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    i've often wondered how the clubs handle the $$$ sitiation. Do they get a cut of the lap dance money??? do you pay a flat fee to work at the club and get all the $ you take in? does the cub get all the $ and you get a salary and your tips?

    how do they keep accuarate count of the $ you take in over the course of a night? Where does the bulk of the clubs income come from? the way overpriced drinks and door and cuts of the dancers $???? or from the dancers themselves?

    you ladies say your job is to be men's fanatasies. Fill me in on the bussiness end of strip joints. My fanatasy is to open a few of them up and make myself a ton of loot, AND be able to work around half naked gorgeous women all day/night


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    oh FYI i'm 23 started my own internet consulting firm a few years back and now pretty much hate working with computers. The $ is good but its boring work. Looking for future option here and i don't wanna shave my legs (or "perma" 5 o'clock shadow) so dancins out of the question

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    Default Re: how do clubs handle the $$$

    how do new clubs recruit talent? how do established clubs recruit talent?

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    They charge fees, a tip out. Usually it's a flat fee but a lotta places also charge percentages.
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    It's not as easy as "how can I take money from the dancers"? I'm surprised that you do not even know the very basics and you want to open up a club, but okay...


    First, there's a lot going on with putting these types of clubs out of business. Many cities are trying to ban lap dances, which of course makes things very difficult for the dancers, and of course you. There are legal fees up the ying-yang too. You have to hire managers who won't steal from you and will know how to handle dancers (who are probably the most unrealiable and unprofessional people I've ever come across).



    I really suggest that if you're serious about doing this that you 1) save up a lot of money since I don't think it's even possible to do this without at least $500,000 and 2) learn the ropes about the business. There is so much going on behind the scenes....I have no clue with most of it is, but I know enough to know there's a lot I don't know.

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    I think you are going to get a wide variety of answers here. Here's mine:

    I pay a flat rate (weekends and weekdays are $40/$60 respectively as long as you are there before 9pm), no tip out (not even allowed) and keep 100% of the money I make above that. The only exception to this is when I do champagne rooms for which I pay a rental fee for the room to the club and set my own prices accordingly. In the case of champagne rooms, we tip out the VIP host, but that's it. I make no money off of a drink hustle and the bulk of my money comes from doing lap dances. Bulk of the club's income seems to come from the bar and champagne room fees. Stage fees are split among certain employees (from what I understand) to compensate for not getting a tipout. We have an amazingly good advertising campaign and and amazingly loyal staff so something must be right. We are almost always the last club to get slow enough to close (Reno is a 24 hour town so no last call). We are open from noon to as late as 8:30 am the next morning.

    Some clubs here get a cut of the lapdances, some go so far as to try and charge for 1099s (only one club gives them) and both of the clubs that do those things fine for everything from chewing gum to not selling their calendars.

    Every club says they require an audition but I haven't had to yet... it must be manager dependent. There is no dearth of girls wanting to work in the clubs; many girls drive regularly from San Fransisco, Sacramento and San Jose so I believe recruitment is simply word of mouth

    Hope that slakes your curiosity.

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    Oh yes, and our club is owned by a well known local lawyer so that may be why we have such a keen place to work
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    My fanatasy is to open a few of them up and make myself a ton of loot, AND be able to work around half naked gorgeous women all day/night
    This is precisely why it should remain a fantasy. Of all the owners and managers I've known in this business, the LEAST successful are those who think of it that way. ....Not to say that the successful ones are those who only think of it as a business - most enjoy it - but the successful ones are those who see it as a business opportunity first and fun second.

    Also, since you're asking suck BASIC industry questions, you obviously don't have the first clue about what it takes to run a strip club. It is alot of work, probably ALOT more than you want to deal with. It's not something you can just hop into, get some kicks, pick up some cash and babes and hop out to play. If you own a club, you will basicly never have a day off, and your hours will be WAY longer and more stressful than what you are likely used to. Oh, and the hot half naked babes you're so eager to work around can be some damn nasty hateful bitches who make your life miserable. It definitely takes a CERTAIN kind of person to work in this industry, even moreso to manage or own a club. OMT: about finding a manager who won't steal from you - good luck. About the best you'll do there is find one who'll steal less than someone else!

    Anyway, if you really think you want to open a club, the easiest way to get some idea what it's like is to start checking out the scene.

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    In regard to new clubs, you'll definitely need to satisfy the following prerequisites :

    #1 - identify a potential location for your club which has ...
    A. an adult business friendly city government
    B. enough business travel activity and/or high enough prevailing wage rates to provide a lucrative potential customer pool
    C. manageable state and local laws (lewdness, contact, nudity, adult zoning) so your club can operate on a reasonably profitable business model

    #2 - establish necessary professional connections
    A. financing / credit line up to $1mil with $500K budget expected if everything goes as planned
    B. retain "connected" local legal counsel
    C. establish a "positive" relationship with other area clubowners (this can be a major stumbling block if other area clubowners have their own ENFORCEMENT staff if you catch my drift)

    Once you get to this point, you can then get serious about obtaining permits and insurance, buying/leasing a properly zoned building, and outfitting it as a club. With any luck, the local government officials will still be supportive and you won't be surprised by a new anti-dance club ordinance outlawing any new clubs the day before yours is scheduled to open! With further luck, the other area clubowners will still be supportive such that a mysterious fire doesn't break out in your club the day before you're scheduled to open etc. With even more luck, the local citizenry won't organize a grass roots opposition movement and obtain a judge's stay order the day before your new club is scheduled to open which then ties you up in court for the next 2 years.


