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    THE NO TOUCHING RULE IS NOEW IN EFFECT. DANCERS WILL NO LONGER BE ALOUD TO TOUCH THE CUSTOMERS OR SIT ON THEY'RE LAP. STRIPPERS ARE CONSIDERED A HEALTH HAZARD ACCORDING TO THE COUNCIL. ALL NUDE CLUBS ARE FORCED TO CLOSE THEY'RE DOORS, PT'S, THE PALACE, BABES, WILD ZEBRA WILL ALSO BE FORCED TO CLOSE THEY'RE DOORS. GOOD LUCK LADIES WHOM ARE AFFECTED.

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    Default Re: ATTENTION ALL SA DANCERS IMPORTANT INFO

    Ariel, there are three threads in the Club Chat section mentioning the new ordinances and club shut downs in SA...although I didn't hear about PT's closing as well.
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    Default Re: ATTENTION ALL SA DANCERS IMPORTANT INFO

    PT's isn't closing. The decision has been made to go topless/no contact until the appeals hit the courts. Honestly it won't take that long. This is the same situation that took place in Tampa several years ago. It didn't work in Tampa and it won't work in SA Either.
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    It is my understanding that a higher court ruled Tampa's 6 foot ordinance was constitutional. Tampa police are still raiding clubs infrequently.

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    Ariel:

    QUIT YELLING! I think we have to many chiefs and not enough indians, because everyone is saying different things. At Sugar's, my boss said there is no touching allowed. When Iwent to Penthouse, there wasno such warning from the bosses. I assume your "forecast" of closings is based on worry. Babes and Zebra announced closings a few weeks ago, and the Palace is moving to a much bigger building next to the Far West. News on TV says that 4 clubs have challenged the law in Court this week-- so, pins and needles.

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    there is absablutly no toucing at all stars for the next seven days. sorry about the yelling i'm just pissed of this bible belt bullshilt , close minded people who make my job seem like i'm doing something wrong when strip clubs bring in more money into the city than almost any bar in town. just so frustrated.

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    we are not criminals, i just wish society would stop acting like i am.

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    Ariel, you need to understand that the city council just made you a criminal if you touch a customer, even accidentally! I STRONGLY advise that you don't wait for the appeals process - #1 a judge may not grant a "stay of enforcement" order meaning every club inside the city limits will have to abide by the new ordinance during the appeals process, #2 customers will start dropping like flies due to lack of contact and potential risk of publicity if the club is busted while they're in it, and #3 the appeal is very likely to fail since there have already been so many publicized ordinance appeals in other cities that any city attorney with 1/2 a brain can now write an ordinance which will not fall victim to the "mistakes" made in writing earlier ordinances.

    The Palace appears to be the only area club which has figured out how to get around this ordinance with a profit - move outside the city limits so the new ordinance doesn't apply. If it were me, I would have already made contact with the Palace in regard to working for them. Once the news gets around that this ordinance is serious business and that the appeal is very likely to fail, every dancer in SA is going to be stampeding to the Palace. If you get there first you'll face much less competition than if you wait a month, watch your earnings potential fall off a cliff, and have to stand in line at the Palace with every other dancer from every other club inside the SA city limits who finds herself in the same boat.

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    Mel:

    As I sit here and look at my city map, it is apparent to me that even the new Palace is within the city limits, only because it is on the right side of I-35 as you head towards downtown. The Windcrest City Limits--the only adjacent city lilmit in the area-- stops at the east side of I-35, which is to the left of the freeway as you head downtown.

    Does anyone here work at the Palace? Do you know if your new location is inside the City limits or not?

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    Mel:

    As I sit here and look at my city map, it is apparent to me that even the new Palace is within the city limits, only because it is on the right side of I-35 as you head towards downtown. The Windcrest City Limits--the only adjacent city lilmit in the area-- stops at the east side of I-35, which is to the left of the freeway as you head downtown.

    Does anyone here work at the Palace? Do you know if your new location is inside the City limits or not?
    I have a 2002 Rand McNally atlas. It shows something the Mapquest map doesn't show. There is a considerable chunk of land on the west side of I-35 from around Fort Sam Houston up through the Windcrest area that is NOT inside city limits. I mapped the Penthouse on another thread and it fell right in that area. Perhaps thats why that club wasn't one of the ones challenging the ordinance. Very interesting. Then again, my map might be too old already.

    Not sure about the Palace. Is the location just off the 410 loop the old one?
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    i work at the palace already and they are within the city limits, i don't really know what melonie is talking about.... i know they were going to move to a bigger place but the greeks own the place and who knows what they are going to do...

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    thanks for the tips tho i think i will be obligated to work elsewear until the rules relax a bit. how i hate this i am so stressed about it

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    Ariel, odds are that the rules will NOT be relaxed, ever! if Catfish is correct that the Penthouse is the only club which is actually outside the city limits, then that is the only club that will be a moneymaker a month from now once word percolates that the action in downtown clubs has been reduced to zero contact topless only.

    Obviously the existing Palace location is within city limits, which is bound by the new ordinance and which is why they must abide by the zero contact requirement of that ordinance. But you have to assume that if the Palace is planning on relocating, that the owners will know that the new location must be outside the city limits in order for them to make any money in the future. However, as you say, you really have no way of knowing this for sure, and you also don't have any way of knowing how long it will be before the new location is ready to open its doors. You could be in for a long "dry spell" earnings wise waiting for the new location to open.

    It would be worth the effort to make a 5 minute phone call to the SA zoning officer to find out for sure whether or not the Penthouse is within city limits or not. If it isn't, I'd be knocking on their door ASAP.

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    Default Re: ATTENTION ALL SA DANCERS IMPORTANT INFO

    Hi all, I have lurked on this site for a very long time now but felt it time to sign up and express my thoughts on the new SA rules and to hopefully add a new prospective from a customer point of view.

    First ladies do not panic, clubs will adapt, dancers will adapt and customers will adapt. I had my first night at All Stars last night with my ATF and the new rules, you know who you are girl, and to me it was the most sensual and erotic experience in a long time, you do not need touch to turn a guy on. Personally give me a beautiful girl staring at me with want in her eyes dancing slow and sensual to a grind dance that leaves me raw and sore any day. Your dance style just needs to change from aggression to suggestion.

    Yes the clubs might be slow now but I feel this has a lot to do with strip clubs being so much in the spotlight the past few weeks. As the publicity wears off the customers will come back, just remember your regulars should support you during this time and are a great resources for trying out new air dance moves.

    I feel the rules will be relaxed or dropped in the near future, a city like San Antonio that relies so heavily on the convention business will not want to be known as the strictest in the nation for strip clubs, sorry counsel members but that is just the way it is.

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