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    I have read in several posts here and there that some dancers tip the housemother. The club I'm at is the only one I've been at, so i don't really know if our housemother duties are pretty standard or not, but I can't see why we would tip her. What is the typical role of a house mother? Ours makes our schedules, collects house fees, enforces rules, runs merchandise dances making sure we try to sell the merchandise, etc. This does not seem like something I should tip for. She's nice and some girls do come to her with personal problems, but really her role seems managerial (don't know if that's a word.) I tip the DJ and the floor guys that walk me out, but I'm wondering if I should be tipping the housemother. I don't think anyone else at my club does. So do some housemothers do more than ours? What do you tip her for? Or is it just protocol to do so?

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    The housemoms I've seen have also cooked and brought in goodies. I would tip on days when I ate the food, but not otherwise.

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    Crazy what tipping has turned into - in most cases nowadays tips are expected as opposed to being earned...whatta shame.
    If service above and beyond is received, then tip.
    Isnt that the whole premise?

    Kinda like bathroom attendants I dont know about you people but I HATE that sh*t...
    Its like a ransom, toss me a buck and I will give you some of the paper towels already provided by the establishment to dry your hands....grrrrr. They take over the public towel dispenser, some cases actually remocing the roll and holding it so you are put in the position of requesting paper as opposed to having the option of serving yourself.

    All that other junk bugs me too - mints, and perfume, I have that in my purse!

    sorry off topic but related.... :p
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    we are required to tip the housemom. She doesn't get shift pay, so her salary comes from just us, which I think is unfair because she works for the management (she takes orders from them) but is there for us secondarily. I always eat her food though.

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    In Texas clubs I have worked in, housemoms were the ladies that provided toiletries, food, curling irons, make-up etcetera for the dancers to use. She also repaired rips in outfits and sold those no slippies for shoes.

    I felt compelled to tip her only if I used her stuff or has her fix a dress. Then I tipped handsomely. These ladies were nice, but I saw no reason why I should tip them for merely existing.
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    " Crazy what tipping has turned into - in most cases nowadays tips are expected as opposed to being earned...whatta shame.
    If service above and beyond is received, then tip.
    Isnt that the whole premise? "


    I am with Leigh 100%. Tips are supposed to be a reward for good service or for going above and beyond the call of duty. And yet today if you are expected to leave at least 15% even for lousy service.

    Anyone with a memory should be very humble.

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    Thats how i always worked, anyone who was staff in the club who turned me on to a customer got a tip. If you did nothing for me why tip ?

    Now our housemom was great! And so was the dj, and it was mandatory to tip out the dj. Other than that one very nice club i worked did not charge me a house fee. I worked myself in the ground for that.

    Would have been easier for me to pay the house. It's rental space for me while i was there anyway. But some clubs house fees are way too high! forget that.

    Hustle all night just to tip, tip, and tip again then pay a house fee thats too high, no wonder some dancers just don't care for the scene anymore.

    Everyone has their friggin hand out....
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    My last club actually had signs up all over the dressing room and bathroom telling us that our tips to the housemom were mandatory. It just seemed so pushy and insulting, especially since I hardly ever used her services. When girls said they couldn't afford to tip, this housemom would go off on them to the point of making the girl cry! And the vitriol this woman would sprew about certain dancers when they weren't around! This after going on and on about how she thought we girls were dirty simply for being dancers!!!! I wouldn't have minded tipping her if she was, well, nice and/or helpful. I realize that often they work for tips alone.

    The weight of the negativity surrounding that was terrible. Ugh! Sorry...

    Another version of housemom: at my current club, she is really the costume lady and does hair and makeup. She posts prices for these things which I think is fair and appropriate since she doesn't do any traditional "housemom" stuff besides that.

    Stripclubs, like casinos. are a tipping culture and I was raised in it with my family being involved with the casinos for decades. I just wish that people still had some class about it instead of just rudely standing there with their hand out.
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    Crazy what tipping has turned into - in most cases nowadays tips are expected as opposed to being earned...whatta shame.
    If service above and beyond is received, then tip.
    Isnt that the whole premise?

    Kinda like bathroom attendants I dont know about you people but I HATE that sh*t...
    Its like a ransom, toss me a buck and I will give you some of the paper towels already provided by the establishment to dry your hands....grrrrr. They take over the public towel dispenser, some cases actually remocing the roll and holding it so you are put in the position of requesting paper as opposed to having the option of serving yourself.

