I believe in God (a supreme being), and i just go about my business with out trying "not" to hurt others.
I believe in God (a supreme being), and i just go about my business with out trying "not" to hurt others.
my oppion is that being is a christian is a Good thing im one myself but ill trll you right now that the guilt dose eat you up...it did me thats why i cant work like i use to in the club i stop and go again and it sucks cause i keep trying to tell myself that danceing is not a sin but it is cause guys and woman are lusting over you in a sinful way and God dosent like that so i dont think youll be able to stay danceing for very long but you never no Good Luck!!!Precious
Nightrider, I am writing with a genuine curiousity. I'm about to take the plunge into the business, and I know it is an unusual topic, but I am an unusual girl and would like to hear many points of view. I enjoyed reading what you wrote.
Thank you all, for giving me some very thought-provoking responses.
Zofia, what you said about countering the possible sins of stripping with love, humility, temperance, etc. makes sense. I approach whatever situation I'm in reaching out with God's love inside me (hopefully). Of course I try not to get into situations where I'll be forced to go against my morals, but stripping is something I've always fantasized about. And getting naked seems like an okay thing to me!
Do you guys feel like you are doing good in the world in your line of work? Do you feel you are reaching out to lonely men, maybe making life a little more tolerable?
Maybe I'm idealistic and don't know what I'm talking about. But I'm sort of wondering about this more psychological aspect. I'm sure I'll find out for myself once I actually get started.
I'm also a jeweler. I see stripping as a good money-maker to help myself set up the business.
Ideally, I would like to do work where I know I'm helping someone.
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Making a business of stripping? Do you think a singer, a comedians talents, or the beauty of a flower should be presented to only a specified crowd? So what if they charge to bring their services and beauty to the masses.
I simply think that God wants us all to make each other happy and take care of each other. That seems consistent with the teachings of Jesus Christ. I don't care what some idiot says from the pulpit. Stripping and J.C. are okay with me.
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Beautiful. Rock on!




Philosopher Martin Luther , same guy who established the denomination, challenged the church during the middle ages. From the scriptures he could only derive 2 sacraments as opposed to the 7 determined by the clergy. That of Baptism and the eatting of Christ's flesh. His writtings angered the church who already excommunicated him. He saw the other 5 sacraments as elaborations developed by the clergy to extend their power. He said that people have a personal relationship with God that didn't require the mediation of the church. It's really up to us to establish the relationship with God. You ,personally will have to answer to him, not the church.
I imagine that's the reason Moses descended the mountain without a commandment reguarding slavery, drugs, or cloning.
Martin Luther was much braver than I am. He was faced with the inquesition. However, his philosophy spread like wildfire and perhaps the church was afraid of his popularity. He was a person of conviction and lived up to it.
Do you mean Solome's Dance of the Seven Veils, Leigh? I don't know if that was in the bible, though it might be. I mean, it was the head of John the Baptist, after all.
About the topic: the most important part of this job and your life is the level of comfort that you have in your SELF....the whole you, not just the stripper-you or the Christian-you. If you think it is wrong for you to strip as a Christian, then it is. If you don't then keep doing what you are doing.
People don't discuss theology in SC's. Not typically. But don't use the name of God to rat out your fellow dancers. Please don't tell anyone that Jesus will punish them. you would get lots of disgusted looks. If you do decide to stay, I would not discuss it at all at work. Keep it in your heart. But be true to it......
Juliette dS
The Texas Pin-up Stripteuse!
I am a Christian. I do what I have to do to support my family, though I do feel guilty about it at times. I know Jesus died for my sins, but I always wonder,, if the rapture happened, would I be left behind. I keep this to myself and don't bring it up in the club, my realationship with Christ is MY OWN realationship, I will have fellowship with girls if they want, but we go to Denny's for that, prancing around in a g string while discussing the bible makes me feel like I am mocking Him, so I separate the two, pray for forgivness, and pray to have better faith in Him so that I may be braver, to trust His pattern of life He has chosen for me, rather than scrathing away on my own terms.
**Live Long And Prosper**




I saw this show about a musician's plight in Pakistan. He went to the elders to gain the approval for his practice. They were Muslims. First he went to a group of elderly men and asked to play some verses from the Koran set to music. Although they liked the melody they said the Koran forbids you to play music.
Then he went to the spirtual leaders and inquired why does the Koran forbid music while it santions the Sufis (those people who play instruments and dance to it, notably the whirling dervishes). They said music has no place in the Koran and that what the Sufis' are doing is purifying the soul.
Well I don't know about them but anyone who sets motion to the rhythmic sounds of an instrument is playing music.
I can see the practicality of such laws as thou shalt not kill or thou shalt not steal but I think these elderly simply have a warped logic.



