my club on only had 9 people the whole night wed.... It was very sad.. and every other friday its 12 or less ppl in there the whole night..
when can i expect this shit to pic up.. i mean hot damn..
my club on only had 9 people the whole night wed.... It was very sad.. and every other friday its 12 or less ppl in there the whole night..
when can i expect this shit to pic up.. i mean hot damn..





Shan,
Thats AWEFUL!! Sounds like you either need to find a new club, start traveling, or both!
Rebecca Avalon
well the girls told me that its usually this bad about this time of the year.. it doesent help that alot of people are losing their jobs.
they told me as soon as summer hits they ill be making atleast 600 - 800/ day
Shan
I don't know if this is any consolation but I would think that you have read about what MANY dancers in Houston are doing to make money. The clubs in Houston seem very slow lately and guys don't seem to be buying many dances. Maybe they are tired of paying OVERINFLATED dance prices.
Could be a tad slow in alot of places now. Me for one as well.
Pamela





Hasn't been that bad here, not by a long shot. Maybe you should investigate warmer climes.
Shan
I don't know if this is any consolation but I would think that you have read about what MANY dancers in Houston are doing to make money. The clubs in Houston seem very slow lately and guys don't seem to be buying many dances. Maybe they are tired of paying OVERINFLATED dance prices.
Over inflated?! My body is worth more then a few meesley dollars expecially with all the BS i have to put up with all damned night... and ill be damed if i would dance for less..
And no i havent, what exactly are many dancers in houston doing?..
Yah just hold on things WILL and do pick up - its like this every year. I normally take my time off the first 2 months of the year and put aside enough cash to do so comfortably.
Stag season just around the corner too! And spring break, etc hang tight pretty girl, its comin'!!
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I've sometimes found that clubs where I live are considerably busier during cold weather months. In fact, a lot of dancers here say that summertime is the slow season, because a lot of customers are generally out on vacation, playing softball, etc. when the weather is nice and their kids are out of school.
Hasn't been that bad here, not by a long shot. Maybe you should investigate warmer climes.
Not sure where you're located Shan, but often it depends on where you are, the time of year and the nature of both the local and tourist traffic there.
If you're in a city with pro/college sports teams, things are likely to pick up when those teams seasons are ongoing. Unless you live in a NBA or NHL city, things may be a tad slow right now. If you have a racetrack or drag strip nearby, keep posted for when the big events are at those facilities. Race fans LOVE strippers!!
I'd also be on the lookout for conventions being held where you live, even small ones.
Former SCJ now in rehab.
My business has nothing whatsoever to do with dancing. It's slow for me as well. I'd spend more time in a club, since I have more spare time, but I'm not sure that I'll have the disposable income later on if I spend it now.![]()





I agree that some of the slowness is seasonal, particularly north of the Mason-Dixon line, and should improve as the weather improves. I'll also agree that some of the slowness is seasonal because customers are caught in a squeeze between Christmas present credit card bills coming due and not having received their tax refund yet.
But IMHO part of the slowness is also due to the negative changes in the economy, and this is NOT going to get better any time soon. While the "official" unemployment rate is 6%, the "real" unemployment rate (which includes people whose 39 weeks of unemployment are up + people who took part time jobs + people who took full time jobs that pay peanuts) is probably more like 25%. To make matters worse, some of the business segments hardest hit by layoffs were tech businesses, telecom businesses, insurance companies, bankers and stockbrokers, travelling businessmen - all of these were the mainstay of dance club customers two or three years ago. Guys who still have jobs have seen next to zero in the way of pay raises or cost of living adjustments, their bonuses cut or eliminated, their expense accounts tightened up severely, and they are now nervous that future layoffs may come in their direction as well.
While the "official" inflation rate is under 2%, the "real" inflation rate for things which every guy MUST pay for has gone up a lot. Gasoline/natural gas/heating oil, insurance premiums, property taxes, state income taxes, college tuitions - and anything imported from Europe or Japan (due to the declining US$ exchange rate), are all more expensive now. No pay raises or pay cuts, plus tightly watched business travel and expense accounts, plus having to spend more on life's necessities leaves less disposable income in the pockets of guys who still have their jobs.
Still more guys have driven themselves deeply in debt buying toys for the "good life" - i.e. maxxed out credit cards, large auto loan payments, major mortgage payments etc. Without an increasing income to cover these huge payments, these guys are in big financial trouble. Personal bankruptcies are at a record high. But even if it doesn't come to bankruptcy, making these payments on time takes a huge chunk of income.
Bottom line is that one of the first "frivolous" expenditures which can be cut out under these circumstances is guys no longer spending hundreds of dollars in dance clubs like they used to!





