowed. It's not like you can watch her though because you have to work your ass off yourself like you said. Maybe you can check her out one night on your night off when she works. Hearing she takes home at least a grand every night though, I'm definitly envious of that.
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    IMO i beleive this girl feels no real self-worth; for someone who is insistent(makes it a point) on letting others know how much $$$$ she made feels she in essence, is worth nothing...see? :-/ so she has to go "LOOK at what i made",= what others think i am WORTH(at least monitarily) but the tangible is a heck of a lot more convincing then inner peace(intangible). plus--she is setting herself up for potentail recourse...such as= people jumping her outside the club, breaking into her locker, ect...you should really pity this poor girl, she's in a real world of hurt and trying to convince others(as well as herself) she has worth.

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    No. She makes good money, great. Watch her at work if you have time, and see how she does her job. It is very do-able to make great money and not meet customers outside the club, or perform extra activities inside the club. I was accused of the same thing at Pure Platinum, i made fantastic money, and never met customers, never did LAP DANCES (really) i was a stage dancer. But i would (after a dance) get personal with a guy and talk, pay him attention, get to know him "inside the club" and i banked, with no ld's....I hated them. And did not need to do them. I made myself be a stage dancer, learned the pole and dressed 'crazy' everytime!

    I would hustle for a guy to come with me to the stage, give him the best (when i could) seat right near me, and dance, strip let him touch my legs, hair, arms and put money on my body. I danced nude.

    Some dancers have a routine, they use it and spice it up as to what a guy likes as well as keeping it clean.

    No lie....it's very do-able. I wrote along time back that i walked out of work with $800 almost nightly. Thats pulling 2 4 hour shifts,and alot of work.

    I hated the fact that others assume one is sleeping with a customer when she banks.

    Ps i know alot of doctors and engineers that i made my regulars, they are friends that i told to come and see me. That was part of my hustling. Pull in the friends with money, she may have done the same.

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    Pamela...this too is true...i was referring to gals that walk around TELLING people how much they made. there were gals i worked with that made really big$$$ , everyone KNEW it(were not TOLD it) and was fine with it, perhaps this will clear up my previous statement; because i think that was the real question from lilac666!?!? OR i should say what i was commenting about--Pamela you make good points on how the ones who do not flaunt their earnings make money-- hope this makes sense 'n all!!!

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    I'm no psychologist, but it's also possible that this dancer was advertising her earnings in an attempt to reassure herself that whatever she has been doing in order to achieve these sort of earnings levels is justified! Think about it.

    On the other hand, there are just some girls who seem to have a magic combination of looks, lines and pheremones such that they attract big spending regular customers like honey without ostensibly working very hard to do so. I remember working on one club where there was a statuesque blonde '10' who would simply sit at the bar most of the night while guys continuously pursued her with private dance requests. She would do private dances for some of the guys (mostly guys who were cute or whose appearance seemed to ooze money), and would tell other guys to get lost she didn't feel like dancing for them. Must be nice! Of course I returned to this same club a couple of years later and this particular dancer was still working there, but a couple years older, a few pounds heavier, and no longer sitting at the bar but now working her ass off approaching every customer in the club to buy a private dance from her instead of from the new hot 18 year old dancers who had started working at the club in the meantime !

    And to put dancer earnings potential in perspective, there are a whole lot of clubs in a whole lot of cities these days where it is simply impossible for a girl to earn $800 a night no matter what she does without providing HJ's BJ's etc. and where walking out of the club with $540 net by 'just dancing' is considered a very good night not a slow night!

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    I've done reasonably well in business and am happy with what I do. I don't pay much attention to my competition.

    If my competitor brags to me about how wonderful a contract they got or a new client that they landed, I say, "Great! Good for you!" and go about my business.

    They have come and gone. I have remained. I do OK, my clients are happy, and I'm happy.

    My suggestion, obviously, is to not worry about this lady or anyone else. Be true to yourself.

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    And to put dancer earnings potential in perspective, there are a whole lot of clubs in a whole lot of cities these days where it is simply impossible for a girl to earn $800 a night no matter what she does without providing HJ's BJ's etc. and where walking out of the club with $540 net by 'just dancing' is considered a very good night not a slow night!
    That's just what I was thinking. Where is this place?

    Anyway, my opinion is, that girl who always earns so much is likely doing something other than 'just dancing' for the money. It is physically impossible in most cases to do enough dances to earn that kind of money in a normal club shift, between freshening up, stage, going from one customer to another, etc, and I've never seen a club where there are ALWAYS enough customers paying for enough VIP trips to allow anyone to make 1-3 grand every single night, for dancing only. Even in the best of clubs....money just isn't spent these days the way it used to be.

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    OK Lilac, first things first...

    Whatever is the reason this young lady makes more than you has NOTHING to do with looks. You are incredibly beautiful and I mean that sincerely. Now don't get a big head, (it would look out of proportion to the rest of you LOL), but I just wanted to get that out of the way, you are a total HOTTIE and any man I know would think so.

