I have been dancing for several years, and there is something I have always wondered. If a DJ doesn't like a girl or doesn't find her physically attractive, how does he get on the mike and say nice things about her?
I have been dancing for several years, and there is something I have always wondered. If a DJ doesn't like a girl or doesn't find her physically attractive, how does he get on the mike and say nice things about her?
On center stage ....making every night HOT and steaming...Summer Rayne.
Physical attraction has little to do with it since its really about making money. Most strip club DJ's had better be fairly immune to the physical part or they won't last long in the business.
Most DJ's have a fairly standard show and (if you listen long enough) will repeat the same comments about various girls. (The lovely and talented) I know that I am constantly thinking of new (read NOT boring) things to say about dancers in general rather than about a specific girl.
The BIG difference for me is whether a dancer will work with me and respond to my comments rather than whether I personally LIKE her. When dancers on stage work with and respond to the DJ's comments (in a pleasant manner) the customers relate that she is friendly and approachable .... which makes her (and ultimately the DJ) more money.
Of course there are those times when I have played Queens "Fat Bottom Girls" or Merideth Brooks "Bitch" and even the "Barbie Song" to get a point across. I even played "Hamster Dance" a few times when girls decided to just lay on the stage and pout.
14 years working in Strip Clubs. "What a long strange trip it's been"
When it comes to Dj's they work with many dancers who come and go. They need to behave in a Professional manner.
As do we being dancers. This is a job, not high school playing. A bad DJ can ruin money making for you by playing a nasty song. I sure as hell would not dance to a hideous song that i did not want playing, i would walk off stage and probably throw a drink in his/her face and walk out! That being said, dancers should not be up there complaining. We need to get along wit the DJ's, and them us...As we pay them our money. Very true a bad DJ, can make or break a dancer. Get along, introduce yourself, and while dancing if something you did not like was said address it after your off stage.
Most dancers can tell when a DJ is not into them. And theDJ or dancer, which ever one has started the tiff should go.
Pamela
I imagine that it is much like a dancer who is dancing for a rude customer. Just like we are dependant on the customer for our income, the DJ is dependant on us for his income.
Promote yourself and earn more money! This is a business that is owned by strippers for strippers. Let's make that money!
Wow Pamela I dont think I have ever thrown a drink in a DJ's face YIKES! You gotta temper huh? I so enjoy your posts, hun!
I usually let said DJ dig his own grave, I can dance to almost anything, and if thats how he's trying to get me? Aint gonna fly. Insults on the mike I ignore and smile even harder I figure if the room likes me and I really work it, they boisterously applaud me, it just makes him look like an ass for trying to f*ck it up and not succeeding.
I dont mean offense *DJWULF* at all, please dont read that into this. But I try the hardest with DJ's before any other staff in the club, I really want an easy week and to work together, so if something does cause a rift, it very well could be something simple that one or the other party misunderstood, so if I am feeling those vibes I ask right away, I wait until we are alone though, its nobody's biz...but I ask, and try to make amends.
Sometimes though it just is a plain ol dislike thing regardless of ANY effort. This is one I still ponder but feel better about when I posed this similar question in the music section.
Thats when being professional comes into play. Both your abilities AS A PROFESSIONAL have to come into play.
I am sad when that happens though cause I really enjoy the banter of a good DJ, and the joking on and off stage, they really are what I remember about every club I visit.
Most DJ's are money motivated too as ARE WE, so keep your tip at the legitmate amount, via bar reg's and it wouldnt hurt to toss him some extra cause he was in good form that night or played some great music for your set or even took the time to see what you like. Those are kindnesses he pays you, reciprocate, and even if he doesnt LIKE you per say...he will respect your fairness and treat you with same.
Alot of girls think they can get away with undertipping cuz they're so damn cute, oh HELL no - cute aint gonna pay that DJ's rent save that bullshit for the customers. LOL!
All kidding aside this can be one of the best relationships in a club or the worst in the club. I know I really do try with this co worker first and foremost above any other relationship in the bar. It has priority.
