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    Hi. I am a house girl who really wants to go above and beyond her work and eventually be a feature. What exactly goes into it? I know that it is a multi-step process, but work is not something I am afraid of. What I would like to know is what exacltly goes into tis process initially? Web recognition? Implants? Emotions? A "look"?I am ready to take it on, and I am not getting any younger. I understand that this can take years, but where do i start? ??? ???

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    Well Juliette i did some features that rocked! Thanks to the fact that i was found posing for Harley Davidson, my python, and the hair. Some say super long legs, 36".

    I was well known around Lauderdale, because i made myself well known.

    I went (at times) and told club owners i give great shows, have a snake that can hang the pole too! And will go nude with any type of music or lighting they can throw at me. water shows, 3DX...

    I have only been in swimming pool magazines, and a few Harley shots, mags.. (along with a mag. i would not care to mention, not proud...sucked).

    But having a certain look is alot for some features, most go with huge boobs. I went with the hair, and snake with a manager (at the time) who set up my shows.

    A couple pictures out of a mag. sometimes helps, people will have seen you. Ok...your are somebody....

    A catchy name helps, and a talent for a stage show that rocks like none other in the club by house dancers!

    Thats all it took for me to feature, and make good $$$.

    It's long hours, some travel at times, and promotion.
    A special talent goes along way!
    If i did not have some exposure down south and my snake (roller blading with him around me in a bikini) who is now almost 12 foot long.....i believe, i don't think i would have been offered one feature at a club.

    Oh and you don't need a manager, all she did was take extra money for booking...Could have done that myself.

    Good luck,
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    Build a resume.

    Things that make you a marketable commodity. Magazines, as many as possible, television appearances, Rock Videos or filmwork, soft or hardcore porn credits. Even winning bikini contests add to the resume, strip pageants and winning the main title or a sub-title within them makes you marketable.

    Have a show that backs up the hype helps you to get rebooked and or creates a stir withing those clubs that confer amongst eachother on who is worth what including getting a booking at all.
    Gimmick - not always necessary but can help surely dont hurt none either. Whether its your 'snake' show or that you have triple MMM tits, or that you do a 40 minute production worthy of Zeigfreid & Roy!! (such as Jane Jones, that girl had snakes monkeys and a tiger, she played the flute on stage with doves balanced on the flute, she played the saxophone naked - they would bill her outside on the marquis as "LIVE SAX ON STAGE!" LOL! She did paint, fire and water did gymnastics had a trapeze - all within the one performance...plus all the animals and musical instruments)

    Just some fodder to consider.
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    These days fewer and fewer clubs are booking features, and those that are booking features are asking for fewer shows per day on fewer days with a correspondingly smaller paycheck. This is simply a concession to the fact that club earnings are suffering just as much as dancer earnings.

    When a club does hire a feature, the intent of the clubowner is to bring in a girl who has some recognizable and promotable name or attribute which will draw the attention of guys who have never before been club customers when they see her advertised in a local paper, on a billboard, or on the club's marquis.

    There are basically three "categories" of features. The first (and the highest paid) are girls who have an extensive list of commercial XXX video credits such that their names, faces and other body parts have been plastered all over video boxcovers at every adult store in the nation. These features combine an extremely recognizable name with the implied promise of a XXX stage show and the remote possibility of some private XXX activity with select rich customers after hours.

    The next "category" of features is girls with extremely promotable non XXX credentials. Here we're talking ex Playboy Playmates, ex Penthouse Pets, ex Miss Nude USA or some other heavy hitting title. The clubowners hire this category of girls because they can use their previous association with Playboy, Penthouse, the Miss Nude USA pageant etc. to promote the girl's appearance in their advertising.

    The third "category" of features is the one I fall into, that is to say girls with some extreme physical characteristic along with a respectable list of other credentials (i.e. TV and magazine appearances other than Playboy/Penthouse). Here we're talking non XXX girls who have cup sizes in the second half of the alphabet, showgirls who are 6 feet tall without shoes, girls who have competition level bodybuilder physiques etc. When hiring these girls, clubowners depend on a picture of the feature causing a "holy shit" reaction when it appears in a local newspaper, billboard, or club marquis.

    Girls that don't fall into one of the above 3 categories and who have lesser credentials are generally considered to be "mini-features". These girls are usually hired by smaller clubs in smaller cities, with lower feature fees. Girls on the mini-feature circuit who do not do XXX (or in particular who do not do private XXX with club customers after hours) are hard pressed financially.

