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    I was interested in whether dancers from varios parts of the country look down upon dancers from Houston because of teh way that so many dancers in Houston make theyre money like by giving extras and having sex with customers outside the club.
    Do you dancers from other areas see dancers from Houston as inferior to yourselves?

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    I don't look down on Houston dancers. I would just never, ever work there. Also, I wouldn't be all that happy if a Houston dancer came to work at my club in Oregon because I would assume her boundaries were quite low and I can't compete on that level.
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    Echo what Heather said...I could never be a dancer in Houston. Hope the dancers and the customers stay there..

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    I had a brush with a customer from Houston in my first week at my new club (2 weeks ago now).

    I'm Australian so if it wasn't for this board (truth!) I wouldn't have a clue that what this particular customer was expecting from ME (or any dancer in the club) was quite the "norm" in Houston.

    Yes, he expected more than just touching tit and ass. So what has been said about the Houston clubs must be true as he wouldn't buy a dance due to us not allowing anything "extra" (this includes kissing or any open mouth contact with my boobs or arse, touching my gentials or anything sexual).

    In my personal opinion, if a Houston dancer came to the Gold Coast to work... she most likely would be fired from every club. It is highly illegal to do anything "extra" nor even offer to do it "outside of work".

    I wouldn't stigmatize her... however I would be watching her carefully due to knowing what happens in Houston.


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    Same here. I don't feel any 'better' than a Houston dancer, but I certainly won't ever dance in that town, and as soon as a customer tells me he's from Houston I waste no time leaving that table. I'm not about to put up with their bs.

    I do however, tend to be wary of girls from Houston when I meet them in other areas, because I know what they're used to and they will only cause trouble if they pull that crap where I work. However, I don't begrudge a girl in the least for moving to another area where she can make good money without being expected to have sex for the price of a couple dances.

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    I think it would be wrong to assume that every dancer from Houston does "extras" or allows for extreme high contact. Hell, if you want to know where all the "tame", normal dancers are, just follow me. There's a running joke between my friends and me that I'm the only one that can walk into Treasures and find the dancers that allow for more normal contact like you'd find anywhere else in the country.

    Houston just happens to have a spotlight on it due to places like ASPD which pretty much thrives on dancers who do more than just dance. I've met plenty of Houston dancers traveling through Austin that weren't super high contact and who certainly don't deserve to have any kind of stigma attached to them.

    By the way, if I remember correctly, the Super Bowl is in Houston next year. How many ladies from this site will be traveling down there for that?
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    Wow, I would be worried that there would be actual law enforcement coming into the clubs before the Super Bowl or some such nonsense like there always is before an event like that. But of course I will give the Men's Club a shot at that time!

    I don't look down on dancers from Houston, but like Bridgette I am hesistant to dance for customers from there - night before last I sat down at some guy's table, he said he was from Houston, then tried to put my hand on his dick. Also, the manager at this club, which is part of the Rick's chain, said that he fired a ton of girls that had come over from Houston to dance because of their activities. But by no means is every dancer in Houston an extras-dancer, and even if she is that doesn't mean she is going to do the same in a club where that is not the norm.

    Funnily enough, I have danced for a few guys from there that prefer a more R-rated than X-rated experience in a club; that is, that are more interested in looking than getting off. So there is a market there for dancers that don't do extras.

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    Wow, I would be worried that there would be actual law enforcement coming into the clubs before the Super Bowl or some such nonsense like there always is before an event like that.
    I'm thinking the same thing. It would be funny if they actually tried to enforce the so-called 3-foot rule. LE might dampen down extras in the club, but I'm not really sure that would affect the "take-out" industry.

    I already keep an eye on Houston from time-to-time, but I'll definitely be keeping my eyes and ears on Houston the latter part of the year through the Super Bowl. It could get pretty interesting down there.
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    when the superbowl was in tampa a few years back they had just started a 6 foot ordinace and made national news by welcoming the superbowl visiters with a trip to jail for getting busted in the strip clubs!
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    :o What!!! I can't believe this shit! Not every dancer is like that! I'm from houston and proud of it too! I dont and I repeat I dont do extras. I'm already fed up with customers who would ask for extras and etc. I normally would walk away from that prevert and move on to next customer. I dont let no asshole try to touch below the waist. I dont even like him touching my tits for that matter. I dont pull no bullshit either from any customers or dancers.

    If Im gonna be judged that way just because I'm from houston then never mind traveling through your town. I know there are dancers from all over that do extras and so on. I would stay away from them too. Geez, I dont need anyone to look down on me just because I'm from houston!


