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    "On Friday, Dumit said, officers also raided four strip clubs in Kansas City. Officers went into the clubs posing as customers and watched for violations, such as dancers allowing money to be put in unauthorized areas of their outfits. About 40 dancers were arrested and charged. " - http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...al/6090254.htm

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    From the article:

    Twenty law enforcement agencies participated in the weeklong bust that covered cities in Jackson, Clay, Platte and Cass counties in Missouri and Johnson, Wyandotte and Leavenworth counties in Kansas.

    "It was a fabulous week," said Kansas City Police Sgt. Brad Dumit, who supervises the vice unit. "Nobody can recall doing anything with this many agencies for this purpose."

    Dumit said he hopes the effort will be the beginning of a long-term, collaborative fight against prostitution across the area and across state lines.


    TWENTY LE agencies? Thats like dropping a fuel-air weapon to kill a few mosquitoes isn't it? If I were working in any adult business in the KC Metro, I'd be a little bit concerned.

    I'd also be on the horn to KCPD and other LE agencies in the area on why so much manpower (not to mention tax dollars) are being WASTED on such a non problem. I assure everyone that the methamphetamine problem poses a much greater risk to the public, but then again I suppose busting strippers (allowing money to be placed in unauthorized areas of their outfits? For crying out loud, have they nothing better to enforce?) is a lot more fun, then going on a no-knock raid at a suspected meth house. Strippers generally don't shoot back.

    I wouldn't go screaming to the media about it, but relentlessly flooding the police dispatcher with angry calls, day and night for the next two or three weeks doesn't sound like a bad idea, particularly if all the callers say something along the lines of "...and I vote dammit!!".
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    Thats B.S.

    Cops don't have anything bigger to do than set-up a sting at some clubs . B.S.

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    Must be getting near election time in K.C

    Anyone here read RollingStone? If so did you see the article on the head shops in the last issue.... another wonderful example of abuse of power.

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    Not to be the eternal pessimist, but consider the following ...

    KC's city coffers will now be $40,000 richer because each of those 40 dancers will probably be fined $1000.

    KC's conservative politicians will now assure themselves of an overwhelming majority of re-election votes from the religious right, retirees, housewives etc. who consider "cleaning up the KC clubs" to be a positive thing.

    The 40 dancers who were busted will also likely have to cough up $500-$1000 apiece in legal fees to get out of this with just a fine and a low level misdemeanor charge. Dancers who try to use a public defender will likely to get a fine plus probation, meaning KC cops will be poking around their lives for the next year or two.

    The 40 busted dancers will no longer be able to obtain a dancing license in Atlanta, Vegas or any other city that requires a license, because their criminal record will now likely show a misdemeanor charge for violating this KC dancing ordinance. Virtually every dancer's licensing agency will use the record of "violating a similar ordinance in another jurisdiction" as grounds to disapprove dancer's license applications.

    The 40 busted dancers will now have to list the low level misdemeanor charge on all future straight job applications, with the expected negative effect on prospective employers.

    "Abuse of power" or not, the fact remains that dancers violating these ordinances are "easy pickings" for local police, they are easy money for local courts, they create political mileage for local politicians, and the general public is either glad it happened or at the very least unwilling to lend any support to prevent it from happening again.

    The other fact that KC dancers are likely to discover is that the Escorts who were busted for having sex for money probably got exactly the same low level misdemeanor charge and exactly the same fine as the busted dancers. All this does is provide an incentive for KC dancers to start doing more "extras" so that they can save up enough money to hire a good lawyer when the next bust occurs!

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    That's a mere jaunt north of me and in the same state..... anyone ever wanting to question why I strive so anally to run an ultra clean club. I await my test of the ordinance's and law's that govern club's in my area. It's just a matter of time before it hit's here too, I can only hope I read everything right. Good luck all my friend's up north, my heart goes out to you.

    Too often girl's work in club's and aren't informed that what they are doing is or can be construed as illegal. I can only imagine that a large number of those girl's got busted for something they may not have known was illegal.

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    Another article (quite amusing actually) regarding this very same police sting in Kansas City. Apparently the "religious right" and law enforcement people themselves can't stay out of trouble. And these people think they have to right to make and enforce the rules for the rest of us? Puh-lease!
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    http://newstribune.com/stories/07050...0705030016.asp

    Hmm, I wonder what kind of sentence these guys are gonna get? I assure you it won't be NEAR what the dancers and escorts will have to pay.
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    I agree, Bob, that in lots of cases clubowners are not entirely "forthright" in regard to the exact content of local ordinances. Sometimes they simply don't know any better. Other times they DO know better, but they also know that reducing contact levels down to those allowed by the ordinance will result in fewer club customers and fewer private dance sales, which would cost the clubs money. Since it's almost always the dancers and not the club which is busted, the clubowner really has nothing to lose by allowing excessive contact by dancers to continue with the club continuing to pocket the extra earnings.

    Other times the dancers ARE aware that the expected levels of contact are actually "across the dotted line" in regard to local laws. However, they face the choice of staying 100% legal and earning peanuts while fellow dancers cross the dotted line, or crossing the dotted line themselves like all of the other dancers taking a calculated risk that the additional earnings will be much greater than the potential bust and fines. This is probably the most difficult situation that dancers find themselves in, knowing that they are "bending the law" on a daily basis, but also knowing that if they don't they might as well put in an application at WalMart or MacDonalds.