I caught this one too...Raquel, Madeline was J.C.'s right hand woman, not man.
Dreamer:
"So disrobing in public is a sin? What did they do before vestments from textiles or animal pelts were invented? Were they all condemned to Hell? You mean God required Man to invent garments to comply with his laws? I think not."
Oh gimme a break! They were without clothing, not dancing provocatively in exchange for pointy rocks or Dodo bird dinner.
Dreamer:
" You've heard the rationality that if God wanted Man to fly he would have given him wings. By the same logic, if God didn't want us to be naked ,why did he have us shed most of our hairly coating?"
It's called adaptation. Global warming and what not, caused by human pollution. By the same logic, God gave humankind our most powerful tool... a brain! Thus, we do have wings, we do fly.
I'm Catholic because I'm comforted by our traditions and history. Grew up Cathloic.
I'm intrigued by other religions as well.
Read the Koran, Budiest bible (bedside nightstand in Hawian hotel.) and I often attend church with my Messianic Jewish mother.
Basically, I need all the saving I can get... One of these has to be my ticket to redemption




Naomi, exactly what are you saying? Are you saying you need a religion for your own salvation? You're right ,God gave us a brain and with it he/she intended us to think.
I caught this one too...
Dreamer:
"So disrobing in public is a sin? What did they do before vestments from textiles or animal pelts were invented? Were they all condemned to Hell? You mean God required Man to invent garments to comply with his laws? I think not."
Oh gimme a break! They were without clothing, not dancing provocatively in exchange for pointy rocks or Dodo bird dinner.
Dreamer:
" You've heard the rationality that if God wanted Man to fly he would have given him wings. By the same logic, if God didn't want us to be naked ,why did he have us shed most of our hairly coating?"
It's called adaptation. Global warming and what not, caused by human pollution. By the same logic, God gave humankind our most powerful tool... a brain! Thus, we do have wings, we do fly.
I'm Catholic because I'm comforted by our traditions and history. Grew up Cathloic.
I'm intrigued by other religions as well.
Read the Koran, Budiest bible (bedside nightstand in Hawian hotel.) and I often attend church with my Messianic Jewish mother.
Basically, I need all the saving I can get... One of these has to be my ticket to redemption
That's exactly what I'm doing. Thinking for myself. So when some self -proclaimed religious mullah says that the sufis are not making music on their instruments why do they condemn this musician for putting the words of the koran to music? My rational says that they're wrong.
That's what I think God wants us to do , think for ourselves , not just accept someone else's interpretation of it.
mama wake up you hot or cold you cant be luke warm or you will be spit out if you a christain then you would know what that means . to me thier is nothing wrong with taking your cloths off except you are causing men to lust for you that being a sin also. im sorry for puting it that way but thats how it is. being naked is not a sin. the as you read the bible you will find that it is writen it would be vetter for you not to have been born than to cause someone to sin your causing people to lust for you thier for causing them to sin. im just telling you what the word says. . I've heard that God's command that the people not engage in homosexuality was only a temporary one,because he wanted the population to procreate at that time. (I've heard that the cities of Sodom and Gommorah were simply concepts. You have to put words into context. <----- as far as that my reply) is the earth being a woman and a sead being a man when one go's into the other they produce life earth and earth cannot just as sead with sead cannot weather you belive in GOD or nature it was desined one to work wth the other.
The only Bush i like is between your legs.
Can we repeat that in english this time?
what do you mean by that B dj
The only Bush i like is between your legs.
I mean can we please retype the post so it can be read. I had to read it 3 times and it gave me a headache trying to decipher your typos.



Ive seen others on this board whose literacy is, to say the very least, incomprehendable. (sic?)Originally Posted by Blade is a D.j. link=board=1;threadid=789;start=msg125516#msg12551 6 date=1087792565
You have no right to make rude comments about anything anyone is doing that is not hurting anyone.
I have not seen you point out anyone elses grammar misfortune. Why him?
how can i put this b dj ummmm lets see KISS MY azzzz lol
The only Bush i like is between your legs.
cali-tiff your man is very lucky to have your love you are one of if not the most caring and sweetest people on this site. thank you.
The only Bush i like is between your legs.
Like I said, I had to re read that post several times and still have no idea what was being said....I wasn't being rude.... that was polite and to the point.Originally Posted by Cali_Tiffany link=board=1;threadid=789;start=msg125522#msg12552 2 date=1087793702
First off my name is Blade not b dj, secondly there was no reason to be nasty or rude. I simply asked ya to read through your post and fix the typos so that I could try to understand your point.........Originally Posted by urnemesis link=board=1;threadid=789;start=msg125524#msg12552 4 date=1087794035
your writin tone was sarcastic
The only Bush i like is between your legs.



Blade is always sarcastic. Hun I lived in Jersey City and not even I could understand your post. Try to keep your posts in plain english please. Theres no point in bein ghetto on the net LOL.
You think you know... but you have no idea!
thier you go putin your foot in your mouth callin me getto what makes you think im getto. maybe i was out with friends having drinks and was tipsy or the battrery in my spell checker ran out or when i type fast i missspell words. but noooooooooooooo i got to be getto maybe but so was colin powel jlo mark anthony p didy just to name a few getto people .i post cause they got some very nice people on this site not for an education or anything of the sort. in person i can assure you even doe i am from the getto you would never notice it. i got my edumacation lol.
The only Bush i like is between your legs.



hahaha ROTFLmaybe i was out with friends having drinks and was tipsy or the battrery in my spell checker ran out or when i type fast i missspell words. but noooooooooooooo
ps- i didnt know spell checkers are run on batteries... just kiddin.
"even doe" <--what makes you think im getto.
and you live in the Bronx
please notice the "LOL" after my sarcastic comment. not meant to offend. here it comes... everyone in the bronx is gonna start attacking me now. at least i took some heat off blade's (B dj) back LOL.
You think you know... but you have no idea!



by da way... sum peoples write da way day tawk which is supa-finnnnnne but when it gets 2 da point wherez no1 can undastand it, dats when we allz need 2 type in english. holla!
dis post is meant in a totally sarcastic manner! aight one!!!
You think you know... but you have no idea!
your a littile girl so i wont reply with anything except children should be seen not heard when adults are conversing anyone not allowed to drink or smoke should mind they bizz kid.
The only Bush i like is between your legs.
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