Wow, that describes me to a T. I was laid off from one job two years ago, had to take another job that paid less. I just got my first quarter bonus and it was a third less than my last bonus. I'm not alone either, I know many in the same situation. The discretional income I used to have is just not there, and yes girls that unfortunately trickles down to you.Guys who still have jobs have seen next to zero in the way of pay raises or cost of living adjustments, their bonuses cut or eliminated, their expense accounts tightened up severely, and they are now nervous that future layoffs may come in their direction as well.





Strip clubbin' has taken a toll on my finances, especially since becoming a regular at Divas in San Juan. Before Divas I had no clue as to what those VIP's were. Now I've splurged and it shows in my credit card bills. Thank God for clubs in western Puerto Rico. No VIP rooms and with all the action onstage there's little, if any, need to do private dances. So I can have a good time and save a buck or two
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it has been up and down recently here in southern texas but never to the extreme you have described. i keep into consideration that we are at war that puts a big dent in the economy, tax season wich puts a dent in customers wallets and the weather wich puts a big dent on ppl's car because they don't know how to drive in cold weather. keep smiling , don't lose hope its can't get any worse. i would also suggest traveling perhaps. or trying to find a normal job until things pick up so you don't feel all down when they do pick up.





Call me miss pessimistic, but for a fact in many areas it CAN get worse. We haven't even talked about potential dancing income killers from the "other side" of the equation. The first of these is of course a rising "sleaze factor", where Houston, Texas is a perfect example. When all of the dancers in a particular city are experiencing poor earnings at the same time, there will always be a certain amount of girls who are personally comfortable with the idea of using ultra high contact levels and even outright sex with customers as a tool to sell private dances which customers otherwise wouldn't buy. This of course helps the earnings of the "extras" girls, but hurts the earnings of girls who aren't offering the same contact levels. After a while, more and more girls start offering 'extras', the customers start to expect extras from every dancer in town, and girls who aren't offering the same contact levels find themselves at an extreme disadvantage where earnings potential is concerned.
The second of these "income killers" is anti-dance club crusading on the part of local governments and local cops. These can take the form of new ordinances which "outlaw" full nudity or contact or establish distance rules or otherwise take 3/4ths of the fun out of going to clubs, driving away some customers. If club and dancer busts start happening, this creates a fear factor among some club customers due to the possibility of police involvement/bad publicity, driving away even more customers. Even no smoking ordinances can have a negative effect on would-be club customers, who decide that they'd rather smoke and drink somewhere else. El Paso, Texas is a perfect example of this.
Remember the old proverb that "there's light at the end of the tunnel" ? Unfortunately, it just might be the light from an oncoming train!
Shan, I was at a club for over 2 years that our slow time was in hte summer..To where I could have walked out in tears everyday sometimes...
Winter time we cranked, as soon as it got warm outside, that was it, unless a regular came in for you, there was no money to be made.......
There is no better buzz then busting a nut.......
The Curve is more powerful then the sword .. Mae West
So you are suggesting I give "Extras" so i can make money...
I don't freaking think so.. If men want a cheep whore.. they can go to the inner city limits or down town area..*which is usually were they are located no?* and get one.
And if men try to get more then is allowed.. I fucking smack them one! I got enough shit to put up with If they dont like it.. they can go fuck themselfs....
But yeah Ive heard of the Houston strip girls doing that.. Fortunately enough for me.. i don't live in that shit for brains city..
Sorry girls.. Ive heard nothing but bad shit about that nasty place..
I work in a gentlemens club.. And it is exactly that..
Shan-
From what I understand from a few of your previous posts, you are new to dancing. It will take a little time, getting to know your customers (soon to be regulars), and it will pick up. The time of year DEFinitely has something to do with it!
Contrary to SOME people's beliefs, you do not have to "do extras" to make money - what a cheapshot farce - what I find interesting is that the girls that "do extras"(and are not caught - b/c if they are they are fired immediately) in our club, make less money than the girls that don't. Call it crazy - but it's true - at least in our club - and i've been there over a year. But besides that, I think it's really awful how customers will try to strongarm girls into doing extras - it's absolutely shameful. Using the "buyer's market" excuse , is probably the most shameful of all.
I also think that the more regulars you get - the more that will help. You haven't been working long enough, perhaps, to get regulars. Honestly, lately, 80% of my income is from regulars - or at least repeat customers, if not regulars - the other 20% is from tipping and new customers - if I didn't have those regulars, I'd be making a lot less!
Hang in there, baby!
Jax![]()
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Let's get off of this Houston tangent. I worked there for over a year and the stigmatization of clubs there is unneccessary. Every girl does not fuck and suck and the ones that do don't offer that service with every customer. don't be scared off from a place you've NEVER been by peoples comments. Every girl here could work in those clubs and be just fine. Most of the girls I've worked with are nice and the tipouts are really low with NO work schedules and NO day and night shifts. the problem there is those clubs were originally designed for big spending customers and as guys grew tired of blowing large amounts of money in the clubs girls resorted to other means to survive at times.
Keep in mind girls that guys all want sex with us. it does not matter what city you are in. There is no need to try to justify this business to yourselves by proving you're not whores. Face the fact that ALL GUYS PREFER SEX TO DANCES!!!! and since Houston clubs never pushed dances and ran 2/1's and were built on girls sitting and socializing with customers compared with El Paso clubs where the girls go table to table selling dances and never sitting with a guy unless he's bought several dances, coupled with the fact that Houstons clubs for the most part are the fanciest and plushest clubs in the entire United states, that every club has a boutique in it, and a full kitchen and valet parking and a shoeshine man and bathroom attendant, that that kind of setup requires big spenders to support it.
I worked in Houston in the early 90's when Treasures was called Baby O's and sex wasn't as prevalent. besides Rick's 3 Clubs who seem to only like white girls and customers don't like, Houston clubs have amongst the highest amount of non-white dancers working in upscale clubs in the United States.
Don't judge a place you've never worked in.
Shan, from a prior post you mentioned you were in Kansas City. I worked there a long time ago at Legs and Shadows until a new female major had them closed for a club scandal. The Legs I worked in is not the same one I was in. These were on the Kansas side. The money was really good and the clubs were always busy. i made $1300-$2000 EVERY week full time. Guys would have money in their shirt pockets and spend loosely.
After visiting that town last spring to sell shoes the clubs are really slow and dingy looking.
You should consider leaving the area to work. You are under 21 right? there are some clubs to the north of you in Iowa and Nebraska where you could book in or get hired in and work when you want with one weeks notice that I can tell you about if you are interested.





