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    I have noticed that many people on this board wonder why someone would go to a strip club looking for "extras" when they could hire an escort. I have wondered about this myself. It sounds like extras are not the norm in most clubs. So why go through the hassle of looking for it in a sc?

    Here's one answer taken from another board:

    Q: "But if the extras are so unpredictable, why not just go to ***** or whatever?


    A: 3. Because some guys -- like me -- actually like the uncertainty, and enjoy the sport of fishing for what we can get (even if that sometimes leaves you paying a relative lot for not very much)."

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    Because some dancers will perform an extra for $20 or less, while an escort charges much more $$$ for a hour.

    Sad, but true. People here know how i feel about that shit in the clubs. Right on go visit an escort. More "bang" for the bucks. And then some. Lol.

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    Plus I think guys want to see the girl beforehand. When you hire an escort, you don't know what you're getting into. After a guy has met a dancer and become enamoured with her, he wants more, naturally.

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    Default Re: why go to a sc looking for extras

    Well, I believe extras are much more affordable than an escort, IMHO.



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    Exactly so now strippers that do *extras* are considered the bargain basement hookers - wow as if being known for that it the first place isnt bad enough but to be considered the cheapest in that line of work?

    Whats worse: a hooker or a LOWEST PRICE hooker?

    I mean if its cheaper to get a pseudo-stripper to whack you off than a visit to the massage parlor doesnt say too much for the whacker OR whackee.

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    LOL! whackee I agree. Strippers who do extras in the club for cheap are basically the Wal-Mart of hookers.

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    LOL! whackee I agree. Strippers who do extras in the club for cheap are basically the Wal-Mart of hookers.
    Sadly, far too many men are so devoid of character, couth or morals that anywhere and anywhen they can get it is good enough. Quantity over quality. Their attitude that women are ultimately only receptacles for their genitalia is what both prevents them from getting laid in their real life (which usually involves forming some sort of relationship) and what removes any mental societal barriers to getting some form of sex with a complete stranger.

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    There have been some studies done on this very topic and the concensus seems to be that Men enjoy the (in thier mind) seduction of a woman which does NOT Happen with an escort. It makes them feel attractive to have a dancer (who they assume does not do this ALL the time) ...Do it for them.

    The real issue is: WHY do dancers DO Extras rather than just becoming escorts (even as an outside "job"). The answer has been that women (even dancers) are human too and give in to the stimulation (both sexual and monetarial) in addition to the fact that an ESCORT is assumed to be a whore where a dancer can call herself an entertainer or performer (much like waitresses in Hollywood call them selves actresses).

    Times are definitely changing both in the clubs attitude toward "extras" and the younger dancers definition on intimate Sex. Remamber that many young girls believe that Congress was right in saying that Oral stimulation is not Sex and also they believe that COVERED (condom) Intercourse is not Intimate sex. To many younger dancers (and girls in general) If its ORAL or Covered .... Its not REALLY sex but more like mastrubation with a dildo (albeit a lively one) that happens to be attached to someones body. Many younger girls have a very generic view of covered or oral sex as totally non-intimate Attitudes and outlooks on Sex are changing ladies and you have the Government (and Movie and Record producers) to thank for this new breed of jaded boys and girls.

    Just look at the PRIDE most "Rappers" take in being Thugs and Pimps and then look at the admiration many girls have for these "Stars". Check out the wardrobe for Brittney Spears or even Anna Kornukova as well as the rumors that abound about thier exploits. Its easy to understand why this metamorphisis is happening. The terms "bitch" and "ho" are compliments to many of these girls. Change is inevitable and its usually never percieved as GOOD by the majority. Thats what makes it rebellion as all youth are prone to do. Its the nature of the beast.
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    That is an interesting point DJ Wulf. It is true that most of the younger girls have a very different outlook on the whole issue of sex than we older ladies. I see it all the time. 9-year-old kids know more about sex than I knew at 16. 'Reality' shows which emphasize sexual escapades of the cast members, sexually charged videos, etc reinforce the notions of 'free' sex. It's the same thing that's been happening since the beginning of time. The younger, upcoming generations always rebel against the 'old folks', and the 'old folks' always moan about how the kids are so wild.

    Merely: Yet another riveting display of intelligence. Yes, we have many other talents, like actually DANCING, making a show, removing our clothes in a sexy and seductive way rather than just dropping them to the floor, seduction, conversation, entertainment - to name just a few. It takes ZERO talent to give someone a blowjob in a dark corner. It takes ALOT of talent and, mind you, hard work to entertain people. And yes, there definitely IS still a market for what we entertainers do - which is why we're still doing it, and why we're still making money at it. Maybe you should get with the program and open your own obviously very narrow mind. Oh and kindly remove that gigantic chip from your shoulders - it seems to be a huge burden for you. Then maybe you'd enjoy strippers more for what we are, rather than always trying to 'extract' as much as you can from us. Peace.

