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    Did you get a pleasant surprise at how other people saw you, a rude awakening or neither?
    Anyone with a memory should be very humble.

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    I have found that I am less critical of my looks now then when I started dancing, however, I have also seen a lot of room for improvement that I didn't think nessessary before (read plastic surgery).

    The biggest change that I have seen in myself is that I tend to see my own personal value as based on looks, before I judge myself as a nice person. Before I started dancing looks came second in my mind after personality as far as self value.

    I think a lot of dancers (and anyone else who lives off their looks) will see this in themselves. This is a good question, but I'm not really sure how to respond to the poll. I'm not a 10, but I am judging myself as better looking these days then before I started dancing.


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    I think in any business where you use your looks to make money, the motivation to look good is always there. Looking good=surviving in the business. Looking worse=less money. I think most people will look better after being in the biz than before because : 1. you have more money to "invest" in your looks 2. You are more in touch with your own flaws.
    Look at all the actresses who look WAY better now than they first started.

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    This is a good question, but I'm not really sure how to respond to the poll. I'm not a 10, but I am judging myself as better looking these days then before I started dancing.

    Trust me Paris, you are way hot. We have never talked before but I have seen your pic and it stopped me in my tracks.

    I only used the number system because I did not know any other way to phrase the question. Just think of it as a reference point since no one is truly a ten, nothing is perfect in this world. (Except maybe my mother in laws rice pudding or a really well done cocoanut creme pie?)
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    Never thought i was a 5, 6, 7, or higher. But had alot of people tell me i look fake. I had no plastic surgery what so ever. I have been called Barbie, (which is not fine with me). And also a piece. Which was not fine. I feel good about myself, and know certain people will always look down at you.

    I have been called alot of names that have to do with "fake" more than real, or pretty. I got over it..Fast!

    Women can be bad, men also would follow their lead with rude comments. "her hair can't be real", and crap like that.

    Alot of rude comments came my way. But i had my share of nice. This is my life and i will damn well do what i wish with my looks!

    I have even been accused of having fake breasts. Wow! some peole will say anything to try and hurt your feelings.

    It did not work. I am still kicking!!!

    Pamela

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    Pamela - it takes a special sort of resiliency in this world to discount the negative comments by others - especially if it is a repeating occurrence. So many people will get 9 great, uplifting compliments, then get one bad remark, and obsess over that one bad remark, rather than feel heartened over the compliments.

    One thing that I can say I admire about Dancers (as opposed to women in general) is, on the whole (and of course nothing is absolute) their confidence in their looks. No matter what a woman looks like, you cannot go out there and dance and be successful without having at least a healthy esteem about your physical appearance. You may not like a certain aspect of yourself, you may think you need improvement in areas, but, unlike so many, you do not hide it away under mountains of clothes and mountains of low self esteem and self loathing. That’s a very remarkable trait, and it tends to be a great help in seeing that a negative comment is not Truth, only one person's opinion.

    I was married to a woman who I truly thought was very beautiful (and I expressed that freely to her), but she didn’t see it that way, and would not climb out of her pit of self loathing in regards to her looks. I only wish she had a 10th of the self confidence I see in dancers.

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    Well, it's complicated.

    Before I started dancing I really never thought about my looks. Honestly, I was one of those people who wore jeans and sweatpants and no make up all through school and thought that the girls who spent so much time on their looks were nuts. I had absolutely no concept of any kind of body image, I think. I was really young.

    I remember knowing that men fell in love with me, got obsessed, etc., very easily. But I thought that had everything to do with who I was and not really what I looked like. I thought I was pretty, but I also thought that most people wouldn't think I was pretty. I actually don't think I ever looked at myself naked in a full length mirror before my first night of dancing.

    I've learned that it is about looks, and that I do look really good. But I still think it has more to do with who I am (how I carry myself, how I act, talk, etc) than how I look.

    So, I didn't know how to vote on the poll...

    Lena



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    I have been called alot of names that have to do with "fake" more than real, or pretty. I got over it..Fast!


    It did not work. I am still kicking!!!