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    where to start ...lets see.... this club i use to work at the use to charge just tip in fee.....then they have dancer drinks where if you get a costumer to buy you a certain drink you get a ticket to cash in this way you get half the cost of the drink ......this worked out for the girls and management ....
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    Where does the bulk of the clubs income come from? the way overpriced drinks and door and cuts of the dancers $???? or from the dancers themselves?
    In the case of some clubs, the bulk of the money (or at least a fair chunk of it) comes from none of the above. Since you're so inquisitive, I'll let you figure that one out.
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    well this is thanks for eth info so far. I'mno tplanning on opening anything up in the next few minutes this "plan" is a few years down the line.

    as for long hours, last week i did six 14 hour days i an row. I own my company, when the shit hits the fan i have to clean it up. SO logn hours dont; really bother me so much. As for just goignt o have fun. I never look at any busines venture as a "way to have fun". I hate loosing $. I meant it woudl be a more enjoyable work environment.

    as for experience or ideas on hwo to run a club, you're right I have no knowledge whatsoever of how they run. But my buddy who is opretty gung-ho about opening a strip joint already owns a few bars in houston. So he's pretty knowledgable. I'm just trying to get some more basic info some place. Hey you gotta start someplace.

    keep the info coming ladies!! thanks!!!!

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    Default Re: how do clubs handle the $$$

    why don't you get a job in a strip club?
    they probably won't hire you as a manger, but you can do other stuff like security, DJ, barback, limo driver, etc., and be promoted to manager (see it all the time)

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    Yeah, it would probably behoove you to actually work in the industry before jumping in.
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    lol

    yeah i was thinkin the same thing. Unfortunatly at present i can't just up and leave my business i don't really enjoy it but I do have an obligation to my clients. Perhaps i'll have to start phasing myself out of projects.

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    do both
    many people work part time at a strip club and have a day job.

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    Default Re: how do clubs handle the $$$

    i've often wondered how the clubs handle the $$$ sitiation. Do they get a cut of the lap dance money???
    Some do. At Deja Vu for example out of a $20 lap dance the club gets $9. The floor managers count lap dances as they circulate around the room. They mark them down on a clipboard.

    do you pay a flat fee to work at the club and get all the $ you take in?
    In some clubs, probably most anymore, there is a set appearance fee or stage fee. I've seen these range from a low of $15 to as much as $200. Usually if the appearance fee is at the high end of the scale, you keep your lap money.

    does the cub get all the $ and you get a salary and your tips?
    I haven't seen this happen yet, but I'd say that it is the direction that the IRS and most of the state revenue departments would like to go.

    how do they keep accuarate count of the $ you take in over the course of a night?
    That's the job of the floor manager or floater to keep count. Obviously if you are overcharging or getting tips over and above the stated dance prices their estimate of your income will be off.

    Where does the bulk of the clubs income come from? the way overpriced drinks and door and cuts of the dancers $???? or from the dancers themselves?
    I'd say the profit margin is highest on soft drinks. Next would be beer and last wine and hard liquor. Food should be a money maker, but not like soft and hard drinks. A club with high appearance fees probably makes good money, but will ultimately have a bunch of very unhappy dancers, or a huge advertising bill. If I was going to run a club, I'd charge a percentage based on dance count. That way, dancers are motivated to dance. Which is a problem in this business. Set a high appearance fee, and dancers are motivated to perform extras. They also expect a huge crowd in return for those appearance fees. Big crowds mean one thing, a big advertising budget.

    you ladies say your job is to be men's fanatasies. Fill me in on the bussiness end of strip joints. My fanatasy is to open a few of them up and make myself a ton of loot, AND be able to work around half naked gorgeous women all day/night
    The business end of this business is not a fantasy. It's hard work. The minute you start thinking with the little head, is about thirty seconds before the ABC Police walk through the door with a bunch of auditors asking tough questions. (One more thing, the ABC auditors don't need warrants, they can look at your books anytime you are open.)

    If you have the money to invest in this business, take all but $10K and invest in an index fund. Take the $10K and blow it at about $400 a night and you can enjoy the fantasy without any of the hassle of owning a club.

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    I find it interesting that I have never seen a single post from someone that actually works in a strip club that they would like to own one.

    food for thought...

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    ley me clarify its not exactly a "fantasy" that was mean to be kind of tongue in cheek humor. I think of any business as business. Hence my curernt company is profitable. When i started its was a "fantasy" as well, now its just boring.....

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    Unfortunately even the most glamorous of businesses becomes boring after a while: the minutiae of day to day bookeeping, profit/loss, employee issues... etc. start to edge out the magick. Be thankful that your present reality is at least in your own hands
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    trust me nothing is more boring than programming for 12-14 hours straight 5 days in a row tyring to make a project deadline..... (aka last week)

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    trust me nothing is more boring than programming for 12-14 hours straight 5 days in a row tyring to make a project deadline..... (aka last week)
    Golly, ya think? Why do you think some of us on the board are strippers now?

    My best-guy programmer friend just quit a very high-paying project to deliver pizza! No kidding. He said he is the happiest he's been in years. Actually, of all my friends in the tech field, I think two still actively work full time in it.

    Anyway, try the part-time thing. I think it was a very good point that was brought up that no one who works in the clubs ever seems to want to own one.

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    hmmm interesting point....

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    Golly, ya think? Why do you think some of us on the board are strippers now?

    ....


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    Right on! I'm one of them....have a bachelor's degree in Computer Science and 4 years professional experience in the field, and now I'm a full time dancer....tee! It's awesome

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