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    In my infinite wisdom, I do proclaim two possible scenarios: Dancers who give the "extras" for extra dough, thereby causing a ripple effect so customers start expecting it. Also, everyone has had customers that seem heavily impacted by your interactions with them. You push your wiles to get the dance, and then pull away, and they have a little trouble letting go. I don't want to equate this commom customer emotion to "real" love, more like intense infatuation induced, in part, by the dancer. Desperation starts to occur after the customer starts questioning whether your actions toward him are "real". He pushes you like a woman he's courting, not a woman paid to entertain him. He starts to think, "She really wants me", rather than "she's good at this". It can be a little heartbreaking to burst his bubble when he asks, "So what are you doing AFTER THIS?". as if you are in any old bar. Worse yet, he says it as if EVERYONE DOES IT. Not all dancers give freebies, he just wants to imagine you will. Just as he probably imagines you as a 5'7" curvaceous platinum blonde, when you know damn well that what you really are is a 5'3" slightly chubby dirty blonde with WAY more spunk and intelligence than that Pamela Anderson could ever have!
    If you don't like these questions, ladies, please understand it comes with the territory. If you are good at your job, many men will want you all to themselves. Stick to your guns if you've got 'em and don't worry about what others may do. It is up to the dancer to decide her level of involvement with customers, and she should always stay within club guidelines while she's there.
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    ... and intelligence than that Pamela Anderson could ever have!
    Kind of a tangent, but have you read Pamela Anderson's articles in Jane Magazine? She, in my opinion, is quite smart.

    Anyway, after reading DJ_Wulf's post, it makes a lot more sense! If you're a dancer that performs extras, you're still a "dancer", but if you're a whore, you're just a whore. Even though dancers are treated like second-class citizens, we still get more respect than whores.

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    And a hooker has no feelings? She does, she is human. It's only all about the money for the ladies.

    And for the guys it's only about the cheapest form of 'sex' he can get. Escort or not. Men don't like playing around the bush....They just want it when they see it's there for the taking. Club or outside.
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    Emily,
    i would have agreed with you about Pamela a few magazine articles ago. but when she says all she ever had done is her boobs. That is lying. She had much more done, and said so on Oprah a few years back. I have lost respect for her now, saying she only had her breasts done in a magazine, many know better. I have no clue what the hell she was thinking.
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    Killer input on this thread, Stuff I love to hear.

    I have, for the last 15 year's, had the unique opportunity to work in 2 completely different job field's. I have worked in most of the club's in my area, until 2 year's ago when I bought the one I currently own. I also owned an Automotive radiator and A/C shop. During the coarse of the day I would bring up club's to customer's that seemed the type to indulge. Very interesting conversation would ensue, People would tell all sort's of stories either personal or rumored ( from there friend's ). The thing is most bragging stories came in the form of " high mileage " which seem's to be a sport of sort's for some of the upper echelon customer base. Once a club is rumored to be a " high mileage " club, customer's looking for mileage start hitting girl's up for it and girl's that do give high mileage start flocking there to work, cuz they know it possible to get away with it there.

    Club's receive a direct impact from the customer's experience when they visit the club. If a customer has a great time and see's beautiful women he tell's his friend's it a good club. If he has one bad experience, maybe an argument with a girl or staff or see's one or two girl's he deem's ugly he will stop people he don't even know to tell them what a crappy club it is.

    My club had a reputation for having really skanky girl's working in it, a reputation it lived up to many year's ago. Yet I have talked to guy's between the age's of 18 and say 22 that haven't been to my club on the pretence's that all the girl's there are skank's. Hell I've got a great lineup with a good variety of girl's none of which are skank's yet the rumor is still alive and well and obviously there to be my nemesis.

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    Merely: Yet another riveting display of intelligence...
    And apparently yet another riveting display of deleting his posts once someone debates him to make the debater look silly. Why oh why?
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    Well as a strictly NON-extras customer (although I don't personally mind the minor extras), I can't answer for myself. But aside from the the fact that it is cheaper, I suspect a lot of guys will look for extras at a strip club because of the challenge presented.

    Strippers aren't actually prostitutes, so getting extras from them is a bigger "score" than hiring a girl whose specific job function is to do the deed. But strippers are tangentially related to prostitutes in the means that they do something of a sexual nature for money, so they think that the probability of scoring is well within the range of possibility, and with the right girl they probably will.

    Granted a devoutly religious virgin Catholic schoolgirl (remember Cruel Intentions?) would be a far bigger score to such guys, but it would be a far more difficult challenge.
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    I think its because guys know they can get away with asking for extras and not have to worry if its a cop in a club, plus they might get "lucky"

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    Not really bashing good old Pam here, more like capitalizing on the fact that men often believe and see what they want to when we do our job. Purely a self-motivation and realism thing, no offense intended to Pam-fans!
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    IMHO, I think the reason that a customer will try to get extras in a club is because they don't respect or understand what we are there for. They see a room full of girls who will take their tops or everything(in a nude club) off for money. They assume that we are there because we want to be hit on or picked up or used and tossed asside. Because the majority of people in our society has the impression that all strippers have low self-esteem, that we have no morals or principals, and that we are trashy and cheap, these guys have been brought up to believe this way. They have been taught by the comments and side remarks about strippers that most people make, that it's okay to use us. That it's okay to disrespect us because we deserve it. That because we choose to dance for a living we deserve every nasty scenerio that comes our way.
    In fact, in some cases it almost seems like these guys think it's their duty to disrespect us. To make sure we know where we stand. To make us realize what trash we are, and how unworthy we are of anything good in life because we choose to strip.