I hope this helps, in seeing some of the other sides to it. Well from my perch anyway.![]()
LIVE LONG & PROSPER!
Leigh Landon
Never explain yourself to anyone, because the person who likes you doesn't need it and the person that dislikes you won't believe it.
i agree with pam. i HATE dj's that play those kinds of games, it is almost a power trip kinda thing in my eyes. we had a dj at my club that had been there since opening. who used all kinds of extortion and mind games ie: shitty music on the girls. he finally got fired for just that never to be allowed to return and a trespass warrent placed on him. you wouldnt believe how happy the girls became therefore making more money and TIPPING the dj more money. someone pulled that crap on me and they would see it in the tip everytime no matter how much i made, and trust me i am a very good tipper.
As quoted by Luckyone:
I asked directions from a genie in a bottle of jim beam and she lied to me.
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Oh in Lauderdale we had a new Dj come in, very young, and always no matter what a dancer requested, because we where aloud to bring our own music, he played techno. I gave him a song one night, may have Frampton, "do you feel like i do", and he puts on this fast techno, while i am starting to get on the pole for my opening act. Way too fast! I could not go with a beat i had no clue. I got off the pole and just stripped fast. Got off stage and told him we have a problem.
He told me well you think you are all that ! No shit. I said, nice attitude to have about yourself when trying to sell yourself to a crowd...Duh.
He wanted to see what i can do by throwing me a major curve ball! I shouted at him (of course aside from customers), and told him if he ever did this idiotic crap to me again, i will make sure he eats his techno music while i am dancing on stage while laughing, giving him the finger, mouthing "fuck you DJ" and so on. I meant it. He did not want to test me. I would not talk about him to others at the club, just go after him myself with my stage performance. He did not play crap for me again, and we actually struck a friendship after that. I tipped him after that incident with $1.00. I can't play that game, he heard rumours about me and wanted to have fun with my job. No way. Anyway he did not stay at the club, he had problems with the housemom i heard. He called the club a few times after he was let go to tell me he was working another close by. Go figure.
You definatly want to stay on the DJ's good side. Otherwise he can object you to crappy music and bad lighting. I've had a DJ put the bright lights on me--I mean bright ass lights, where any flaw is just out there in the spotlight. It really messed up my set because I was so worried about any possible cellulite showing! He can also call dance and drink specials during your set, which takes the attention off of you. I would never start anything with any DJ if I can help it--they do have the power to mess things up for you. Sometimes its inevitable though, like that particular DJ. He was the type who expected a hug and free reign to feel up every girls ass. Luckily he was fired !!





A good DJ should forget about whatever he thinks of a dancer and do his job. He has to say something nice about the dancer; that to get the audience's attention. It would be very lame to let him antagonize the dancer [shameful]. I mean, he's not the club owner nor manager (If he is, well, that's a different story). If he doesn't find you attractive, well think that others do [cheerup].




It has been my experience that the least successful DJs are the ones who have the "I am the straw that stirs the drink" attitude. One of my main haunts has two main DJs, one that all the dancers love and one that they all hate. The one they love basically checks with each dancer what they want to dance to, and is totally willing to play music the dancers bring in (within reason, meaning no 12 minute songs etc). He apparently isn't the most personable guy, but he makes a conscious effort to work with the dancers. He takes his role in the club with the appropriate seriousness, and I've been told he gets tipped out very well.
The other one, apparently, thinks that if it weren't for him, the dancers would be lost and clueless. He is constantly fighting about music selection, and pretty much doesn't ever play anything he doesn't already have ("I'm the DJ.. Not you"). I dont think he deliberately sabotages anyone, but he walks around with a "Youre Just A Dancer" attitude. He gets the sort of crappy tips from the dancers which he deserves, which then fosters even more ill-will in him. In my times there it never seemed to spill into out and out warfare, but the dislike the dancers had for him is very apparent.
