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    Hey all... hope everyone is well.

    Had a bad nite today
    Made 30 onstage and stayed for about an hour.. didn't get any dances so headed home. Had a question for everyone.. does it ever seem like some guys get a thrill out of seeing how long they can spend time with you without paying? What's a polite way to ask them to tip you for your time?

    Marika

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    As a customer, I can't argue with, "Sweetie, I like talking to you, but this is my work time, and I need to make some money now." If I want her to stay, I either need to get a dance or cough up money for her time.

    Sorry about your bad night, Bebe.

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    Marika> why did you leave? I mean, there are bad periods and good periods in the same night. It happens all the time! You know this, I'm sure.

    As for getting paid for your time, some guys won't pay you for your time because they don't want to. But you can kind of encourage them by saying stuff like, "well, it was nice talking, but I really need to make some money tonight...I should go work the bar" and if he doesn't get the idea, tell him "maybe we can do some lap dances in a bit"

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    You'll have to learn how to tell a guy or insinuate that he should buy you a dance if he wants to remain with you. Of course, I'm not clear as to whether you had a slow night in terms of client turnout or if you had a guy monopolizing your time without buying dances from you???



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    I won't spend longer than 7 minutes or so with a new guy. I can pretty much tell if he just wants to chat only by that time.
    I flirt, i tease i laugh, if all fails, i leave...Tell him to keep me in mind, and move on to other guys.
    I will stop back by him later, but if he does not bite than, i will not bother, but to say "hey i'm a wild girl". Than of course explain wild. (what wild is to you of course).
    Some guys just don't buy, period. Or are into a certain look.
    Pamela. Yes and those kinda nights suck.

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    I am afraid that some guys absolutly do get a kick out of getting a dancer to spend time with them for free. They are they same ones who stare and droll at a dancer who is on stage but when you go near them to get a tip the refuse to tip. There are always a few in a cluib every night with this attitude- it seems to be a get back at women thing... And yes it bites.
    I would have stayed longer than an hour working a shift though, "Mr. Moneybags Looking for Just your Type" could have walked in the door at any time during the shift. There are good nights and bad nights, but hopefuly they balance themselves out. I never sat for more than 3 songs without a tip or a dance, if they didn't want to get a dance or pay for time I would move on. I called it the 3 song rule and would always tell new dancers the same thing if they inquired. If a customer were nice otherwise I would check back again to see if they were ready yet to do some dances and often they would but not always ofcourse. I am sure your next shift will be better!
    Take care,
    Tiger

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    Forgot to mention that often if on my second try if a guy refused me I'd ask if he was looking for a specific dancer or type- if he was I'd help get her/that type to his table. I earned some nice tips or even double dances like this, as well as a good relations with other dancers who would do the same thing if I was the type that a customer was looking for..... just an idea to keep in mind.

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    I think Pamela's being nice. I'll do one song of freebie chat max, then I'll point blank ask him "how 'bout a dance?" If he says no or not yet or whatever, then it's "well, hun, when you change your mind, I'll be right here" and I walk on to the next (paying!) customer. But -- and this is VERY important -- I leave him on a high note. I say something about how REALLY nice he was to talk to and how VERY much I'd like to talk with him again later if I get the time.....

    Then, that's that. On to the next customer. IF and ONLY IF I've made the complete rounds, then I'll start back with him. It's gotta be a DAMN slow night for me to get back to a guy who turned down a dance the first time.

    If he approaches ME later, then I'll drop any one of a dozen excuses, like "God, I'd LOVE to talk with you some more, but the Manager is really an asshole (usually true anyway....) and I've got to do more dances. Ya know?" Most (all?) customers are working stiffs, and know what it's like to have a "production quota" (LOL....)

    Here's the key (at least for ME): I ALWAYS give the guys some conversation BEFORE asking them if they'd like a dance. Natch, it helps that I'm Ms. Chatterbox. (They say I came out of the womb and struck up a conversation with my Mom's OB/GYN.... it's where I learned to enjoy getting a little spanking....). On a BUSY night, the conversation might be just a few sentences -- a minute or two. On a slower night, it's almost always a whole song. However, I've found that this nearly GUARANTEES that the guy is gonna buy a dance.

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    Lol Susan great advice! Sometimes i do spend longer than need be. I can tell after the fact. It pays off sometimes, and others i look over at and think JERK. Hustling gets tiring. But it's the biggest part of my job, i think it keeps me in top "mind shape" when a real doosie comes along! I can say F. off. But instead smile and say it under my breath while walking away. They just will never see it! And i come back for more, sometimes the second time around works! But taxing at times.

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    From a guy's perspective, I can completely respect what Susan says.

    If a girl sits and chats with me, and I don't want a dance, I try to give her that hint that she is wasting her time. If she continues to sit with me, I'll say something like "I don't want to keep you from making $."

    If she continues to sit after I told her that, then it's possible I WILL buy a dance due to her not 'hustling' me. Of course, sometimes the club is dead and I guess some girls just want to chat with someone who isn't an old, grossely overweight, poorly groomed pervert.

    There is nothing worse than politely declining a dance and then have the dancer act like I've insulted her and storm off in a huff. If I observe a girl doing this to someone else, I'll decline a dance with her simply because of her poor attitude with the previous customer.

    Food for thought from a guy's perspective.

    I hope the $ picks up for you.

    VivaLV

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