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    P.S. - A great big thank you to those guys who post here who realize what absolute bullshit those opinions are. I do know that not all customers see us that way, but in some of the clubs I've worked in it does seem to be the norm.

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    DJ_WuLf really understands the changing behaviors.... The SportsWriter character has been on TUSCL for several years, and the most common e-mail question he gets is "Why does she DO that?" The writers are professional guys 25+ who like a dancer and wishes she would do LESS so they could love her.... With my rep for being non-judgmental, I often have dancers asking me if A, B and C are "okay." My only test is whether a dancer's behaviors are SAFE in a public health sense. Nothing is completely safe, but I look for some understanding of risk management.... As behaviors change, the individual "what I like" patterns become more and more variable, so you really have to talk about that with each dancer.... Finally, I'm impressed that young dancers who do "wild stuff" can also be in school and on track with healthy bodies and personalities.

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    IMHO, I think the reason that a customer will try to get extras in a club is because they don't respect or understand what we are there for. They see a room full of girls who will take their tops or everything(in a nude club) off for money. They assume that we are there because we want to be hit on or picked up or used and tossed asside. Because the majority of people in our society has the impression that all strippers have low self-esteem, that we have no morals or principals, and that we are trashy and cheap, these guys have been brought up to believe this way. They have been taught by the comments and side remarks about strippers that most people make, that it's okay to use us. That it's okay to disrespect us because we deserve it. That because we choose to dance for a living we deserve every nasty scenerio that comes our way.
    In fact, in some cases it almost seems like these guys think it's their duty to disrespect us. To make sure we know where we stand. To make us realize what trash we are, and how unworthy we are of anything good in life because we choose to strip.
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    The game? The type of customer I'm referring to does not see this sort of behavior as a "game." Yes, there are some guys that make a game of seeing how many Extras they can get a dancer to do. But the guys I'm speaking of are taking it much farther. It's way past the game stage with them. They are trying to "teach" dancers a "lesson." It's like, they feel that since we choose to strip that we're "dirty little sluts" and that this is the way sluts are supposed to be treated. It's like they want to punish us for our choice of jobs.
    Let me relate a story about what happened when one particular guy came in a while back. I had just got off stage and was going around the room to collect my tips. When I got to this guy's table, I pulled out the side of my thong and he proceded to tip. I said thanks and was about to walk away but he called me back and said he had one more for me. When I went back he grabbed me and pulled me down on his lap and stuck his hand down the front of my thong. He got a finger in before I elbowed him in the face. (bloodied his damn nose ) I asked him what the hell he thought he was doing and he replied, ".....you're a fuckin' stripper."

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    Good for you Kittie he deserved that and more.I personally have never asked for extras but it has been offered to me and most of the time at the million dollar saloon in brampton(you canadian ladies know about this club hehe)anyways I dont go to clubs for extras I go for fun and to enjoy the company of a few gorgeous ladies

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    The guys looking for extras tell me they will not go the escort route because it is too much money and trouble. They do not like the exposure of going to a hotel, or a "massage parlor" due to the openess of it. Yet other guys want ME to go to hotels with them, but I think that is just back to THEIR hotels when they are travellin in from oput of town. Another reason hasbeen posted before, but because they can preview us by our stage work, and wheter they find us to their liking.

    I am glad some do, because it really helps out on otherwise weak days. Everyone is right, though, that if anyone does give the extras, then mora and more will give them. Competition you know.

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    There are many many girls who do extras who are nothing more than street hookers who decided to come in off the streets. Seriously. They realize they can do their business in a much safer environment, with many more potential clients available and ready, and with lower risk of being busted (if they're discreet in the club, they're much less obvious than walking around in known prostitute corners). So just because they decided to use strip clubs to do their business in, put on a garter along with their regular work attire and (maybe) go on stage and do 'lapdances', that doesn't make them dancers. They are hookers with new work addresses.

    And the girls who started as dancers and graduated to extras, even if only for 'certain' guys, they are hookers too. No two ways about it. Once you cross the line, you are a hooker, plain and simple.

    Of course I still don't have a problem with hookers, I just have a problem with them screwing up dancers' business by bringing it into the club. It's like those guys who go into public parking areas of highly touristic sections of town, and pretend to be parking attendants to get tourists to pay them for the parking. What they're doing is not only illegal, but unethical. The tourists don't realize they are being scammed by someone who not only isn't a parking attendant, but that place isn't even supposed to have parking attendants. I realize this analogy isn't totally in line, but I think the point is clear. And to say nothing of the fact that these illegal operators are taking money away from legitimate businesses and distorting the customer demand.

    Guys go to SCs looking for extras because they're guys. They like the 'hunt', and the 'satisfaction' of making a perceived conquest with someone who 'doesn't really do that for a living'. But they're just fooling themselves, because common sense says that if she does it for you, she does it for others too. That's ok though. They can try all they want, as long as they're buying dances in the process!

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