    This translates into driving her own car on Sunday to a new club, getting a cheap motel room, doing 4 shows a day monday thru saturday, and then packing up and driving to the next new club on the following Sunday. The extra feature fee for a Mini-Feature to do six nights four shows might be typically around $1000 these days. Considering that features and mini-features are usually not allowed to stay on the club floor between shows, and must rely primarily on stage tips and sales of amateur videos for other earnings, it's entirely possible to have $2500 weeks or less on the mini-feature circuit these days. If you subtract out the travel and accomodation expenses, actual earnings may not be much higher than working as a house dancer in a local club with decent earnings potential.

    These days, the REAL money in featuring has nothing to do with the clubs. Many girls simply use their club booking to cover their travel expenses and provide a tax write off, and rely on "private shows" such as are advertised on for their REAL income.

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    Jenna jameson feautured at a small local club here by me around 7 years ago and they paid her 6000 for a friday and sat feature,I would think if your really hot and push polaroids wiyh you at 10 and sell pictures and such you can make alot off that, and some even do private dances and charge like 50 a song. question for leigh,did you travel w/ kid rock as one of his dancers?

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    I'm not surprised to hear about Jenna and her $6000 fee a few years ago because A. that was then and this is now (i.e. average feature fees were higher then as the economy was much better and XXX features were still a novelty), and B. Jenna Jamison was and is the best known name in the XXX business making her the #1 XXX feature (and thus able to charge the highest feature fee of anybody). The same principle applies to "fresh" Playboy playmates, the girl with the absolute biggest boobs () etc. These few feature girls are at the top of their classification and command the highest feature fees.

    PS the majority of feature clubs will no longer allow the feature to do private dances with customers in the club, based on complaints from the house dancers. That leaves stage tips, $10 polaroids, $20 video tapes ... and $1000 an hour "private sessions" in the feature's hotel room between shows.

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    Is there any way to get out of the XXX part?! Yeesh! It all seems so unsafe. Is there anything to do mentally to get over that? You know, to forget the fact that I have a Dad and grandparents and a kid brother . I don't mind doing poses or even softcore with another girl. I can't let perfect strangers into my bum, though!!!

    But I bet that's what they all say.
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    You dont have to be in porn to feature, but you do need some kind of name,also melanie,what jenna made was not the norm ,the average feature at that club, even back then when the economy was beter was half that, but the really well known features still get like 3000 for a weekend thing,I remember another real popular feature,scandelous and I think there was one fire and ice, one of the scandelous girls looked alot like jenna.

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    nobody really seems to be mentioning the importance of pageants!! every feature with the exception of big name porn stars have done pageants! There are so many and what better way to see and practice shows . go to exoticnites.com they have pageants all across the country every year . most pageants are in one place and you must do all the traveling with exoticnites they have several and if they don't have one in your state tell your manager about them they are always looking to expand they even have a seperate pageant for women of color miss nude black international they hold it in jamaica . another good thing about pgeants is expose most mens mag's cover these events even the playboy channel has jumped on board and then you can use those as credits also

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    I have noticed that often when they announce features, thet have talk-shows in their credentials.....so I will probably do the Jerry Springer thing and then take pictures in DC for a portfolio I don't really have yet.

    Of course Leigh mentioned pageants! How many have you won already? 3? I placed as a runner up in the first and only one I did- they didn't come too often in El Paso.
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    Is there any way to get out of the XXX part?! Yeesh! ... I can't let perfect strangers into my bum, though!!!
    Sure you can bypass the XXX, but in order to be considered a serious feature without XXX you've either got to have extremely promotable credentials like having been a Playboy Playmate or Penthouse Pet or Miss Nude USA winner, or extremely promotable physical attributes like the huge boobs or being a 6 ft plus showgirl or having a competition level female bodybuilder physique.

    Put yourself in a clubowner's place. He wants to hire a feature to draw new customers to his club. Skipping on the physical attributes based features, he then has a choice between a XXX girl who is beautiful with a somewhat well known name, or a non-XXX girl who is similarly beautiful who also has a somewhat well known name. Unless his club is under severe pressure from local politicians, he's going to choose the XXX girl because of her greater ability to draw in new business for the same feature fee as the non-XXX girl.

    Realistically, if you don't have some outrageous physical attribute, if you don't have Playboy/Penthouse/Miss Nude USA or similar highly advertisable credentials, and if you choose to pass on XXX, it's "mini-feature" time. This means getting paid maybe a $1000 a week feature fee plus maybe $500 a night in stage tips, polaroids, amateur video sales etc. $ 4000 a week gross is nothing to sneeze at, but it also means living out of your car and out of a suitcase and dancing or driving typically 21 straight days at a time with the 4th week off. If you subtract taxes (the clubowners WILL report your feature fee) and expenses (gas, motel, food, tires etc.), it's a borderline situation whether you can net more $$$ in three weeks of mini-featuring plus a week off to get your life back under control versus working 4 weeks at a local club without the extra expenses.

