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    Juliet - You were sooooo right on with everything you said. I can not even believe my experience with this club!!! It was exactly the same as your experience. The girls are over all not very attractive. They have many unattractive and heavy dancers. With all the good I heard about this place, I was surprised. I was told to come at 9 30 for an "orientation class" My audition was in a small (and I mean SMALL) little broom closet. Was he kidding me? Do girls actaully get naked for him in there like that? Talk about power trip!!!!! Of course I refused to take off my clothes for him.....he then showed me the picture of his wife. She is supposedly a porn star. Im not sure why a woman like that would be married to a perverted fat thing like him. This is such a dirty club!!!! Usually I choose not to audition at a place until I know for a fact that I want to work there. You are not allowed to even come inside if you are not escorted by a gentleman. He showed me around for 2 seconds....(i couldnt see anything of the club) and then took me back into the broom closet and asked again to see me naked. And yes there is a HUGE difference between showing him my body without anyone else around...and dancing on stage. When i said "no" again, he got mad and responded that I wouldnt be cut out to be a dancer because If i think hes shady then I wouldnt be cut out for a weekend night. I have NEVER had an experience quite like this one before. That should just not be allowed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He told me girls make 500,000 a year there. i agree with Juliet. This club is extremely sleazy and unprofessional. I dont care what the rumors say about good money here. I can hold my head up high and make great money anywhere else. Has anyone else had an experience like this before ? And esp. for those who work at Tootsies.....please comment.
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    I've missed something. Which club and where?

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    Tootsies I guess from the final parting comments but ya - where did this come from???
    I thinbk she wqs trying to reply to someone else on a thread (juliet?) and went about it the wrong way and started a whole new topic....instead of just clicking on reply in whatever thread she started in!

    Asia - what are ya talking about??
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    I believe a club in south Florida,
    could be wrong, i know it's not Pure Platinum, thats not how they treat their girls.

    As far as tootsies, we have one up here, more north Florida, the friggin place is packed. Not sure how good the girls do, but they hire your average girl off the street kinda look, as well as 2 very beautiful women i have seen.

    And no, what he said to you was not illegal, alot of owners want to see what a womans body looks like before he hires her. I have never done it naked in a small room, but on stage, yes.
    He just has very bad manners, and it's his club. Walk away, and forget the seazy place.
    Better luck next time.
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    I have never had to go onstage for an audition, and every manager I have talked to has checked me out in the manner you described. My experiences were not sleazy at all, they just wanted to make sure there was nothing wrong with me that wasn't visible with clothes on. For me, these kind of "auditions" happened at very upscale clubs. The managers were very respectful.
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    I've only had one manager insist on seeing me naked in the back room. I told him no--he would see me when I went on stage. He didn't have me audition. Later I found out from a friend who had worked there that he would always try to sleep with the dancers. The ones that wouldn't didn't get good shifts.

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    Although I think the owner/manager what ever he was, was an old school proprieter. When thing's where sleazier behind the scene's. It's not illegal to view applicant's in such a manor, it does lack the quality you would expect to come from a place you would be proud to work at. I personally make a girl go on stage and try-out. I prefer new dancer's so all I want from them is to see that they have what it take's to get nude in front of a crowd, if they got that, me and my girl's take it from there. Veteran dancer's don't get put through the mill. I talk with them and decide whether I want to mess with them or not, then I put them in the line up.

    I did want to add that the only illegal action mentioned in the author's post was. It is illegal to not allow women into a club unescorted!!!!!! They call that discrimination by gender. Nowhere in the U.S is that legal. A club here was shut down for a week because of it. I understand the reason some club's do it ( keep out hooker's looking for john's and housewives looking for husband's ) , but it is very illegal.