The reason why he is still there is because he has been there for a while, and the management basically stinks. As long as they get their money from the patrons and dancers, they couldn't give a crap about any ill-will. Plus he only DJs twice a week.
I guess being a DJ does give some schmucks a false sense of power. I would hope those kinds generally get their asses kicked (figuratively or literally). I've been toying with the idea of maybe trying to be a SC DJ (I did the College Radio on-air thing for 3 years, so I'm not a total novice). If I ever do, I at least have a lot of examples of how not to be.
PJ
The DJ's have tremendous power, IMO, since they get to control what music we dance to -- and dancing is what we do for a living. My club frowns upon hip-hop and rap, but my DJ's know I can dance more sensually to something like R.Kelly's "Ignition Remix" than a random alternative track that's hard to get into (for me, anyway). I ALWAYS tip extra when they hook me up.
Once, the DJ TOTALLY screwed this chick by playing Violent Femme's "Blister in the Sun." :o She just kinda bopped around on stage for the entire song, and didn't even make one dollar. I was mortified for her!



A Dj does in every aspect have way too much power, although some ( the better one's ) don't choose to exercise it. Mine does and it's a hard thing for me to control. He get's a minimum 5% tipout from the girl's so he really has nothing to loose. He's engaged to one of the girl's so she get's the red carpet treatment. He does play favorite's. If I , and I'm still contemplating it, make his tipout voluntary he will be assured to get screwed because most of the girl's don't tipout fair if they can get away with it.
But yes in most case's the DJ is god and it's alway's in your best interest to find common ground, he has alot ( too much ) control over how much money you make. Most of that being physological control. Plus he's a strong advertiser for you during the coarse of the night.
My quest is to fix this in my club without firing him because the problem isn't as much him as the power he is granted. I refuse to let anyone have more power then me, it show's lack of control.
There is , for anyone that get's it, a great article in last month's Exotic Dancer Magazine about DJ's. A worthy read for dancer's and DJ's alike.
The thing I hate...the DJ in my club controls who goes up in what order!
One DJ is the worst!
I always end up between this really bad, mean bitch....and the best dancer in the club. It really screws me! The girl before me, stays on stage talking or whatever like halfway though my first song, and then halfway though my second song, the DJ announces Kendall and everyone just looks at me like "get the fuck off the stage and let us see Kendall"
Then halfway though the night he starts putting two girls on stage at once, and then that REALLY screws me, when I'm topless and all eyes should be on me, Kendall gets up on the pole and pulls up her dress, etc....basically I might as well just walk off stage. And he's playing Laneys music my first song, and Kendall's the second!!
The other DJ is the greatest, he helps me out alot, plays my music, announces the girls on standby when you start, not while your dancing. Plus, (it's expensive) he makes a program designed for each girl with your stagename, pictures, whatever that plays while your onstage....trys to not put more than one girl on stage at a time, He realizes that all eyes should be on the topless dancer if he has to, and asks the other girl to stay near the main stage and off the poles, and when there aren't enough girls, or customers he stops putting girls on stage, so we can make money! I take good care of him!
But......the first DJ, is also the GMSo, I can't say shit to him! Whenever I do, he's like "well, then go home, but if you leave we'll charge you $50 for missing your shift" or crap like that. So, I put up with his shit, and then at the end of the night, he's always complaining about how much the girls tip him out (which is a horrible cycle, I hate the way he DJ's, so I tip him crap, so he hates me, and DJ-ing's worse) the worse part, he makes SALARY so he gets paid good even if he's getting NO tipout!
I've gotten in the habit of calling before I come into work, and finding out who's DJ that night. I won't work with Rod anymore! He's a good manager and takes care of the club well, but he makes a lousy DJ, and he thinks he's god gift to it!
Hottie on the Hood





I have this horrible thing with DJ's. Either they fall madly in love with me and stalk me, or they just don't like me.