    Just a comment on credentials. In my experience, quantity does not replace quality. When clubowners have a choice of hiring an ex Playboy Playmate/Penthouse Pet, one appearance in these extremely well known magazines is worth 100 appearances in lesser magazines because the clubowners can splash the word Playboy or Penthouse on the top line of their feature advertisements. Same is true of contests/titles, with one win at the Miss Nude USA/World contest being worth 100 local contest wins/runner-ups etc. Again this is true for the same reason - every guy reading a feature ad will know that Miss Nude USA means the big time, but a guy in Peoria reading a feature ad for Miss Nude El Paso would not make the same assumption. Of course, having TV appearance, lesser magazine or lesser contest credentials definitely helps, but it will not catapult you into the upper echelon which can command higher feature fees and it will not give you the advertising 'horsepower' that big city feature clubowners need in order to successfully promote a feature (meaning your chance of being booked in a big city club will be fairly slim).

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    Well *shrug*

    I guess that just means I have got a ton of work to do then. That's Ok. Everybody was at the bottom to start with, or mostly everybody. Melonie, your advice is especially realistic and has put a lot of stuff into perspective. I expect to lose some, I expect to win some. I expect myself to never think that I didn't try hard enough or think "big" . A good perk of being naive is fearlessness . I guess I will take what I can get. And thanks.
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    I wish you much luck and success- the industry being what it is today as oposed to say ten years ago.

    I love(d) being a feature - the best part of the job I always thought was the stage...and all the creative endeavors one can put forth up there. That and the travelling.

    When I started I merely entered pageants in order to get a better price showgirling...I was hoping just for a subsiduary title - y'know like best buns or some such to use towards promoting myself, my first contest I took 5 of the seven titles offered including the main one and the seed was planted! I was on my way! It started with the city then provincial then western Canada up to the Canada's and then the World's which I won. (something like 15 or so in total)

    That was my leg up anyway, did some videos - girl/girl - couldnt bring myself to take on some strange pipe for any kind of credits I didnt care how much money it was or would get me - I just have my lines drawn, we all do yenno? LMAO!
    Some mags, some tv stuff, on and on.

    Anyhow, yup - build the resume, enter anything and everything. Contact the magazines, go watch other feature performers and see if you can do what they do etc etc.
    Build your shows, make them high energy and memorable.
    Its work but what a fun job.

    If you want it? Get after it babe!
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    Bostondancer, I hope you didn't assume that I was "crapping all over" your post about pageants. I myself stated that winning high profile national awards like Miss Nude USA is considered a primo credential for upper echelon featuring. The same would apply to a win at NudesAPoppin, at the Las Vegas annual dancers' show etc. However I also tried to provide some realistic perspective in regard to lesser pageant credentials. While all of these do help, there's a world of difference between winning a national/major league title and being the winner of Miss Nude ____ (fill in blank of any one of 250 medium sized cities who hold such contests) when clubowners consider the advertisability of different features he is considering hiring.

    I totally agree that sharing information is what this website is all about, but every tidbit of information not only needs to be accurate it also needs to be put in perspective. I'm sharing first hand information with you in regard to the marketing process used by feature agents and in regard to the decision making process used by clubowners when choosing to hire one feature versus another ( and when choosing to hire a high priced feature versus a low priced one).

    Before the widespread availability of XXX on cable tv which promotes the names of XXX actresses to guys right in their living rooms, before Playboy Playmates started working on the feature circuit, and before huge boobs/6 ft tall showgirls/female bodybuilders became somewhat common on the feature circuit, pageant credentials played a very large role in the selection process. However, as the "competition" from these other sectors has increased, local pageant credentials (not the big national contests) have essentially become just one more item on a feature's resume about equal in value to appearances in second tier magazines and appearances on TV schlock shows like Jenny Jones.

    It all helps, but some credentials help a lot more than others!

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    Miss Nude Kookamonga - LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    I always seem to totally disagree with the crowd but here I go again.

    Los Angeles is experiencing a 'show girl' explosion. This means that there is a regular club, a strip club or the Forty Deuce (which is nothing BUT feature styled show girls) where a girl can get her bump and grind. Style, costuming and tenacity are all that are required.

    Frankly, don't ever let anyone tell you that you can't have your dream. People have made something out of nothing before. Case and point: I give you Dita Von Teese.

    It is good to take the advisement of others into consideration but in the end, if you are willing to do what it takes and have drive you can create your own little dynasty.

