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    I am seeing a lot of conspicuous cocaine/marijuana use BY MY LOCKER in the dressing room. I am of the opinion that this jeopardizes me and that if *I* see it, they are being way to obvious etc. I could give a $hi+ what people do at home, but I don't like having drug deals transpire where I am working.
    I am tempted to rat out the people doing this (and blow jobs)- there are already too many girls and these drag us down. Is this totally taboo in this business, or can I reasonably complain if I see it going on?

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    Unfortunately, most club managers couldn't care less if the girls are using drugs in the club. They are more concerned with making sure they get enough girls in the door to pay the house fees and tipouts they want than whether the club is run properly.

    At my club, the manager commented to me once that he wished the girls and staff would refrain from bringing drugs on the premises, but that if he fired everyone who used drugs at work we'd lose 75% of the bouncers, barstaff, doormen and dancers. From what I see on a daily basis, he's right.

    In the event of a raid it's typically the dancers and maybe staff who get arrested for drug possession, not management and the club isn't cited as having anything to do with it. Some club owners/managers may even give drugs to girls, but they certainly won't be getting arrested for the distribution!

    Unless you know your club and management to be anti-drug (even if they say it doesn't mean they really care), I wouldn't bother ratting anyone out for using drugs.

    As for the blowjobs, that's a toughie. If the club is generally clean and you know management to be concerned, consider DIsCRETELY telling. But be careful, ratting may just get you labeled as a troublemaker and result in nothing being done about the real trouble. If alot of girls are doing BJs, don't bother telling - management already knows and they don't care.

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    My management doesn't care either and it's frustraing, but I see his dilemma. So many girls are drug users and to let them go would mean losing a lot of girls. He usually lets them stay unless their drug use prevents them from doing their job properly.

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    I agree, unless the club enforces their policy on drugs, I wouldn't bother reporting it. It's one thing if the girls do it discreetly. But if the drugs and extras are happening that frequently, I would look for a cleaner club. Just my opinion.

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    Alexis, two things which you must absolutely determine before you attempt this is how concerned the clubowner might actually be, and how 'connected' the drug using dancers are. You do not want to find yourself in a situation where the clubowner winds up putting YOU on his shitlist for causing trouble in his club, and you definitely do not want to wind up on the shitlist of the drug using dancers homies. The first can be very bad for your business, and the second can be very bad for your health!

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    NO. It is not tabboo in the business to "rat someone out". I have done my fair share, and with great consequences. Good management always helps of course. What i did when i saw the activity was behave like i did not. (the users did not see me, was what i went for, and it works if it is done in front of others faces). . Go get management right away and tell them to see this shit.

    I also pointed out that a few undercover PD's come in from time to time because i seen them on the street. It always helps to let the club know police DO come in. Oh and they do. Just perhaps never saw they activity yet.

    When i danced, i always said "no way, not where i am working. To hell with that crap. It's clubs and Friggin scum that gets people busted, drags others down, causes fights, etc. Nothing good comes out of drugs, or any illegal,activity in a club.

    It's a chance you take, you want a shitty club, or a good one. And the good ones are still out there. It's about time management takes friggin responsibility for the clubs they own and run.

    If no one ever said anything, imagine what happens, like in all cases. Bottom line, if they do nothing, you don't belong there. And as far as the low lifes, leave them behind to ruin their lives, and get busted. Management too.
    Remember too, a good dancer telling about drug use in the workplace is more common than you think.

    Sad, but maybe management will tell them to do it in thier car before entering work.
    I would never work in a place where i "knew/saw" it was going on.
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    Pamela I agree completely that in a 'good' club, where the owner is a professional and runs the club professionally, that it's in everyone's best interest to 'rat out' bad influences like drug use, extras etc. But this is based on the premise that the clubowner actually doesn't want drugs and extras in his club, and also on the premise that there will not be any backlash from the club itself, from the majority of dancers there who are not using drugs or doing extras, or from the homies of girls who wind up getting fired. In an upscale club this is almost certainly the case, particularly if the club is frequented by cops.