I am a good tipper, but I tip by performance, so if a DJ always sucks, he never learns that I'm a good tipper. The DJ at my current club is a complete asshole. He knows that I'm an animal person so he likes to talk in front of me about how he beats his dog, etc. I just ignore him. He has one girl that he always talks up, even while a feature is on stage. He doesn't follow any kind of order, and he would put me up once or twice a night when the club was at it's slowest. Finally last friday there were a lot of people at the stage tipping and no one buying dances and I'd been there for four hours without being on stage (and there were only like 15 girls there). So I went up to him and said hey, you put me up, you get a cut of what I make, every time I go up. He was like yeah, right. But he put me up and right after I came off stage, I gave him half of what I made on stage. Then every time he put me up for the rest of the night I gave him five dollars. All of a sudden I'm the "beautiful, alluring, incredible Sienna" instead of just "Sienna to the stage please."
I once made the mistake of asking a dj why he never said anything about me when he put me on stage. He responded that he didn't know me. I wasn't going to tell him anything too personal, since he was likely to announce everything to the world ("gentlemen, here's kitty... she broke up with her boyfreind just now on her phone in my booth" was common with the girls he knew well). So I told him that I was named after a goddess. So he played "She's A Maneater" and announced me as "Lilith, goddess of destruction" and i'm wearing a cutesy little girl red dress and braids!
Lena





Well, here we go, I've been thinking about THIS one for a while, and even started to answer once, only to quit halfway through. There have been some questions brought up here that have no easy answers.
I have to say that the stripclub DJs I have worked with and heard "perform" are, as a group, among the lowliest, least talented, and most obnoxious bunch of losers I have ever seen. Even a high proportion of the "good" ones--they are often actually the worst. While it is easy to view all of them with the contempt that so many deserve, this would be a mistake, and won't help you make more money dancing.
It would also be akin to the distressingly common tendency for guys who have dealt with a few whacked-out, drug-addled, deceitful strippers to mistakenly assume that that's all they can ever expect to find. Anyone who has spent even a little time here can testify to the contrary.
As I read some of these posts, my heart goes out to you who have had to deal with this s**t from guys who aren't fit to tie my shoes, regardless of the fact that many of them make a lot of money. But sadly I have seen all of these things with my own eyes. And some of your just complaints could, I confess, even be made of my own performance as a DJ.
Though I love techno and would play it 80% of the time if I had my way, I would also love to see Pamela feed that miserable excuse for a DJ his own CDs, and maybe get it on video for later enjoyment. Lena, your snotty little punk should be strung up by his thumbs for that "Goddess of Destruction" comment. And Leigh, I pity the moron so unfortunate as to be incapable of appreciating your charming and irrepressible spirit.
LittleOne, I confess I have had many complaints about my lists. But it is far harder than you might think to make them. Your DJ's problem is that he has neither the imagination nor the courtesy to stop putting you between the same two dancers, time after time. Perhaps his stagnant mental capacity could be due to the fact that he is also the manager, most of whom I've seen are if anything, worse than the damn DJs (DJ_WuLf and CrazyBob obviously excepted!).
I have made five or six different lists in one night more times than I can count, and rarely does the first one survive intact, even on a good night. There are so many different factors to take into consideration. The number one rule is VARIETY. That goes especially for music, but also appearance, lighting preferences, and dancing style. I have laboriously composed my fourth painstakingly balanced list of the night and been busy congratulating myself on its fiendishly clever perfection, only to be informed that I am an idiot for putting the aggrieved party right after another pole trick dancer, or blonde dancer, or big-breasted dancer, or the same one as last night, or...
And noone EVER wants to follow certain very talented dancers, some girls will pitch a fit if they can't dance right after their close friends, some girls cannot possibly go anywhere near that bitch they hate so much, it goes on and on...
Some clubs have a rule that the list goes by order of appearance on the floor, but I refuse to let the night be dictated by capricious fate. And also have three dancers in a row who are only capable of dancing (with any grace or enthusiasm) to the same damned music, that I'm really not supposed to play anyway.
