Does anyone know what became of the MI lcc legal garbage (3ft. away, 18" off ground, no tipping while topless)? It was supposed to take effect today, but I seriously doubt it will make it to the surface. Haven't heard anything yet
Does anyone know what became of the MI lcc legal garbage (3ft. away, 18" off ground, no tipping while topless)? It was supposed to take effect today, but I seriously doubt it will make it to the surface. Haven't heard anything yet





as far as I know, these new legal restrictions did in fact become Michigan law today. This is why I won't be returning to one of my all time favorite clubs in Edwardsburg, MI any more. If this actually goes down like it has when other localities have enacted similar ordinances, quite a few clubs will continue to operate ignoring the new legal restrictions. After a couple of weeks, this will be followed by a round of busts. These busts will be arrests of DANCERS charged with violating the distance rule etc, not arrests of clubowners or customers. After a year of this, clubowners will get a realistic idea of what sort of actual activities will result in busts and which activities won't, and they'll change their club operation to avoid being busted. Also, once the dancer busts start hitting local TV and newspapers, club customers will stay away in droves. After the initial hoopla dies down, most but not all of them will come back to the clubs.
In Houston, there is an ordinance which was enacted which says that dancers have to be at least three feet away from the customer during a dance. This law is ALWAYS ignored.
Since this ordinance took effect, sexual contact in strip clubs has INCREASED. MANY dancers in Houston perform "mild extras" like putting their nipples in their customer's mouth during a dance OUT IN THE OPEN IN FRONT OF EVERYONE!!
Time will tell what kind of effect the Michigan ordinance has.
I am a dancer in Detroit, and word has it that the law won't go into effect. This is what I have heard from my agent and club owners in the area. This is my first week dancing, but I have been told that they try to pass this type of law every year at election time, to no avail. I am not sure about details yet, but I know the club I worked last night posted a document in the dressing room that supposedly said the law wouldn't go through. I will post more info as I learn what is going on. No one is really sure at this point.
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you will long to return.





Again. I have no more specific information about the new Michigan law, but if it goes down like it has in other places the posting at your club probably indicates that some group has filed an appeal and has managed to get a "Stay Order" from a Michigan judge preventing enforcement of the new law until the appeal is completed. If this is really what happened, for the next six months or so the police will be legally prevented from enforcing this law.
Also, if this goes down like it has in other places, in order to avoid being accused of violating the judge's order, for the next six months police will avoid going into the clubs for any reason unless they're forced to! This usually means gold mine time for dancers for the next six months as existing state laws can now be bent with less chance of a bust than ever.
Once the legal appeal is completed six months from now, the "Stay Order" will be lifted and what happens next in the clubs will depend on the success or failure of the appeal.
My comparison is based on what happened when South Bend, Indiana attempted to enact a "pastie" law which was appealed a few years ago. Ultimately the state level appeal failed, and the clubowners again appealed to the US Supreme court! In the end, all courts decided against the clubowners and the "pastie" law finally went into effect. But in the 18 months between the first local appeal and the Supreme court decision all of the South Bend clubs were in "anything goes" mode as they were 'protected' by a "Stay Order". Once all of the appeals were unsuccessful, the clubs were forced to clean up their act and obey the "pastie law". But all this really did was move the "action" out of the clubs and into the back seats of Limos!
I stay in contact with the owner of my favorite Michigan club, Pleasant Lake Resort in Edwardsburg. I'll try and find out the gorey details of what's actually going on with this new state law. I DO know that Edwardsburg's new city government is trying to pass a local ordinance which, if successful, would basically close down this club in terms of having dancers forcing it to become just one more alcohol bar - the clubowner is fighting it of course.
Please keep me updated on the whole law subjects. That is very interesting. I have never heard of those laws before. I work in North Carolina but I have heard of the 3 feet law but like said before, it is never followed or listened too. Just keep me updated. Appreciate!![]()
"...it was a queer shaped little creature, and held it's arms in all directions,'just like a starfish'" (carrol)
The laws aren't going into effect, which means that whordes of dancers won't be dashing for the unemployment line now, thank god. I know I am so relieved that i will still be able to make money. I am new to the business, but from what i have heard from agents and managers and other dancers, they try to pass some ordinance like this every year.
For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you will long to return.





Don't take for granted that nothing will happen. From my experience every time a proposed change in dance club operations occurs it always creates some sort of loss for us.
The people who propose the anti- dance laws usually don't get everything they want but we always lose something and in most cases that means no contact on table dances which may as well be losing over half our incomes!!
Dancers and customers have to stand up now!
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