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    this is anthro101 coming in as 102 as i forgot my password.

    so i was in vegas and decided to drop by cheetah's (? I was a little heady with some winnings and drinks).

    I have never in my life had a bad experience at a club until this trip. In fact, one of the reasons I like the clubs so much is that at worst I have a a good time and at best I have had an overwhelmingly relaxing or energizing time.

    So I am in the club for a short while when a dancer somes up, we shat a minute and then she asks for a dance. I'm game.

    Well, there are a lot of table dances going on so i inquire as to the cost - 20 dollars - and tuck my hands. Well. she grabs my arm and said we should go to the back. I tell her I can not afford the VIP room and all but she insists all is OK just a little more private. So I go, a little apprehensive but you know...

    we go into a small room and whalla she is all over me offering everything and grabbing and poking and I'm, like yoooo nellie.

    Then she starts requesting 200 bucks and offering all kinds of services and I tell I don't have 200.00 nor am I looking for any extras or anything. She continues while sticking her hands in my pockets and I am racing around trying to guard my cash. She asks how much I have but I am not giving. Then she tells me she will tell the bouncer and manager that I refused to pay for a dance if I don't give her the money.

    Now here is a tight spot. I am in no mood to get bounced, no mood to argue, no mood to do anything but get out of there. So I just persist with the 20 dollar dance agreement until she backs down and starts a dance. But I am really not in the mood for this at this point and hand her a 20 and leave.

    Its all over as far as I am concerned. I sit down to finish my beer and smoke a few before leaving. Several other girls come up and I suppose I had a really sullen look on my face when one girl sits and asks why so glum (nice south carolina accent). She being from the south I felyt I had a kindred spirit of sorts and told her what happened. She listened, made a few jokes and wondered off to talk to one of the managers (without my knowledge as would never have been so brazen as to go and complain). She comes up shortly with a 20 and drink compliments of the house.

    So I am a little dumbfounded and not a little pleased. She explained that these things happened and I shouldn't take it to heart etc.

    Long story short... she ended up with nearly all my winnings and I had one of the single most enjoyable nights I have ever had in a club.

    This has happened several times. I have read a few comments on these boards and on that aspdcs board (forgot acronym - mentioned on this board in several threads) about dancers 'greed' etc. My personal experiences are just the opposite.

    Just thought I would throw this out. And this is not even the best one.

    anthro101

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    Glad your night worked out after all! I'm sure most guys would have ran out immediately after having some girl like that first one try to rob them. Nice reminder that not only are we not all like that freak, but some of us are actually very nice. I would also add that guys who onsistently experience the 'bad' dancers trying to rip them off might also be the same guys always trying to 'get as much as possible' from the dancers - that whole what goes around comes around thing...

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    I work at Cheetahs, did you go at night? Alot of times I hear these things happening to guys when it's busy and crazy in there. I like working mid afternoon, I've never had a problem in there and have never seen anything get out of hand like that in the daytime. It's a much more laid back atmosphere mid day, I prefer that over the more greedy personalities that seem to come out once the sun goes down.

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    Then she starts requesting 200 bucks and offering all kinds of services -I have to be honest with you-many guys would have liked that-and depending on what she offered, 200$ seems fair
    guess who's back? back again

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    and I don't think it's wrong to tell on her for that. After enough complaints from different sources, it may cause her to lose her job. Management doesn't want dancers hustling customers like that because it keeps them from coming back.


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    Anthro, don't be afraid to complain. Businesses should be aware of any aggressive sales tactics used by their employees.

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    I don't think the $200 was really the issue, but the dancer trying to literally take his money. He said she was feeling all around for his money, asking how much he had, and threatening to sic the bouncers on him if he didn't give her money. Not hardly fair if you ask me.

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    Anthro: You absolutely did the right thing by talking to that other dancer. I've encountered two or three real rip-off artists like that in eight years or so of visiting clubs, and the only way to deal with them is to fight back.

