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    Today our managers told us they got tipped off that our club might get raided. They said they are looking for drugs and/or prostitution related activites. Since I am not involved in any of those I have nothing to be concerned about but I do suspect some girls to preform extras outside the club but I have never seen it inside our club. Our club is pretty upscale and very low contact so I really don't understand why they would want to raid us? I have seen some girls smoke pot but never cocaine or anything like that. I really hope girls are smart enough to smoke that stuff at home and not at work( where they should be doing it anyway) or we are all screwed. If we are busted and closed down we do not have the oppurtunity to reopen. That would really bum me out because I love my club. It is low contact which is very rare in my city I guess. Other clubs all have Texas style couch dances which really freaks me out. Also I love all the girls, djs, floormen. everybody.They are all great and feel like a small family.
    This is so stupid our club is getting targeted. Really it is a good, clean club and I really don't see bad stuff happing. Our rival club in town is what they should be targeting. Girls come from that club telling us all the crap that goes on expecialy in the private rooms over there from guys doing lines off of girls., girls preforming sex acts on eachother and/or customers. Apparently that is what the girls say I can't say if it is true or not because I never worked there but when twenty girls quit over there and all say the same thing it makes you wonder. But that club won't get raided. They are bigger than us, been around longer and have more powerful owners I suppose.
    None of this has happen yet but I am still worried. Wish us good luck. We are a good club and deserve to be open. I really need this job. I don't want to start doing contact dances at a diffrent club. Well keep your fingers crossed!

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    They said they are looking for drugs and/or prostitution related activites. Since I am not involved in any of those I have nothing to be concerned about
    Truthfully, I'd be very concerned about being (falsely) busted for prostitution yourself. If an undercover cop says you are guilty, and if you are unable to positively prove that you are innocent (like for example with club security tapes that show you DIDN'T engage in any sort of contact), the odds overwhelmingly favor the bogus charges sticking. When it comes to the members of the 'general public' in the jury box, they're very likely going to base their judgement on the Hollywood Stereotype and the report of the undercover cop, and are very likely going to think every word you say in your own defense is a bold faced lie.

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    Well, there is the possibility that in your area religious fanatics are behind this. It could also be that cops are being bribed or pressured to raid your club by that other club's management. Maybe, just maybe, that club's reputation is affecting yours. Hope nothing bad goes on in your club. Good luck.



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    Good luck lilac and watch yourself very closely. Be extra squeaky clean about what you do for a while. (And stay off the cigs too. )

    Anyone with a memory should be very humble.

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    Lilac, if you work there, you DO have something about which to be concerned. When a club gets raided the cops KNOW something. Chances are they are NOT guessing. When they storm a strip club they are taking everybody, and you get the "guilty until proven innocent thing"; and if 22 others got busted giving head, it'll be really hard to prove that you are the one "angelic stripper". Believe me, it's hard...

    Be safe, watch yourself,& remember to always look out for self first.


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    It is not 100% necessary to have a warrant for the police to raid a club, but it most certainly helps. Chances are, if they are planning a raid, they have a warrant. That means that they've been able to convince a judge that it is more likely than not that certain illegal activities are going on. That means they've probably been in the club already investigating. They could have made "dates" with your fellow dancers and already obtained sex for money. There is no law that requires the police to abstain from actually having sex with a prostitute during an on going investigation. In fact one of my cop regulars used to do this all the time. So, chances are really good that the cops have some pretty strong evidence against at least a few people.

    You said, that you've seen some people smoking pot. As dumb as it may seem, pot possession is illegal in all 50 states. That alone could be enough to get a warrant.

    If I were you, I'd lay low, make sure my locker was super clean, maybe take some time off and definitely hire the best criminal lawyer in town. Hire your lawyer now and talk to him or her about the prostitution and drug laws in your state. The key to beating criminal charges if they come down is having the best highest priced lawyer around.