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    Clubs have girls providing those "extras" no matter what city or state you are in. I have read alot about Texas on this board, and just could not believe that all or even most dancers are doing this crap. Im in Florida, and can't tell you how many times i have seen or heard of so-n-so doing an "extra" . Guys will be guys, good and bad, and dancers will be dancers good and bad. It's every place.
    Velvet and djoser may very well remember a club called "The Fox Den" in florida, that club had guys coming from Georgia and the carolinas to visit. I knew the owner and his "side kick". The place got busted maybe 3 times, then shut down to never open again. One guy sold a home just to pay the fines....After he got out of jail. It was one of the nastiest busts i heard of. And the club was good looking too. Just anything went. Thats not Houston. Look a little closer at some of the clubs you frequent in your state, town sometime, you may get shocked. Pamela

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    I agree with Pamela that there's a certain percentage of dancers who routinely deliver "extras" in virtually every city in the USA. However, there's a lot of leeway in that percentage i.e. maybe 5% or less in states with strict law enforcement to maybe 20% in cities which have less conservative dance club laws and less strict law enforcement, versus 80% in Houston or San Francisco. This of course does not address the "take out trade" as AggieEd so aptly put it. I have no negative feelings at all for Houston dancers or any other dancers who are forced to make a choice between earning slightly more than a WalMart cashier for staying within the law versus earning enough money to pay their bills by doing what 4 out of 5 other dancers are doing. If anything, I feel sympathy for being trapped in that situation. I can fully understand why dancers from Houston and travelling to clubs in other cities do not do extras ... that's the entire reason they decided to travel, to get away from the super high sleaze factor !!!!!

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    Like Melonie said. Again I don't look down on dancers from Houston - but I am wary when I meet them in other areas because some are travelling to get away from the sleaze and some travel for other reasons and bring the sleaze with them, either not being used to tamer rules or not caring. I have no problem whatsoever with a Houston dancer who leaves the sleaze in Houston, but I do have a problem if she brings it to my club - that's bad for everyone. And once again, I do avoid customers from Houston like the plague because I know what they're used to and I'm not going to waste my time fighting them. I absolutely will not be going to Houston to work for Super Bowl or any other time, ever.

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    wow pamela never heard of the fox den where was it.
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    Actually Houston seems to be second to Atlanta for extracurricular activities.....

    I personally doubt there will be any more or less LE activity prior to the Superbowl..... The city rakes in some serious cash from the licensing fees as well as tax base of the clubs there. The local police force will be too busy with Homeland Security issues I would think. That alone added to their already overworked force should preclude any involvement.

    When the sex is behind closed doors in the hotels, clubs and spas it gets far fewer complaints than the street scene and when they need to make a little news splash they tend to target that.

    I personally expect that as women flock to the city expecting a huge cash windfall that locals will struggle for regular money and it will be a "buyers market"
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    I don't get what the deal is with Houston. It can't have the dirtiest clubs in the entire country, can it? I live here and think it is a pretty unremarkable place to be. Why does it have such a reputation in the strip club industry? I guarantee you that although the clubs here have a reputation as offering endless sexual favors, it is not that easy and it is more discreet than you might think.
    I don't know about everyone else, but I'm coming from the point of view in which even something 'small' in Houston like breast and butt fondling isn't allowed in the club. It's my assumption that something like that is pretty much child's play in Houston, and generally expected across the board from Houston customers. I have had way too many Houston travelers get really miffed when they find out they can't get the same stuff in other cities. I'm perfectly aware that extras are provided by dancers in every locale, but when what most of us consider at least medium-high mileage is part of a 'regular' dance in a particular city, that city gets a bad rep really quickly. Furthermore, I and I daresay several others have read on the aspd boards the kind of activities that FREQUENTLY occur in Houston clubs, so that only serves to perpetuate the reputation. But I wouldn't dance in Houston even years before I'd heard of aspd - I had just heard that it was wild from several other dancers and knew it wasn't for me.

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    After reading my previous reply-I should do some clarification-When I said I hoped Houston dancers/customers stay in Houston, I meant those type of activities/expectations.

    I feel that way about any dancer/customer coming into my club-regardless of where they're from... just seems to be much more prevalent in Texas.

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    Houston Strip Club Customers come from all over the world.

    Houston is a MAJOR convention market and the headquarters of MANY businesses. It is also a PORT city bringing International clients to town.

    The men that frequent Houston clubs are probably a very high percentage of "out of towners" that also frequent clubs all over the country.


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    Damn I dont know why are y'all making a fuckin' big deal about Houston??!! I know there are some extra and activities were done in houston clubs but of course those girls were fired!! I'm sure in YOUR clubs there are some shit like that happen too. Like Melonie said it happens in every club in every city. I'm not gonna pass down any judgement if I knew some shit goes down in your club, it doesn't mean u 're one of them that does those extras. As for those girls who have came through your town and into clubs shouldn't have done that and I'm not gonna apologize for her behavior for that matter. But what really pisses me off is that y'all acted like all dancers or most dancers does that in houston and try to bring it out in other towns. That's NOT TRUE!!!! NOT all dancers are like that I'm sure u know that however what do U do or say about those dancers in your hometown do shit like that in the club?????