    If it ever happens again - and I guarantee you that at some point, it will happen again - ask for the manager. You may lose the argument and the management might come down on her side, but if so, ultimately that's their loss. Not only can you take your business elsewhere, but you can use this here handy internet-thingy to tell other customers what happened. And I mean name names.

    Remember ladies: no means no! We may go to strip clubs, but that doesn't mean we're easy!

    Anabolic: Yeah, some guys might have gone for the $200 extras offer, depending on what the extras were. The dancer just completely blew it, as she probably could have gotten a lot more money from Anthro if she'd just been less aggressive and more respectful. Maybe not $200, but something, and then moved on to someone perhaps more willing to take her up on the offer.

    Just goes to show that one customer's ATF is another's nightmare...
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    I think most guys would have taken up the offer for all the extras (if you need proof, see how much extras are discussed on the Blue Site). Her rip off tactic probably has worked for her numerous times, because when confronted with a bj far too many guys will lose their intelligence and think with their johnson. It probably shocked her that Anthro didn't want any of that.

    It takes two to tango in that regard, as it were. She wouldn't keep up those mercenary tactics if it didn't work a majority of the time. I have cut short unsolicited attempts at giving me "extras" on a number of occasions (I do not want, will not ask for, and will not accept anything illegal - its equally an integrity and a health issue for me), and I always got a "What are you, fucking weird?" look or response. I have never gotten an "Okay, just asking" response when turning down extras. I have been called "cheap" (I guess because they assume, since I am a guy, I automatically want extras, but don't want to pay for it), "gay or homo" (because, of course, what normal guy would refuse a bj), or a prude (yeah... a prude goes to a SC). All of this leads me to believe that few people turn down those offers.

    Customers who accept extras are just as to blame as dancers who offer them. Anthro, I applaud you for sticking to your guns, bro.

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    I've said time and time again, VIP rooms are there for the club owners to make a profit off your vulnerability, not for the customer's enjoyment. If they weren't such a cash cow, they wouldn't exist. If you're a clearly standard service person, the only reason to go "back there" is with a dancer you've had a longstanding business relationship with whose honesty you know you can trust. Otherwise, you're better off staying in the main bar. Its not just handjobs and the like that go on back there fellas, so buyer beware!!

    If some gal had tried to extort me like that and threatened to call the bouncer for not ponying up, I would have told her to save the bouncer the trouble of coming over and walk straight out the door, and I'd make it explicit that my next stop was going to be the police department should one of them lay so much a finger on me to cough up money for services NOT wanted, much less NOT rendered.

    Nonetheless, I'm glad that management had the good sense to give you your money back, for letting a ROB like that work in their club is a direct reflection upon them. I'm glad they had the good sense to realize that your continued business was more important than that $20.

    And while I've never met that young lady who saved your evening, I thank her. The industry could use more "good apples" like her. That gesture of kindness she showed you not only salvaged your trip, it ended up helping her bottom line as well.
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    Anthro, if you're ever in San Francisco, stay away from MSC.

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    Also beware of clubs in Europe where dancers will try to search your pockets and try to get your wallet and credit cards. If you use your credit card to buy champagne at extremely high prices, they may make fraudulent charges.

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    That is true, Nostradamus, my boyfriend was in one of the clubs in which I used to work and they made fraudulent charges on his credit card.

    He got it back, but that's not the point.

    Everyone needs to be ultra careful about what is charged on your card and always keep receipts - but then this should be our standard practice anyway, not just in strip clubs.
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    If some gal had tried to extort me like that and threatened to call the bouncer for not ponying up, I would have told her to save the bouncer the trouble of coming over and walk straight out the door, and I'd make it explicit that my next stop was going to be the police department should one of them lay so much a finger on me to cough up money for services NOT wanted, much less NOT rendered.

    Allthough I agree with you in princeple I'd like to note that customers have been known to get the services and turn around and then refuse to pay- I think having that happen a number of times can unfortunatly turn a once honest dancer into a ROB. Alot of clubs won't do anything to help a dancer who gets ripped off

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