    However, in a 'less upscale' club, where the clubowner ignores/accepts/promotes drug use and extras, where a couple of drug related killings happen in the neighborhood every month, and where the cops won't come into the club's neighborhood unless there are dead bodies on the sidewalk, the outcome of one dancer 'ratting out' drug use or extras is likely to have an entirely different end result.

    I also agree with your other point that the best thing that can be done under this situation is to simply get the hell out of there in favor of a more upscale club.


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    Yea, it's a tough call. Me being me, and if i make good money, i tell. But i see the point. It can go either way here. And i am sure it does work in favour at times, and not.
    Shit holes like that need to keep getting nailed until they are so high in fines they can't open back up. I know drugs are big amoung dancers, but gee, get them the heck out of there. It's dancing, and does not "have to come with the territory".
    Bad owners of clubs, are like bad owners of pit bull terriers, dangerous for those who surround themselves with the problem.

    I did visit one club that blew my mind, drugs galore! I said screw this, i'm outa here. It's scary.

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    Yeah I have mixed messages: 1st off, management posts signs saying "not only will we fire you, but we'll prosecute you". Also, the girls have other girls "keep watch" for the manager. But then another girl says they don't care so much and I do see it a lot. Another girl said she complained about the cocaine use because the rest of us could get hauled off. So I don't know. I'll take Pam's advice and ask the manager to pop in the dressing room and maybe say the it's so conspicuous and we have cops (we do!). I don;t care what they do discreetly or elsewhere, but if I am seeing it go on right next to me then I feel threatened because my day job is with the county.

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    Please do ...... Let me catch some bitch with dope in my club, jeopardizing the reputation of my club and my girl's ........ I'll stop there at the risk of sounding too callous [devil]

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    nobody likes a rat...period...worry about your own life. i'm sure they will succumb to the dangers of drugs without your intervention...move your locker if u don't like it...
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    Alexxxis, the signs they post are there only for the club's protection in case of a raid and/or negative publicity. They can simply point to all those signs and say they try to keep that element out of their club, but the 'dirty strippers' just keep doing it anyway. I'd say if they are that open about it no one cares, certainly not management. If you're that concerned, try another club. You said another girl complained - it obviously hasn't done any good.

    "...move your locker if you don't like it..."
    That is the attitude of most people who use drugs and people who don't give a damn about what goes on in their business, and unfortunately that is very common in this industry. Holly is right - they don't like rats and if you rat on them, they might make things much more difficult for you than merely using in front of you.

    I worked in a club like this briefly, and I left when I saw that I was basically the only one NOT participating at work and everyone else thought I was a narc because of it. Their problem - I found greener pastures.

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    See we even have the mixed responses here.

    I don't have a problem with drug users per se, however I do have a problem when they make it so obvious that I could potentially get in a lot of trouble for something I don't even participate in. And the locker room is that tiny- my other option is the DJ booth, and I don't feel comfortable leaving stuff there (nor should I have to)

    I guess I just don't understand why it can't be discreetly done in bathroom stalls or cars or something. I feel like if you're that careless and audacious that it might be a management issue.

    I guess the other option would be to try to talk to the individual girls, but they are usually whacked out drunk/coked up and sloppy. But then this is only like 5% of our girls- the rest are really classy individuals.