    But as the others have said, maybe this young lady is just a better hustler, ( or salesperson, which I prefer since I am sure that you do hustle and work hard). Sales is what you do and it is an art not an easy thing to learn. Just keep working on it and you will get better and better by watching her and others and seeing what they do that you don't. But also keep in mind that the techniques that work for one sales professional may not work for another.

    As for her showing off her money to the other girls that is totally not cool and also pretty stupid. There is never any point to having a poor relationship with the people you work with since at some point it always helps if you need a favor to have at least decent terms with your fellow workers.

    Just do your job and keep a discrete eye on her is you can to see if you can learn something from her. Something other than etiquitte since that does not seem to be her strong point. LOL
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    Bragging about money earned is bad business. I never talked with the other dancers let alone talk about earnings, or count out money in front of anyone. But after tipping out.....Yes very much so to be a clean dancer and make great money. You have to have a plan. Be damn good, and WORK. I got out coming up on 1 year soon, and today would i be able to make that kind of money ? I don't know. But i saw a slow decline in business in clubs all over My are of Florida, and the "extra" dancers moving in. I was not going to compete with blow jobs and the like.

    Plus i discovered phone sex is a booming business now, and great money to be made. Guys don't have to drive, and it all starts in the mind anyway! My choice for giving the guys what they want in a couple more months. And the private parties i do. No hassle, money upfront, and NO tip outs.

    The money is out there, you have to market yourself, and do a damn good job at it. Like i said the majority of my regulars are friends! And they told friends. Then you have to hustle on top of that to get even more money.

    Very very do-able. Be different! Hell it's acting at it's finest. And the customers should (the regulars) know this.

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    Actually Iam one of those gorls that even if 20 guys came through the door,I was always busy,girls were jelous,but they respected me,because I was there a long time and they saw I was not a dirty dancer,I have a friend who worked at scores for 7 years and she said she never saw another dancer like me,so business like and always busy,there are a few of us out there,but I never told anyone what I made even if they asked,though girls would try to guess and I never counted my money until I got home,in my experience the girls that brag and show you there money are usualy the ones that onlt make it like once a month,but let everyone know when they do,just like the men that do everything possible to pull out the wad of money and let you see it,its the ones that turn to the side to pay that spend the big money,they dont want you to know how much that have.

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    One thing I learned early on is don't compare yourself to others because there will always be someone doing it better or looking better. Be happy with who you are. I'd be thrilled with $560 too.

    Who knows if she's actually doing extras. Everyone likes to believe the big money makers are because it makes them feel better about themselves. Just be happy with who you are (I think this needed to be said twice!)

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    If I may add my 2 cents... I agree with Winter... (Silently) Pity this poor girl.

    Personally, I count my money at the end of my shifts in the restroom ALONE and I NEVER talk to other women about how much I made on a particular night. Well, beside the "barometer" talk (e.g.,Q: "How did you do?" A: "Good" - "OK" - "Not so good".

    I have found that the nature of karma is especially acute in the stripping industry. Nothing can make your job easier (and more fun) than treating your fellow strippers like SISTERS... it always returns rewards and respect.

    -and those other women who choose to brag about their (IMO) questionable earnings... they'll get what they deserve (our PITY)


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    yep, last night almost the same thing happened to me i had a great night and of course didnt tell anyone what i made nor did i count my money in the dressing room. here is this other girl going on and on how she made 900. ( i sure didnt have 900) well maybe she did but i know i was in vip ALOT more then she was. not saying it didnt happen but i just wondered. she does this shit all the time and she's hot but never consistantly in the top earnings but the younger girls think she is because of all the contstant bragging. i personally think she brings some of it in with her! it's mean to make others feel bad about what they may have thought was a good night. as an aside it was so nice when we were leaving last night EVERY girl made money last night very unusal indeed! specially since thurs and friday were kinda slow.
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    Lilac, at my club, $500 is a very good night. The average is probably closer to $200 to $300. If my fav made $1000 in one nite, shed probably take the next nite off LOL All depends on the market though and I guess at your club $500 is just so-so.

    You made a comment that was interesting to me...your inability to keep regulars. I gather youve kept an eye on the big money dancer and have determined that she doesnt do extras in the club. Gotta be that shes seeing her regulars outside the club, right? Not necessarily. She just may be very very good at promoting the mental side of the club fantasy.

    IMO, dancing from the customer point of view is 90% mental and only 10% physical. Its a given that most dancers are hot looking and know how to dance well. Thats just the starting point. You have to know how to connect with the customer mentally and make him think you want him so bad but dammit the fates are just working against you LOL Ive been a big money regular off and on for years. I would never consider spending large sums on any dancer who couldnt get inside my head and connect with me. Sure, I know its a game but thats OK. My fav once said to me...the industry is based on mutual exploitation. She gets hers...I get mine..and hopefully we both go home satisfied with the results. I suspect the mental side is where you need to focus your efforts.