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    Thanks Victoria for pointing out that there are ALWAYS possibilities. Dita von Teeze and her East Coast counterpart Rhiannon (whom I've worked with several times) both prove that it's very possible to achieve tremendous success in a "niche market". However, I really don't have any advice whatsoever to offer in regard to pursuing "niche market" stardom, other than saying that these girls first had to identify that a niche existed and then figure out how they might best fill it.

    Please don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to dissuade girls from trying to pursue the feature market (or the "niche" market either for that matter). All I am trying to do is to relate some of the realities of the feature business, and to help girls understand some of the agent and clubowner business aspects which will impact their potential success.

    I guess that I'm also trying to make girls aware of the challenges which lie ahead of them, particularly in these bad economic times, such that they can make an intelligent business decision if they choose to "give up" the relative stability of house dancing regularly at a local club to "roll the dice" on today's feature circuit. One always needs to weigh the potential gains against the potential consequences, financial, psychological and personal.


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    She featured at Bare Assets some time back. They have alot of features. But don't do well. It's a dive.

    The features stay all of 20 minutes i hear, and don't mingle. Some don't even let you have polaroids with them.

    And Juliette, you can do it. I did! get a good theme, have your portfolio if you feel it helps,
    But some clubs take beautiful women who have that certain something....Whatever that may be for you.

    You DO NOT need playboy behind you. Just something that makes you be fantastic! A talent...anything great!

    Have you ever seen some of the features.....GOSH, how sad. Really.
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    Have I just been in this business too long ? Are some people just living in their own little "dream worlds" ? Or do I have a bad case of recto-cranial inversion such that I should just shut the f$%k up ?
    Melonie, I doubt that you're right all the time, because no one is. But you're on top of the curve.

    I always appreciate your posts which are generally dispassionate. You have a knack for pointing out the underlying truths of a given issue - that it will be resolved in favor of profit, wherever that may lead. You have opinions on right and wrong things in the world, but you're also knowledgeable enough to know that reality won't always square with our opinions, no matter how loud we voice them.

    You're a treasure here and greatly appreciated.

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    Melonie surprises me sometimes with the nature of her expertise. It is soooo precise, citing court cases, personal experience and wise perspective. This industry does that to an already intelligent woman-thrusts reality into her face, and the true nature of things. That's empowerment. Hopefully, we are all on the road to that.
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    Jason, I know I'm not right all of the time. I'm certainly not right when the economic or legal circumstances which applied to areas of my own personal experience are different from those other girls are experiencing themselves in different locations. I also try to be as precise as I can be, because finding out the original legal / tax / financial info cost me mucho dinero in lawyers and accountant's fees and mucho arguments with agents and clubowners, which hopefully I can share with anyone who finds it useful to save them similar legal / accountant costs and agent / clubowner arguments.

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    Even if you did have retro-cranial inversion I still don't think you or anyone else should shut the fuck up. I think when people read threads and get pissy b/c they feel they are personally being attacked or dissed, they should reread it to be sure they understand b/4 they get huffy. People on this board and in real life have a problem with direct language.
    Example: Ever been at work and see someone ask someone for something like some of their food? Do people usually simply say no, or do they feel compelled to offer some explanation first such as well, I don't have that much or this is my last one or its almost gone. They all mean no so why can't they just say it. Picture the same situation and a person simply saying no and resuming their activity. She's mean, she's a bitch, blah blah blah b/c she didn't tell you what u wanted to hear and what you are used to hearing. Truth is truth and for those that do not want to hear it fine just stop reading.

    *This now concludes my bitchy statement of the day*Feel free to resume normal activities at this time.

    I lied. I just reread the end of the previous paragraph and caught myself about to go back and put in a disclaimer so that noone would think that this was specifically directed at them, but thats the same as offering an explanation. So, if ne1 thinks this is about them it is.

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    I'm surprised nobody mentioned the Pure Talent Feature Dance School: http://www.pure-talent.com/school/ I've attended it and would recommend it to anyone who thinks they might want to feature.

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    If you wanna feature in Pittsburgh these's a place called Club Elite.They've had Jenna Jamison,Destiny Duval,Jessica Justice,ect..They pay well I hear.It could be good.
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    Hey girl, I've been featuring for 11 years, and while it is tough it's been worth it I have had a little "underground" feature school for 4 years, and have put out some of the bigger names in the business...I'd like to say who, but I keep that info. top secret! There are lots of great girls who work a lot who have never done porn ( I can't believe someone remembers Jane Jones!) Sometimes you don't make much more money than you would house dancing, but if it makes your job enjoyable isn't that important? I love my job not a lot of dancers can say that. Good luck to u Ms. de Sade. (i've read most of the marquis' books and I am a fan,lol)
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