Or who absolutely insist that ALL of the stage lights be turned off (more on that later). Or who just can't dance very well yet, because they just started (or ever, because they just can't dance). Or, in some clubs I have worked in, who all weigh distressingly close to my own 175 lbs. (please understand that while many men may love a full-figured girl, and more power to 'em, I have to space them out, or the guys that don't will be out the door).
Which brings us to the original question...
Unlike the vast majority of DJs I have seen, I refuse to say anything on the mike that I don't believe myself. While this makes it more difficult at times, it also means that unlike most DJs, what I say has a chance of actually being taken seriously by the dancers and the customers both. Especially if they have worked with me a while and know this: I damned well mean every word I say. That power of conviction comes through, believe me.
That means, of course, that if I don't personally find a dancer to be attractive I have to think very hard about what makes her special regardless...
I could just lie, like most of them do, and then have to say that the girl who was on the cover of last April's Gallery magazine, who moves with flawless grace and consummate timing, and happens to be a sweetheart, is the same kind of dancer as the one who is 40 lbs. overweight, can't dance to save her life, is kind of a bitch, really--and has B.O., to boot.
You think I'm joking, but I have been faced with this precise dilemma.
I didn't hesitate.
I refuse to make myself look like an imbecile, and have the guys dismiss me as yet another slick, cheesy bullshitter, by giving them both the same meaningless introduction.
Fortunately, not too many women come along who are as bad as "Tigress" (!).
But I have also found that some of my favorite all-time dancers are far from perfect physically, and they may not want to sleep with me either, for that matter. They deserve the chance to make as much money as the centerfold, and it's my job to give them that chance.
The answer lies in really getting to know the individual dancer as a living, breathing woman, not just another source of tips, who may or may not have a nice ass. I don't mean that I have to know the details of their personal life, but maybe if I figure out why her regulars find her special enough to keep coming back for more, I can convince the other guys that there's a very good reason for that.
In the meantime I will talk her up for being a brand new girl, or having a nice outfit, or for being very naughty, or for being ready to give you one hell of a VIP dance, there's always something nice to say.
It may take a little longer with some of them, but I have always been able to figure out something special to say about each and every dancer who proves she deserves it, by treating me with respect, and tipping me 10%. And I almost always get it without having to say a word.
Obviously it ain't gonna work in a club with 120 dancers, but I don't want to do that anyway.
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
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if a dj doesnt like u he can make your life hell..
there' a dj here in london that makes girls cry on a daily basis just for fun...a couple years ago i worked at this bar with a different dj who for some reason didn't like me...to make a long story short he got me barred and went so far as to go down to the bar im working at now and tell the staff there im a whore and i give blowjobs in the parking lot..needless to say they didn't believe him since they all knew me previously...but he still was a fucking bastard...i went into said bar last nite and hes back working there andhe looke at me kinda strange....like he's trying to place my face...but the fucker only has one eye............
blessed be




We have a DJ at our club that thinks he is god. Unfortunately the owners seem to think so too. From what I am told, if the girls don't tip enough, ($40 a shift) he seriously messes with them. There are 3 stages. If he doesn't like a girl, he puts her on in the PR even though there are no customers to sit at the rail. Sometimes he will wait till she is giving dances and call her to stage.I'm not sure if he messes with their music too. It would not surprise me.
This DJ thinks he is an MC. He is always talking when he should be playing music. Just an example. Two nights with the same money. One I got all my dances in and hour and 50 minutes. The other took 4.5 hours to get my dances in.
He is costing the girls a bundle.
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When the man says, "I do," it is the happiest day of her life.-Al Bundy
Some of these Stories are incredible! Ive been a DJ for over 20 years and never had DJ partners as bad as these. Even though I usually work upscale clubs there are still DJs not up to standard if you ladies are having these types of problems pool together and have him fired. We all have to work together, there are dancers that Im not fond of but they still get the same show as everyone else thats what being professional is all about!
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