    All that other junk bugs me too - mints, and perfume, I have that in my purse!

    sorry off topic but related.... :p
    I agree WHOLLY, Leigh! It seems like in every place in manhattan they have bathroom attendants. I went to brunch the other sunday (keep in mind, in the middle of the day on a SUNDAY), and there was a bathroom attendant at a less than 1/4 crowded French bistro. Helloo??....a little over the top on the attendant thing. It's highly annoying and I DO NOT want to use a public hairbrush, thank you!

    sorry. had to vent as well :-/

    As for the housemom issue, our housemom plays a pretty big role. She also looks over the dressing room , as we don't have private lockers. Different moms do different things. We even have a housedad (but he's kind of annoying and is really a money-grubber). All of our housemoms are either licensed hair stylists or makeup artists, so they cover tattoos & do hair if the girls want....sometimes patch a hole or something in a dress. One house mom brings in fruit & low fat snacks - best of all, they are pretty good for conversation on a boring night or to help if you fall down the stairs with 6 inch stilettos on (which has happened to every one of our girls at least once). I've no problem tipping, as long as they deserve it. The housedad we have, rarely deserves it, so I usually only tip him $10. Besides- he can be creepy sometimes!!

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    Tipping is all about strategy. If a person is in a position to do something for me (send me to good customers, make my schedule or dressing room experience faster, easier, whatever) but doesn't do it, I give them a "maintentence tip" of like five dollars, every time I work. This keeps me off the list of "girls who don't tip." Nobody ever does anything for a girl who's known for not tipping.

    Then the first time they do something for me, I tip them well for it right when they do it. This insures that they will repeat the behavior. If you wait until the end of the shift to tip them, they may appreciate it and they may like you, but they also may not make the connection (even if you tell them) between the tip and what they did.

    As soon as they are consistantly doing things for me that help me make money, I put them on a random schedule of reinforcement - so sometimes they get a wonderful tip, sometimes they get a normal tip, sometimes they don't get anything, and every once in a while they get a good chunk of money kind of tip. This keeps them on their toes trying to make me happy... and I like that :-)

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    "a woman who sat in the bathroom all night with snacks. "


    :o

    Please tell me I am not the only one who read that and went EEEEWWWWWWW!!!!

    I am now picturing some lady sitting in a bathroom offering me a twinkie as I come out of the stall or something.

    Just kidding Miss George!

    So it seems that the House Mom role varies a lot with different clubs or areas of the country. So I guess you use the old rule, "When in Rome..."

    But as someone who has owned a business for thrity years, I have to say that Lena is really sharp with her "strategic Tipping" idea.
    Anyone with a memory should be very humble.

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    You may find it unusual that a bartender is expressing these sentiments, but "mandatory tipping" no matter what has really gotten out of control. How many times have you gone to a restaurant/diner/greasy spoon and had truly horrendous service, yet you felt compelled to give a good tip out of the waiter/waitress would cause a scene over it?

    I am a big goofball behind the bar, but I am a responsible, professional goofball. It’s all well and good to crack sarcastic jokes and goof around with your patrons, but they wouldn't care about any of that unless they are being properly served as well. If they don’t have their drinks in a timely matter, all the goofiness in the world won’t make a difference. Thus, I strive to take care of them - and I earn my tips. I know very well that my tips aren’t mandatory - I have to work for them.

    Far far far too many service industry people just mark time and expect that the minimal amount of effort is all that they need to earn their tips. It’s ludicrous. If you, the customer, tip generously to these people, you are only re-enforcing their belief that they can make money without even a modicum of effort. It’s a two way street folks. You give a bad tip for truly bad service, then it may be another step in getting that person out of the service so someone who potentially cares more can get into it. This applies to waiters/waitresses, door people, DJs, housemoms, Maytag Repairmen etc etc etc.

    Give a good tip for good service.. and a bad tip for bad service. Both ways you win out in the end.

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    god were i work the house mom does nothing but bitch and take the tip out.. and do sceduals.. our club only has 20 girls total why there needs to be a house mom for 20 girls is beyond me.. and we HAVE to tip her 10 every day.. actually they add that to the tip out along with the dj bouncer tip the bartender and dude at the front that takes money... which makes our tip out 92+ a day... i think they should get what i feel they deserve not this you have to pay this much crap

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    Tipping is all about strategy. If a person is in a position to do something for me (send me to good customers, make my schedule or dressing room experience faster, easier, whatever) but doesn't do it, I give them a "maintentence tip" of like five dollars, every time I work. This keeps me off the list of "girls who don't tip." Nobody ever does anything for a girl who's known for not tipping.

