Hi everyone!
Last night my partner and I were talking about going to work in the U.S. for a while.
Can anyone reccomend a good agency, or what clubs in which cities are decent to work in?
Any help would be great!
Raven
Hi everyone!
Last night my partner and I were talking about going to work in the U.S. for a while.
Can anyone reccomend a good agency, or what clubs in which cities are decent to work in?
Any help would be great!
Raven
Be prepared to be grilled at the border. Unless you are a citizen, you will be working illegally. It is a huge process to get the papers to do it legitimately, mind you it hasnt stopped many canadians, but remember you are breaking the law, and putting the club at risk too, if someone rats you out. (INS)
Some clubs won't hire you for the risk, and some girls will gladly turn you in.
Gosh I am the gloomy gus arent I? Dont mean to be just trying to alert you to some possibilities, I myself encountered these very issues all first hand.
They are really gung ho at the border too - I was grilled at entry and detained, I was only going to California to visit friends. They went through my bags photocopied my return ticket blah blah blah, I might add I was wearing a suit, minimal makeup and my "miss beasly" glasses. So its not as though I was all "tarted up" looking for trouble.
They asked me what I did for a living like 4 times, I highly doubt they forgot the first 3 times they asked inasmuch as I think they thought I would get rattled and slip up.
Two girls I know that work Jersey were caught sent back to Canada and flagged.
Anyway PLEASE be careful?
LIVE LONG & PROSPER!
Leigh Landon
Never explain yourself to anyone, because the person who likes you doesn't need it and the person that dislikes you won't believe it.




Absolutely DITTO what Leigh said. The U.S. border/customs folks are dead serious now-a-days. Sorry, but true. Personally, I think it sucks, but there ya go.
THE WAY to do it, by the way, is if you can get the right kind of visa to work here FOR SOME OTHER TYPE JOB then work as a stripper, you'll be OK. But, the first time I came across the border from Canada into the US, even though I was riding in a car with U.S. plates and had a U.S. drivers license, I was treated like dog s--t by our customs. It's totally cuz they're that way to young women. The next time, I had to make sure I was carrying my U.S. Passport. I'm not kidding. So don't feel bad -- it's not just YOU they harass.
The sex was so good, the neighbors needed a cigarette!
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yep...i agree w/ leigh...be prepared at the border..especially if u get searched and they find all the dancing gear...i know a couple girls that dance in michigan but they pay a hefty house fee....
blessed be





if you plan on working in a state that borders Canada, be aware that virtually every club which has high earnings potential will require you to fill out a job application, including your real name, address, and social security number. Considering that as a Canadian citizen you won't have a social security number, this creates a dilemma immediately. If you tell the club you don't have an SS#, homeland security being what it is they probably won't hire you. If you give a fake US address and SS# you are going on record with false information. Also, all US "employers" are supposed to check citizenship, although most clubs never do. Given that the dance club economy in most states that border Canada is hurting pretty bad, as Leigh says the probability of a "jealous" co-worker in an upscale club ratting you out to the INS is high enough to consider a possibility.
There are of course many many US clubs that will hire you in a second without any application or ID check. But these clubs disregard for employment laws is usually indicative of disregard for other laws as well, such as drugs, "extras" etc.
The one ruse that used to work was for girls to claim that they were students at local colleges. However, these days I'm pretty sure that your supposed college ID will be checked by the club. And if you try to work in a city that requires dancer's licensing, zero chance! To obtain a license you will have to make an application to local police or city officials, who WILL check official US government records.
The only legal way to do this is to apply for a work visa. However, given the US government anti-Canadian sentiment for their failure to support us on Iraq, this will be an even tougher challenge than it normally would have been. Exotic dancing is not exactly a profession which the US government wants to encourage.
I am really surprised to hear about your guys' border problems. I travel from Buffalo to Canada at least once a week to work, and I also have a friend who lives there that I go see. I have been working in Canada since November, and the worst that has happened is that I was asked to open my trunk so the customs officer could have a quick peek. This happened not more than 3 times. And half the time when I cross back to go to the US I don't even need to see my license.
I am sorry to hear about the problems everyone else is having. :-/



Personally I've found that a woman travelling alone is way more likely to get hassled at the border. I never have any issues when travelling with my daughter, but especially when flying alone, they always give me a hard time. I can drive across fairly easily now that I have my nexus pass, but during the post 9/11 period when the commuter programs were suspended it was a real pain.
It was suggested to me that enrolling in only one course at a community college could be enough to claim "student" status, anyone know about that?
ARA, hello first of all!
And secondly that is an extremely good point to mention and I am going to look into it this week!
Wait student status while IN the states...or Canada, because I claim student status when declaring my employment status ( I am enrolled) when I cross the border and it made no never mind they could give a rats ass.
Still got grief!
Do u mean student staus for appying for work in a club in the states right? Still no social security number etc though....or home address?
goin in circles goin in circles goin in circles - oop caught my tail LOL!
BTW what is a nexus pass?
LIVE LONG & PROSPER!
Leigh Landon
Never explain yourself to anyone, because the person who likes you doesn't need it and the person that dislikes you won't believe it.