    Or maybe I can defer to someone else who will complain


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    ladies my story for the weekend. the second best club in the town i work in.got hit by the DEA and closed down. EVERYONE in there went to jail uncluding the staff and dj. drugs were wide open in the dressing room. i dont know if everyone that went had something on them or they just took everyone. when i got to my club we all got our bags searched and lockers. out of 27 girls only one had some weed. so you see you cant let that go on. unless as melonie pointed out managment and owners are letting it go on .in that case you need to find a new club. you could go to jail just by being in there.
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    I will second Holly Day statement about moving ur locker. There may be a reason it is occuring by ur locker, for example is it in a corner or location that is not highly visible? That may be one reason, also one of the users may have a locker next to urs, still a reason to move. If anything happens and a locker search is done, u r 2 close 4 comfort and close enough for someone to shove something right into ur locker so move. I have the best and worst locker in the world. I have the one closest to the door of the manager's office right near the entrance 2 the dressing room. Yes, I feel like I have no privacy sometimes b.c I am the first thing every1 sees when they come in, but I sincerely dare somebody to try to steal something or be slick with me in the open where everyone can see.
    About the ratting out: first off mention to these particular people that u don't appreciate them designating the coke spot near ur locker b/c u are worried about ur own safety. Mention this nicely if possible, and at least ask if they will remove "evidence/residue" after they do what they do if they must do it at work. If this does not help anything then mention it to management if they are against it. If management does not give a fuck then u have a decision to make.
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    Wow, wish I could help. It's not rampant at my club, but I know the mgmt. uses drugs so I doubt they'd care anyways
    It's better to be looked over, than overlooked.

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    SO HERE'S WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED:

    I said nothing and the next day management cleaned house- fired 10 dancers for drug use. Of course the new ones they hired aren't much better, but at least it's a nice gesture and a good stance for management to take. They also installed more video cameras.

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    I usually mind my own biz when it comes to drugs, often the repurcussions are that deciding factor - ya never know what they are capable of....or the crowd they hang with.

    BUT one time I shared my dressing room with another feature she came for the latter half of the week.

    After one of my shows I go back upstairs and they had went thru MY CD case and used one of MY cd's to cut up their coke on!

    Ok, THEN I flipped.

    First of all she had her own fuggin CD's to do this on - so WTF?

    Second of all I travel ALOT - meaning customs often times and they do that drug cloth wipe down, had I NOT been aware they were using my CDs I could have run into some issue there, and what are the famous last words? I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THAT GOT THERE, MR OFFICER!? Ya right, famous last words.

    So I went off on her, her boyfriend and these two guys that hung around with them, drug users such as this have no respect for anyone but the "high".

    Needless to say they avoided me like the plague for the remainder of the week which was just ducky as far as I was concerned.
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    i don't think you should be a rat. it will get out that you said something, then you will have to deal with a lot of negativity, rite? plus, they aren't hurting you. if you don't like it, is it that big of a deal to jus turn ur head the other way. you aren't going to be in trouble if shit goes down, they are.

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    I don;t think you should rat themout but maybe tell them you would be more comfortable if they were more discreet, I used to dance in Anchorage under the name Mary Jane and I used to smoke weed out by the creek behind the club regularly through the night, also onenight my manager came outside with me while I finished a blunt because she was afraid the girl Iw as smoking it with was a pimp trying to take me away(which was true) and I smoked in the downstairs of the club whenever it was closed. I like to use the weed to help me dance and I will continue using pot when I go back to dancing after I have my baby(if my husband doesn't decide he changed his mind about it) I also think if I didn't have a baby on the way I woudl consider doing coke when I return to dancing to. Right now I am happy to say I am completely drug free and happy, but I think I do need at least weed to uninhibit me at work.

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    I was sitting at a table with a group of people when the girl next to me told me to "cover" her while she did a bump. I'd had a few casual conversations with her before but she hardly knew me and if she thought I was cool than I was sure everyone else there knew her business too and that really pissed me off. I leaned over so the guys wouldn't know what was going on and told her if she ever even looked at me, in passing, like she knew me than it was her ass. She got up and walked away and that was the end of it. I'm no saint and I don't give a shit what anyone does in or outside the club as long as it doesn't effect me including guilt by association.
    Next time those girls are doing shit by your locker look them right in the eye and tell them to go to the bathroom like normal junkies because if they get busted with you around and a manager even looks at you funny than it's their ass. You can put that in your own words if you like, but I'm sure they'll get the message.
    I personally wouldn't tell a manager , its just not my style.

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