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    Hmmm thanks crazybob for the info. I have auditioned for one club that required me to take off my clothes off apart from others for the sheer embarassment of others looking at me, and me not passing" the standards". Never thought that would be ilegal. No money ever exchanged, no touching, two consenting adults. But the best was Lauderdale....Which makes more sense, an audition on stage! Well hell, looking at your body is just half the picture, you'd think they would want to see what you can do for the club! Dingbats!
    Just my op. Pamelsa

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    Whoa another good one,
    Thanks Bob, i'll try this one , and raise a stink. We have 3 clubs i know of in my area that require a female to be escorted by a male party to go watch dancers!!!!! Yea, and it's bull shit!
    Thanks, why can't all club owners be like you. YOU ROCK

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    Pamela, I hope you didn't get me wrong there. I look at it like this. Bigger club's tend to look for a stereotypical girl in say the range of 7.5 - 10 on a scale of 10. Unfortunately that scale is totally based on the narrow mind of one or a few individual's. I look at it like this, if they're not morbidly obese or have a crappy attitude or some unnatural deformity, they have a shot on my stage. I like a certain type of girl and that's a personal oppinion. I've had customer's leave disappointed that there where no girl's with meat on there bone's or small or large breast's. So who am I to judge what will sell for a girl. I stay within reason, don't get me wrong they can't look skanky or sloppy but I can generally tell pretty much from a dressed interview how they will stack up. I look more at the face, eye's, teeth and overall appearance. Yeah there are girl's with droopy breast's and tattoo's and over thing's that I don't like but the over all test is the acceptance of the crowd, they are the one's I have to please with a show.

    Oh and for the record and IMO, anyone who turned you down for work is a blantant fool. You have beautiful hair ( big seller ) and great eye's and good lip's, although I've yet to see your toothy smile, the rest goes without saying. Most importantly your attitude is great. Straying from the point that I think too many club's are far too tuff on there standard's and it probably hurt's them in the end.

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    500k as a stripper, yeah right ! as soon as he said that you should have knew he was full of b.s.

    maybe in a crappy club like the one you are talking about you could make 500k if you put in 20 years !!!!!!!!!!

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    500k as a stripper, yeah right ! as soon as he said that you should have knew he was full of b.s.

    maybe in a crappy club like the one you are talking about you could make 500k if you put in 20 years !!!!!!!!!!

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    For my "audition," the housemom took me into a bathroom and had me pull up my shirt and pull down my jeans. I wasn't offended at all. Although if it were a male manager in the bathroom instead of the housemom, I might have had some reservations.

    I look at it like this, if they're not morbidly obese or have a crappy attitude or some unnatural deformity, they have a shot on my stage. I like a certain type of girl and that's a personal oppinion. I've had customer's leave disappointed that there where no girl's with meat on there bone's or small or large breast's. So who am I to judge what will sell for a girl.
    I recently joined TUSCL to find out what the men thought of my club, and other clubs in my area. One in five men have some sort of comment about how the "quality of the dancers" is on the decline. All across the United States. To them, strip clubs are stocked with too many girls with curves and not enough Barbie's. I almost want to post "Barbie isn't a stripper. She is in a box at Wal-Mart. " It kinda surprised me because the best looking girls are hardly ever the ones that make the most money. If the men actually sit and talk with the 10's (at my club), their attitude is a real turn-off. They don't perform well on stage, don't ever make eye contact with the customers, and consequently make a lot less money.

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    No, no Bob, i did not get you wrong. I understand what you are saying. IT's just a shame that, ok......More clubs don't look for more of a great attitude! Heavy, skinny, flat boobs.....it all sells to someone! But do alot of club owners ever get beyond a womans looks to meet her attitude ? looks go so far, attitude has to pick up where the looks let off.
    Hugs, Pamela

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    keep in mind that club managers get in this business to get the inside hookup on pussy. Lots of clubs just have you go in the back and look at your body then hire you. these managers will flirt. once you are hired you are just another house fee to the club. Don't let it bother you too much. Some managers try to hit on you. If it becomes a problem go somewhere else.


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    I've had two auditions where the manager wanted a lapdance from me. One was just an asshole and I didn't do it. The other said he wanted to know what I would be giving his customers and what my comfort level was, and I did do it, but now I wish I hadn't.

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    Lena - Where was this? What happened after you gave him the lap dance? Sleazy men...!~
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