Hi Leigh!
I was told (by an American customer, so have no idea about accuracy), that you can get some sort of a special work permit in the US if you are enrolled there as a student. I haven't checked it out at all, so I have no idea what would be involved. This customer lives in Nevada (but is stationed near Seattle right now), and said that he had met many foreign dancers in Vegas who were able to get work permits because they were students. Of course, they also would have residency, but a US address wouldn't really be a problem for me as my parents live there and I already get mail there and such.
As far as Nexus, basically it is a pre-clearance program for frequent cross border commuters. It is a joint initiative between both governments which allows you to use express lanes at certain border crossings with a special pass. You go through an application process which involves criminal checks on both sides, fingerprinting, photographs, and interviews. I think I paid $50 US and it's good for 5 years. My daughter's was no charge. You still stop at the border and show or scan your pass, but the questioning is minimal, and you avoid the lineups. You do have to declare a reason for your visits on the application, in my case my parents live in Washington state, so it was no problem. I know that they are in operation at four crossings in Ontario, as well as here in BC. You can get more info at the CCRA website:
http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/customs/i...us/menu-e.html




When crossing the border, have as many forms of ID as possible. Specifically, a passport or Canadian birth certificate, and your Driver's License. If your name is different than on your birth certificate (married, divorced, etc), have the necessary legal paperwork to document the name change and why it occurred.
You are likely to have less trouble if you are travelling from Canada to the States in a US vehicle driven by an American friend, preferably a US male.
Do not volunteer information to border guards - only answer questions that they specifically ask you. Be aware that they sometimes they will ask you the same question three times, but word it differently each time. in the hopes of tripping you up. Some of the questions will be quite confusing if you don't fully catch them the first time, and you will be essentially interrogated as to why you did not answer them properly as a result. Also, do not make any attempts at humor with these people. They do not have a sense of humor. It was beatenout of them at border-guard training.
Be prepared to show and declare any tobacco or alcohol you bring with you. Have doctor's note for any prescription medication you may have, stating it is medically necessary for you to have them and why. Also make sure your prescriptions are in a clearly labelled bottle with YOUR name and a current expiration date.
Also, when you pack, make an itemized list of what you are bringing with you, and the estimated financial value of each item. Also note that you bought them in Canada, and check labels to determine as much as possible where each item was made. This is especially true with jewellery!!! This will be very helpful to you if custom's decided to give you any shit by searching you or laying down duties on you, AND it should help you avoid duty problems when coming back into Canada by preventing you from paying duties on things you took with you in the first place.
Convert some of your cash to US dollar before you leave Canada. If you do get nailed at the border by having to pay duties, this will make life a little smoother. It will also make it easier to fuel up and whatnot after you get over the border.
I fyou will be staing in the States, be prepared to be sent to the immigration office, with all your paperwork, where they will begin all the red tape and ask you a million more questions. If they like the answers you give them, don't catch you in any lies, and feel you have all the necessary paperwork to prove you are legit, then they should issue you a visa. They will most likely require you to provide them with an address and phone number where you may be contacted inthe States.
This is the kind of crap I get to deal with every time I want to go to the States for a visit, or come back to Canada after such a trip, and I'm a US citizen, for crying out loud. And I agree that much of it has to do with being female. Each time Tre has travelled across the border by himself, they have given him very little trouble at all.
Once in the States, immediately learn the phone number and location for your nearest Canadian embassy. You never know when you may need it. And also make sure you have enough US currency put aside that you can easily make it back into Canada with less than 24 hour notice, if you really need to do so.
I also recommend buying into some form of Traveller's insurance for those travelling abroad to the States. Canada's health coverage will not cover you, as far as I know, if you fall ill or are badly injured.
I can't help you much with what you will need to know about working at a club, other than that everyone else is correct in that it is illegal if you do not have an appropriate work visa, and you can be detained and deported if you get caught. Perhaps it would be worth your while to look into a work visa? I know if I got one to work here in Canada at this time, it would cost me $250 Canadian.
http://www.amcits.com may be able to provide you with a little bit of relevant information on visas.
McCain
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