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    In a bust like this, do the police only arrest the dancers that they have actually seen giving extras or do they just round up every dancer in the club? If so then the dancers following the law would be at risk just by being in a club where the laws were being broken.

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    Too often girl's work in club's and aren't informed that what they are doing is or can be construed as illegal. I can only imagine that a large number of those girl's got busted for something they may not have known was illegal.
    All too true Bob. Unfortunatly ignorance of law rarely if ever works with a judge.

    X52- in the bust I was part of the arrested every dancer working that night as well as most of the customers. How they get away with this I just don't know ???
    What laws were being broken- a six foot distance law -which we thought applied only to full nude clubs- our club was pasties and no contact and arms length was the clubs distance rule.
    The dancers were charged with distance violations or pasties violations- apparently some pasties were a little ( we're talking 1/4 inch here) smaller than legal in an alcohol club-completely stupid right... anyway the customers were charged with distance violations. All these laws are listed under sex crimes in the city ordinance. And everyone involved has a sex crime arrest now on there record. Nice, right.

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    " X52- in the bust I was part of the arrested every dancer working that night as well as most of the customers. How they get away with this I just don't know Huh "

    That really sucks. Think about it, by using that standard then if an employee of a bank embezzles funds every teller in the bank should get busted for the same offense.
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    Having to compete with prostitution in my own club, I'm no fan of it either. However as a fellow tax payer, I'm far more concerned with oh, say, the possibility of terrorists residing in my state.

    A topless club in my city was recently raided and shut down. I cant help but think my club is next unfortunatly, what goes on at my club is far worse that at that one that was raided.

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    I worked in KC Kansas in the early 90's at the former Legs and Shadows when money was great and one night all of us were arrested and the city was trying to file charges against the clubs which stuck and every dancer was ordered to appear in court to testify on a variety of issues against the club owners. We were not even allowed to clear out our lockers and the clubs were closed.

    When I was in Memphis during a vice raid, the cops picked the girls they wanted to arrest and fortunately told me they didn't want me. Now they write $99 citations to the girls. I received one 4 years ago before I moved away and never paid it. It never affected me being licensed in Las Vegas and Henderson NV, Wichita KS, Sioux City IA, or Houston.

    At some point many of you will be busted or escape a bust by the skin of your teeth in this business. Most of the time the cops are just trying to justify their jobs. Even if you feel you are obeying the law, you are most likely not and can be taken in if the cops feek especially agressive that day. Even in the clubs that pay off the cops, the cops still warn the club owners that they will have to 'take in a few girls' from time to time. That is where it is important to be in good with the managers so that they can help shield you or warn you of a bust.

    All of you guys who feel this is a waste of tax dollars should organize and be heard. I keep hearing guys talk about how stupid it is to worry about dancer contact and prostitution but no one aggressively gathers signatures and makes a stink about it.

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    Tina, you're lucky that Memphis considers breaking it's dancing ordinance as a "violation", legally the same seriousness as a speeding ticket and not recorded on permanent criminal records. Most cities consider a violation of their dancing ordinance to be a misdemeanor, the same as prostitution, petty theft, or possessing a small quantity of weed, which is recorded on permanent criminal records for any future cop, judge, employer, family court or private detective to see. In some cities, it's also recorded as a sex crime, which may also bring into play local laws requiring that a busted dancer report to her neighbors that she is a "sex criminal" under a child molester law. These draconian ordinances are a far cry from a $99 ticket !

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    OMG, a sex criminal ? A dancer gets busted for illegal activities inside a club, and she can be charged with being a sex criminal ?
    Like the child molesters ? In the same category or what.

    Never heard of that one. Don't doubt it for a second. What the heck is wrong with the system. Next it will be a hazzard to dance, period.
    You know a hygien issue too. Gee anything they can throw at ya they will! Sad.

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    Tina's on track about the memphis thing except way back when VICE used to be nicer. Now, It depends on whose clubs you work for, what the political agenda is, and whether or not they decided they have a quota to make for the nite. The tickets have now gone up to $125-150 I believe for the simple public nudity charge they write up. However, they do write up some girls as pornographic conduct or pornographic public exhibition and other such nonsense. It is like a traffic ticket in a way, but if your stuff is run it still shows up. Best to not pay, have a lawyer get it dismissed and expunged. That'll run you around a $100 with almost any lawyer thats familiar with the Memphis sytem b/c they only need your citation number and you never have to go to court. Your lawyer will speak to the judge or DA in passing and let them know its a dancer ticket and thats the end. If you go in there by yourself with the I didn't do it thing if you have no previous record you may get out of it. If you have prior tickets you have to pay it b/c obviously you did it before.
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    Yep. This is part of the reason I make the drive to work in West Virginia. Even a misdemeanor sex crime conviction or ticket or whatever could seriously and permanently mess up the work that I do with kids.

    In WV, when a club is raided, no one is arrested, the club is fined and the club will get shut down for two days, four days, seven days, or two weeks. There was even a case recently where a girl offered a variety of sexual services to two undercover cops for money in the VIP, and did several illegal things in there (contact and nudity wise, I mean) and she didn't get arrested, but the club got closed for two weeks.

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