    Oh man I need to calm down, Im so fuckin' pissed and it's all bullshit too. I gotta go before I say something to offend anyone here.

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    Ok, let me put it this way - Houston dancers aren't necessarily stigmatized, but Houston clubs definitely are. However, Hershey, I definitely don't think that the majority of dancers provide extras there. I know women that are dancers there that do not and are frustrated at having to deal with it in the clubs. I am glad that you work somewhere where you don't have to deal with it - and I am also curious as to where you work - message me if you don't want to post it.

    Also, I am going to refrain from commenting further on Houston until I have personal experience there.

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    I think the starter of this thread simply wanted to know if you go work somewhere else and tell people that you are from a particular city, in this case Houston, do clubowners and/or other girls give you a wary reception. Its the same way that if you work in an upscale club and a girl from the reputed brothel type club in ur same town comes to work there.
    She may look just as beautiful as you, but you wonder what type is she to work there b/c that club she has previously worked has a reputation. U urself wouldn't be caught dead there, but she worked there. Looks are comparable so you wonder why was she working at such a place, and whether or not she was contributing to that reputation.
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    I danced in Houston for over a year and still pop in between road bookings.

    most people never really knew what was available in many of the clubs there until reading about it on the web.

    Every dancer there doesn't fuck and suck and even the ones who do don't do it with everyone or publicly announce it.

    this is just another stereotype, the same as is used with girls of color.

    Girls change the amount of contact they give based on what is the norm where they work. Heather, and all of you who don't want us working where you work need to exercise common sense. ALL of you who dance change the amount of contact you allow or deliver based on what is the norm where you work.

    AND, in EVERY club where ALL of us work many of you and your co-workers hook up with customers after work and deliver sex for money.

    guys are the same in EVERY city and boycotting a guy just because he is from Houston is plain stupid. Guys go with the flow in clubs based on what they know is available in the particular club they are in.

    Girls, if you were in 2 clubs during male dancer night, 1 where you can grab the guys dicks and they can rub all over you and another where contact is much less, would you be pushing for more contact where you know it is not allowed?

    Of course you wouldn't.

    All of you as dancers must realize that ALL guys want sex from girls who turn them on. They may try to hide it but they do. Don't think for a minute that guys in Portland Oregon are different than Bay Area or Houston guys.

    In our chosen profession we make guys dicks hard. Some of us don't take it any further than that and others for the right amount of dollars willgive the guys sex.

    Don't pretend that you are not a sex object as a dancer. This business is all about sex, and if you are ashamed of that stigma, stop dancing!!!

    Stop the stereotyping. ALL guys in ALL cities are the same and many dancers including some of you posters on this board if in an environment where mgmt doesn't care what you do with the customers would deliver the extras too!!!!

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    hershey,

    your club really isn't a Houston club? Your club was not even bound to the 3 foot rule until just recently.

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    :o Not another stripper stereotype! As if we didn't have enough of them running around as it is


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    I think some people are getting some of the comments here confused. No one has said they look down on Houston dancers. Some of us have said we may be a little wary because of the reputation the city has, but we are all willing to put it aside when we can see the dancer is cool. As for the stigmatization of customers, I say again: I've had way too many guys tell me they're from Houston, then try to shove their fingers in my pussy and suck my nipples within the first five seconds of a dance. When I explain to them that it doesn't work that way here, they get all indignant and start the 'this place is a rip-off' crap. As a result of this happening so many times, I avoid any customer who tells me he's from Houston because I don't want or need that bs. There are way too many other customers I can dance for who will be more respectful. Of course there are men from all over who try to get more than they're supposed to, but the ones from Houston always seem to be particularly aggressive and negative in attitude.

    Whispers is absolutely right to say that there are customers from all over the world who visit Houston clubs when in that city - same as in any major city - but I daresay that those travelers also understand that what is available in Houston isn't so available in other cities.

    And yes, same goes for San Francisco. I am just as wary of customers from there, if not more, BUT I have had better experiences with guys from that city as they seem to have a better understanding of the fact that things are not the same everywhere as in their hometown - they still want mileage, but they usually ask before trying to shove fingers in orifices, and they don't yap on and on about how they're being ripped off if they can't do so.

    And just to further clarify that I don't single out Houstonites: I have had equally bad experiences with customers from the DC area, and am equally wary of them.

    Anyway, there's no reason for anyone to be upset by these statements. It's nothing against Houston or <insert certain other city names here> dancers - it's more about bad experiences with customers from those areas.

    Hershey, I think you're misunderstanding what some of us are saying and getting upset over nothing. None of us here feel negative about you or any Houston dancer. We only feel negative about dancers who engage in illegal activities in our clubs, and it doesn't matter where they're from.

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