    Oh, and one more thing. God forbid if youre one of those dancers who, in the recesses of your heart, believe any man who would go to a club and dance with strippers is a slimeball and pervert. I know that mindset exists unfortunately. Any guy who has been successful enough to have serious play money can pick up on that attitude pretty darn quick. There are too many fish in the sea to deal with that b/s and he will bail in short order.

    Good luck to you. Hope you figure out whatever it is and start making the money you hope for.

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    The one bad thing in my club is, it's pretty easy for everyone to see what everyone else is making. When we go to check out, we have to present our dance tickets and funny money to the manager to count and cash out, in front of whomever else is waiting in there, which is usually everybody! I never like to talk about what I make, and I never ask what others make, it's just silly and pointless. There is one girl who is quite overweight and very insecure, and whenever she makes money she always feels the need to count it reeeeeaaal slow and loud in front of everyone, sometimes right at the bar. She's stupid and just asking to get robbed. Of course on the nights when she doesn't do so well, she is NEVER seen counting her money. I'm consistently one of the top earners, and I've learned to take my time getting changed so I can check out last, just so everyone else can't see what I've made. Too many girls were making too many remarks before, when I checked out with the rest.

    To the comments about it being possible to earn good money even when it's slow, of course! It only takes one guy! I too earn consistent money, and manage to have decent nights even when it's slow, but it takes work. Still, even though my club isn't too far off, I haven't seen one where $800 was a 'normal' night in a long time!

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    Well keep working hard, and worry about yourself. Don't worry about her. She's not worth your time or your money. Continuously worrying about her is eventually going to effect your income.
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    IMO i beleive this girl feels no real self-worth; for someone who is insistent(makes it a point) on letting others know how much $$$$ she made feels she in essence, is worth nothing...see? :-/ so she has to go "LOOK at what i made",= what others think i am WORTH(at least monitarily) but the tangible is a heck of a lot more convincing then inner peace(intangible). plus--she is setting herself up for potentail recourse...such as= people jumping her outside the club, breaking into her locker, ect...you should really pity this poor girl, she's in a real world of hurt and trying to convince others(as well as herself) she has worth.
    In the bartending/food service business, there is an unspoken rule that you do not announce what you make on any night, on any shift. Why? Because it opens up all sorts of cans of worms. You will get people who are not making what you make and are jealous, which leads to them thinking either you are ripping people off (and it's up to them to do something about it) or that they have to steal your shifts somehow. You will get people resentful of you, which makes for a bad work enviromnent. And - its less of an occurance, but can happen - if it is known what you make, you can be targeted by theives. In an industry where you make your money in tips, you do not announce your earnings any more than if you were a lawyer and announced to everyone that you just cleared a great sum.

    Not a smart thing to do.

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    Well keep working hard, and worry about yourself. Don't worry about her. She's not worth your time or your money. Continuously worrying about her is eventually going to effect your income.
    ITA with nina .....does'nt make sense to worry about what others do or make be happy with what you make while you try to improve your money making skills ...why she would wanna tell everyone what she makes is beyond me ..but you should have just said "good for you dear" and let it be [boobies]
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    I am amazed that there is still that much money to be made dancing. Ohio clubs just are doing it. Where are you people, it's time for me to move

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    i ment to say are not doing it, just barely getting by

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    Girls who are really good at building relationships with regulars can consistently do better. While most girls are hopping from table to table trying to sell dances, the girl with a regular made 2 or 3 hundred off one guy. Then if she has a few regulars come see her per night she's going to make much more than everyone else.
    Don't ask me what the secret is to keeping regulars. Mine always disappear after they try to date me and can't. Usually they last 3 month's at the very most. But if some girl has figured out the magical secret to keep them coming again and again--more power to her! I wish I could do that!

    Then again, I have known girls who constantly make a killing by bull shitting. For example, "I'll meet you later but you have to give me 200 up front." And she usually has no intention of seeing him. Very profitable but very dangerous.
    Some girls have sob stories. "I'll be evicted if I don't come up with 600 tonight." One girl told a customer her breast implant had ruptured and she needed 3000 to have it fixed. The customer was a RIL so he gave her the money.
    It's easy to see how lies can make more money than dancing, but girls who do it that way won't last very long.

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    I have a friend who has to deal with stock market braggards who was tired of people saying "I bought Chrysler at $3." His reply was "Why didn't you buy more?". Maybe ask them "Why didn't you make more?" once and the odds are they will stop bragging in your presence.

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    Then again, I have known girls who constantly make a killing by bull shitting. For example, "I'll meet you later but you have to give me 200 up front." And she usually has no intention of seeing him. Very profitable but very dangerous.
    Some girls have sob stories. "I'll be evicted if I don't come up with 600 tonight." One girl told a customer her breast implant had ruptured and she needed 3000 to have it fixed. The customer was a RIL so he gave her the money.
    It's easy to see how lies can make more money than dancing, but girls who do it that way won't last very long.
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    You know , if you go around comparing yourself to others you're bound to feel inferior. Look to others for inspiration not envy. The next thing you'll be doing is trying to keep up with the Jones.
    Be happy with what you've got and strive to do it better.

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