    Hang in there girlfriend,
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    In my experiance clubs that get raided do so for the following reasons:

    #1. Redevelopment, your club sits on an area considered for redevelopment[ read-soon to be valuble real estate].
    This usually goes hand in hand with a new city ordinance against dancing. [i.e. Gold Club in Atlanta, Club Femme Nu in Honolulu, it sits on land the Honolulu Convention Center wants to expand on.

    #2. Election year- Time to appeal to the bible bangers for votes by getting headlines for enforcing morality.

    #3. Bad Managment, and Bouncers letting things get so open and out of hand that it really can't be ignored by the police any longer.

    #4. Somebody pissed off the Feds, and local law enforcement must do something about it.

    #5 Nuisance Raid, somebody higher up pissed off the cops, or they want information they think somebody has.[i.e. Pink Poodle in San Jose, a patron was murdered supposebly by a Staff Member]

    #6 Somebody (or her S/O) got in trouble during thier off time and is saying anything to make a deal, so they can avoid a longerterm stay in your state's penal system.

    #7 The competition "This recession is killing me, time to shut down my competitor for awhile, and take advantage of his misfortune" Drug dealers do this to each other all the time.

    But mostly it's the first three reasons.

    BTW if you think your club is going to get raided, wouldn't it be a good time to go on a vacation, or seek employment elsewhere, instead of staying there in the first place, and waiting for the invetable.

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    Default Re: My club might get raided!

    You forgot to add

    #8 - clubowner who refuses to play along with crooked local politicians and/or cops request for "contributions"

    - and -

    #9 - some portion of the club's regular clientele are involved in known or suspected illegal enterprises i.e. drug dealers. bikers, and the local cops bust the club to disrupt their supposed base of operations. This one is really on the increase since the Patriot Act went into effect since it allows cops to use an easy to get probable cause warrant against the club as a basis for investigating the drug dealers, bikers etc. (where a direct warrant against the drug dealers, bikers etc. would be nearly impossible to obtain without hard evidence)

    I still agree with madgrad's choice of the top 3 causes though.

    I also agree that if a dancer has reason to believe that her club is at immanent risk of being busted that it's STUPID to keep working there. The potential legal costs and negative effects of getting swept up and charged in a club bust, some of which can have a negative effect for the rest of your life (like a misdemeanor conviction on your record) far outweigh the loss of a couple of weeks worth of dancing income while the dancer takes time off and waits for the bust to occur or seeks work in a different club. This is particularly true if the individual dancer does not already have her own lawyer and has not set aside a bail and legal expenses fund (see the Dollar Den BBS).

    This is doubly true if the city in question requires dancer's licensing or if the individual dancer ever plans on working in a city that requires dancer's licensing, because having a record as a result of a club bust may keep you from getting/renewing your dancer's licence. This is quadruply true if the dancer eventually plans to work in a "straight job" field which is reputation sensitive i.e. law, medicine, education, banking etc. where a misdemeanor sex charge on her record may prevent her from "getting in the door".

    I'll again repeat what I first posted and what Zofia and many of you have concurred with from your own experience. When a club is busted, it essentially does not matter whether or not an individual dancer is actually caught performing sexual contact for customers, dancing too close to customers, having drugs in her possession etc. It ALWAYS boils down to the matter of an undercover cop saying that the dancer is guilty, the individual dancer saying she's not guilty, and a jury made up of the "general public", whose impression of exotic dancers is based on the Hollywood Stereotype, believing the cop rather than the dancer.

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    Just make sure to bring your id with you when you work - don't forget it at home because the cops will also be checking for girls who are working illegally - and if you don't have ID, you can be brought in. Depending on your state, it is illegal to walk around without ID... sounds silly but there are some silly laws out there that cops actually take seriously ( In New York, you can be arrested for not having at least $1.50 in your pocket - it sounds crazy, but you can be arrested for vagrancy!)
    sorry for that last tidbit of useless info, but I'm just saying make sure you're not caught at the club without ID, if they do indeed raid ....

    Jax
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    I think it is a gift that you have been for warned about the possible raid. Tell them your relatives sick and get out awhile. Some girls don't even get a warning.
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