    Pamela
    You and I had this conversation once before Pamela, remember? I told you then they were all fricking nuts and I still say it. You are a lovely woman and I have thought that since the first time I saw you. (Your pics, you know what I mean!) I don't want anyone thinking we have met for some midnight tryst or something although I know that you cannot resist me a second longer! [monkeydance]


    Everyone, don't take the number thing so seriously, mostly I just want to know if you thought you were hotter or less attractive then others told you you were when you started stripping. I find it interesting that NOBODY has chosen that answer, don't you? The one that would mean they were less atractive then they thought they were, I mean. I have known women who just thought the world rose and set on them and really they were just ok looking. None of them are strippers I guess. LOL
    Anyone with a memory should be very humble.

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    I find it interesting that NOBODY has chosen that answer, don't you? The one that would mean they were less atractive then they thought they were, I mean. I have known women who just thought the world rose and set on them and really they were just ok looking. None of them are strippers I guess. LOL
    Maybe that just indicates that, at least the dancers who participate in these Forums, look at the question with a lot of introspection, and know that its not a black and white answer, which saying "Yes I think I am hotter now" would indicate.

    Whether you are physically "hot" in terms of looks is a matter of opinion. There is always one person who thinks that you are not attrative. Maybe they realize this, and don't equate the entire totality of their physical looks on simple opinions of others.

    Maybe be thought of as ultra hot isnt neccessarily a good thing in the Dancer World. The more a guy is attracted to you, possibly the more he might feel compelled to harrass you for extra-curricular stuff. We all joke that a pretty lady messes up our thinking, but in reality some guys don't think in the first place. A blindingly beautiful visage might end what little thinking he had in the first place.

    I find that all these answers so far are far more meaningful than "Yes I think I am hotter now". They may not be the answers one might expects, but they are worthy nonetheless. Kudos to you all.

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    Thanks guys! As a former stripper, you do have to put up with alot of insults. I never thought i was "hot" actually, just wanted to look like the girl next door. And i am her! It was all fantasy, dressing up for glam! At home, i wear short skirts and such, because i "feel "sexy, " and i love that feeling deep inside. But i have never tried to use looks to abuse a situation. Guys (alot) assumed i was a CallGirl, Escort gosh so much. All i wanted to do was dance for people, have fun. But look beautiful while doing my job. I just never felt "beautiful".

    I can thank my "mind" for that one, my ex reminds me again, he says i am beautiful to look at, but i ruined the "real" beauty with my personality. I have learned, inner beauty reflects, and motivates in great ways. You feel like you walk on air.

    Not sure where this was going, except that i look in the mirror and wish for a better personality, instead of "oh my gosh, you must make a fortune crap."

    PS i had hopes that by also quiting the biz. He would accept me again. He instead tells me i can't hurt him if he does not let me. Feel like you just can't win (just once) no matter what at times.

    Pamela


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    I've always been conscious of my physical appearance and willing to devote time and energy to it. However, before I began dancing, I viewed myself as roughly a 7.5,maybe an 8. Now, I think I can more accurately say I'm an 8.5, and on good days a 9. This comes as a result of heightened self-esteem and a healthy appreciation for myself

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    Interesting I recently was in a work shop called "type me." This is geared for actors mainly. You sit in the head of a room with basic florescent office lights, (yuk) and have around seventeen people or so judge you, by looks and "essence" only as they look at you for about seven minutes and jot things down about you without writing their names. Now remember, in these lights, no matter how good your body looks, they can see every skin and/or facial flaw whether you are tired, have a zit, are oily,whatever. I really like my body, it is my oily skin and a sometimes tired look that I am self-concious about.

    I did this twice and it is more unnerving the first time. They guess your age, rather you are plain, attractive, beautiful,et. They type what roles they think you would be stereotyped into and how they would cast you and whether they, the people judging you, are male or female.

    Now, you are not sitting there in "stripper ware." The first time I went, I was dressed trendy w/ my hair straightened. I was guessed younger, most people said I was "attractive" and the bulk of the people said I should be playing a stripper or some sort of criminal!! My God! I was wearing tight jeans, basic boots and a turtle neck. I mean how stripper like is that ???