Shan, disregard those girls saying you will make $600-$800 a night in the summer. that is bullshit. in the summer season many guys take vacations with the family and clubs slow down.
A $600-$800 night is a hit and miss situation. the business has just gone down. you are in a club environment where $150- $200 is a good night and some nights you might not make payout or make under $100.
Many dancers have an $800 night once and talk about it as if it happens all the time. they won't tell you what they make every time they work. and make sure you ask them if their figures are AFTER payouts.
I had an $800 night in October and a $1000 night in March of last year. The other 250 days I worked weren't anywhere close.
I agree with you 100%. There are more and more girls doing the "extra's" for customers and they're ruining it for the girls who don't do those things. There ARE escort agencies for girls like that. The problem is the new girls come into the business and see these things going on so they're like "Okay, I guess that's what you have to do" and it's just a vicious cycle. Call me pessimistic as well, but I don't think the business is EVER going to be as good as it was 10 years ago. Strip clubs have had their heyday, Jenny Jones bought dancing to the mainstream and now everyone and their mother is a stripper- literally! 10 years ago it was a rarity to know someone who danced, now it's very common. This business is just going down down down. Girls, go to school, invest that money or start some sort of business online because it's not going to last forever!!!



yes honey it is a shitty month for sure
i myself havent been doing all that well
but rest assured by end of this month and next month it should be better![]()
blessed be
I've noticed that so many dancers like to tell people that the best night they ever had (or close) is what they make every night. The girl who does my nails was telling me that one of her other client "used to make $3000 a night but stopped coming to Reno when she only started making $1000 a night". Um, right. I will say that I switched to the club that this dancer was from and make considerably more money, but I somehow don't think I'm going to have a $3000 night anytime soon, especially with tax season on us.
Shan, hang in there. Every locale has its up season and down season and while you can get a good idea from the other dancers and the club employees when that usually is, you really have to see for youself. If I were you, I would take a peek at some other clubs as well to see if it is really a full on slump or if other clubs are still ok and something just happened where you are currently dancing. Economy and seasonal issues aside, sometimes there are things going on at levels you have no control over that affect the amount of business your club has. Use your business woman's instincts to see if it is just a period you need to get through or if you just need to move on.
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if you want to talk about this year's "average" earnings levels, every club I have been to recently I seem to keep hearing the same story ...
80% of dancers at 80% of the clubs are happy to be leaving the club with $200 at the end of the night - many are happy with much less
the other 20% of dancers at 80% of the clubs ( the '10's, the bombshells, those with something special going for them) are earning about twice this much
dancers at 20% of clubs (famous clubs, very upscale clubs) are doing even better, however these dancers ALL fall into the category of '10's or bombshells or girls with something special going for them).
all dancers who have been doing it for a while agree that this year's average earnings are significantly lower than what they used to earn 2 or 3 years ago in the same club (like HALF), with the exception of famous clubs and very upscale clubs where earnings haven't suffered as much.
Well for now im happy with leaving with enough money to cover gas.
Around here the house mom said that the summer time is the best time to make money because they get tons of bachlor parties...
But I love the place were i work.. they are very strict about costomers doing certian things. and they keep an eye on the girls.
However if it doesent lighten up.. i just might have to goto boozokas *which i heard has really mean and rude management + 100 $ tipout on a weekday :| * I hope they make good money with a tipout that high
*it goes up to 120 in the summer i believe* YUK! :o
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