    Then the first time they do something for me, I tip them well for it right when they do it. This insures that they will repeat the behavior. If you wait until the end of the shift to tip them, they may appreciate it and they may like you, but they also may not make the connection (even if you tell them) between the tip and what they did.

    As soon as they are consistantly doing things for me that help me make money, I put them on a random schedule of reinforcement - so sometimes they get a wonderful tip, sometimes they get a normal tip, sometimes they don't get anything, and every once in a while they get a good chunk of money kind of tip. This keeps them on their toes trying to make me happy... and I like that

    It's all about taking what you have and turning it into what you want..

    Lena
    Lena, are you a psych major? Excellent examples of behavior modification!

    I guess our housemom generally honors my schedule requests, but I still would feel odd tipping her. It would almost seem unproffessional, I guess because I don't think anyone else does. I wonder if it would seem innappropriate in the way thattipping a manager or the owner would. I worry it would look like I was requesting favoritism.

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    if shes really doing nothing more than collecting housefees and enforcing rules, i see no reason to tip her.

    but most housemoms do much more than this. the housemoms where i have worked, for the most part, have been very motherly and charitable. they cook from scratch and bring food for the dancers, they help with hair and nails, they rub your shoulders if youre feeling sore. if you lose a rubber pad on your shoe, the housemom should have one for you to replace it with. its her role to aid in any mishaps that might happen in the club or to your personally.

    if she treats you well, then tip her well.

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    Anais, I'm a dog trainer :-)

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    Anais, I'm a dog trainer :-)

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    I'm a good tipper, always have been. I've actually dumped a couple guys because they were bad tippers when we'd go out. I tip housemoms whether or not I use their stuff, without complaint. Of course, if I really like her I'll tip more. I tip the DJs well too. These people have jobs and, like it or not, it's up to us to pay their salary.

    IMO people who complain, about others always having their hands out, are typically tight-asses.

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    Tight ass? LOL! I have been called worse LOL!!! I just think that expecting a "tip" is riduculous as opposed to EARNING a tip.

    I too tip - and quite well I might add, but I bristle at anyone who 'expects' to be tipped - it goes against the entire concept.

    Perhaps changing it to the name of FEE might overturn the bad taste in one's mouth - as many of the cases cited here imply.

    ANd I dont tip cuz I "LIKE" them more or less than any other - inasmuch as I like to tip according to service provided.
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    "bristle" girl, you really are Canadian! I had to look that one up. Y'all got some crazy lingo, this Texan girl just can't compete

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    I only tip the housemom at my club when I shower at work, using the products she buys every month, or do my hair and use the styling stuff. She is paid on salary. I really don't see her much since I stay on the floor as much as possible during my shift, so I don't see it necessary to tip for things I'm not using...

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    ANd I dont tip cuz I "LIKE" them more or less than any other - inasmuch as I like to tip according to service provided.
    Leigh.... I could not agree more way to many people "expect to be tipped" I like to tip because they did a great job or they went beyond their job.

    I do however understand that alot of peoples pay is based on tips as well however if this is the case you would think that they would realize that the better the job /jobs are done the better the tip.
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    Leigh..i hear ya. hell, if Im going to just give out tips to people who didnt even bother earning them, I might as well just go around giving $5 to everyone I see on the street!

    if you just sit there and say 'well im housemom you HAVE to tip me" well. FUCK you honey! but if you actually seem like youre trying...well, Ill tip you out the ass.

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    Leigh.... I could not agree more way to many people "expect to be tipped" I like to tip because they did a great job or they went beyond their job.

    I do however understand that alot of peoples pay is based on tips as well however if this is the case you would think that they would realize that the better the job /jobs are done the better the tip.
    EXACTLY. i mean, imagine us strippers just standing on the stage, waiting for a tip. just standing there. well, we rely on you men for our salary so come give it to us!

    NOT!

    we work for our money, as everyone should. and the more effort we put in, the more money we make. simple.

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    even though it is technically illegal, many northeast clubs REQUIRE that dancers tip the house mom, DJ and bouncers a certain minimum amount. If you do NOT come up with the minimum tips, you won't be allowed to book future shifts in the club and you'll be replaced by another dancer who will - it's that simple.

    PS I'd take "tight ass" as a compliment LOL !

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