    The next time, I had a more conservative, business look. I also left my hair in it's natural state, very curly. I was also more comfortable with the process. This time I was guessed older,however, more of the male participants said I was "beautiful" instead of just "attractive" and people thought I could play more authoritative characters and more people thought I could play a Mom. Before only four people thought I could be"Mom."

    In both cases, there was one person who said I was "plain". They were both female.(LOL)

    I think people think I am more attractive when I am outside of the club. Being a working actor, I am losing more body fat, I have been told by some club patrons that I am too thin. I have firm breasts but they are only a "B" cup. Ironically, I was told by a wardrobe person on a film set that my boobs were too big to fit into a size 2 dress. ???

    Which is funny, because I so don't have large breasts. I get more people telling me I am cute and pretty more readily outside the club. But dancing has made me more aware of my body.

    I started dancing so long ago, that I think my looks rated higher then because of youth. I think I am the same: a solid 8.5 and I am happy with it.

    Cheers,

    Corey
    (Formerly known as 'Korina')

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    It is interesting to go around as an attractive woman and get hit on by guys outside of work compared to at work where at times you are turned down by guys that would most likely follow you around at stores and ask for your phone number at bars.


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    I voted "I thought I was a 6 or 7...." but it's really more complicated than THAT. I was really kinda down on my looks before I danced. Dancing gave me a HUGE ego boost about my looks, but I still knew there were things about me (like my boobs!) that needed work. All in all, though, dancing was tremendous for my self image.

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    Susan,you have got to be kidding a 6 or 7,I looked at your pics and would say in some of your pictures you look to be a deffinate 9 or 10 and in none did you look a 6 or 7 like you said, and its the genuine attitude that makes you even more attractive because the girls that think they are 9 and 10s are usually not.

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    I have never thought of myself as anything close to a beauty queen, but I also know I am attractive and far from ugly. When I started dancing, everyone went on and on about how beautiful I was, and they still do. I'm one of the oldest girls in my club now, and most people comment that I look younger and prettier than most of the younger girls. I don't know about that, but I do make the effort to look after myself and I think it shows. I think anyone who works in a business that is so directly linked to their appearance will be much more aware of it, and will hear alot more comments about it.

    The funny thing to me is, most of the girls I work with tell me everyday how great I look and how much younger than my age I look, but when they're talking with customers it's a whole different story - "oh, she's pretty but she's old", or "she's pretty but her tits are too big", or "she had a nice body until she got her boobs done".... then in the dressing room, "wow I can't believe how nice and natural your boobs look and feel - I wish I could get something like that", or "oh my god I can't believe you're 30! you look so much younger!" or "you have such nice (insert body part here)", etc etc etc. But I learned a long time ago not to pay too much attention to the comments I hear at work because most of it is bs. What matters is how I feel about myself, both in appearance and as a person.

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    Yeah, I was dang surprised anyone wanted to see me!

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    I Found out just how HOT I really was.....

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    honestly, i dont really think i am 'hot' or 'sexy'. i'm toxic. (it's not meant in a bad way). my number on your scale of 1-10 would be Z. i'm just me- take it or leave it- until i give you cancer.

    i do find i have my own high personal standards on looks, but those existed before dancing. i am hard on myself, but then again, the standards are less traditional- i think i need to get more tattoos, a metal plate implanted in the back of my neck and a huge branding piece covering my ribcage. hell, if i could be perfect i'd have wings and six arms (yes, i think that's attractive)

    i dance because i always loved to dance. that was always in my spirit. it is a way for me to express myself (without making napalm). im not dancing just for the money or for people to tell me i'm pretty. im dancing because i have a lot of aggression and it helps me get that out of my system. i dance because i want to challenge my body to do things i didnt think i would be able to do ever again. dancing in strip clubs has let me experiment with movement and i think my greater confidence lies really not in my looks, but the fact that the activity is good exercise and keeping me in healthier shape. i also have some pride in the fact that i can get out there and break down the barriers and just do what i do when no one thought it would ever be possible. dancing has opened up my creativity when it was turned down at other times and places.
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