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    Default Extras??

    I Put up this poll because of the interesting conversation about ASPD. I admit that I have performed "extras" for the right price and the right customer. I saw the risk as being acceptable according to the price of the "extra" I offered.

    By "extras" I mean offering waaaay more than is legally allowed by the club. In some clubs "extras" is flashing in others it is out and out sex. It just depends on where you are. I was just curious as to how everyone here feels personally about "extras".


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    Sorry Paris hun, nothing that is ilegal inside a club is worth "a risk" no matter how much money. But maybe the money would get one a good lawyer. Just my opinion along with my vote. Pamela

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    Nope, not in my comfort zone. However, I have absolutely nothing against girls who DO choose to give extras - PROVIDING that they're not doing it in a low/no contact club where I happen to be working at the time.

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    Even if some of the girls who visit this site do perform extras, I highly doubt they would come here and admit it. But judging from most of the posts I have read, most of the dancers who post to this site are anti-extra girls.

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    Yeah....I've thought about it.....

    I've only worked in topless clubs that were low/now contact and did NOT tolerate any foolishness. However, once I went WITH a g/f to her club that was also topless and was VERY high contact. I mean, the girls (in the private dance room) were nearly giving b/j's thru guys pants and the guys could touch anything not covered by cloth. Not EVERY girl there was into it -- some still made their customers keep their hands to themselves, but most of the girls were pretty high contact. I even saw one guy giving a girl a spanking! (you could look right into the room -- no door). I'm not making this s--t up!!!

    At first, I was totally shocked. Then I got morbidly curous about it. My g/f was into it, and I asked her how she felt and she said she didn't give it a second thought. It was just part of the biz. No biggie.

    Huh.... she was trying to get me to work there with her (I didn't want to for a whole LOT of reasons, even before I saw the high contact with my own eyes). I was really wondering how I would handle that if I did end up working there. I still don't know.

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    The last club I worked at more than half the girls were gorgeous and worked at this club for years. Then there was this older woman that got hired who was pretty although completely psycho. For a couple months she didnt bother anyone and then the club owner basically turned his back on every complaint the girls and I had about what she was doing in the VIP rooms. She would openly ADMIT to things. It began difficult making money because some of the older girls had to start doing this as well. I along with a couple other girls left as if your boss is literally telling you certain things are ok when they are very illegal and you cant make any real money like you did unless you do extras-please despite how nice they say the club is im sorry but thats just trashy.

    I however dont look down upon girls that do this though. If its what they want to do and they arent hurting anyone then fine. Although i think they should be working in another enviornment like escorting. Then at least you dont have to be around it letting it affect your money. Does that make sense?

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    Yes, I do. I have ever since I started dancing. I perform extras every single time I work without exception and I don't care how anyone else feels about it.
    Cuz ummmmmmmm...............guess what, state law says that i cannot come into contact with a customer period and that i must be a certain number of inches back from the customer. If the customer tips me I must take it in my hand or garder, but not even allow my hand to come into contact with his hand or i am in violation. I am not supposed to touch my breasts or anything between my neck and knees while i dance onstage or give a private. Also, my city is not nude, but ne1 thats worked old memphtenn probably has no idea of half of this shit.
    I do not get nude, only topless, BUT, newsflash, evry dancer in my state does extras.
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    I think you should have put an option up that says "I have performed extras...but would never admit it to anyone who doesn't already know".

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    Hey, Divyne,

    I worked in Memphis and I know that it's illegal to dance nude there - but all the clubs are nude anyways! I was there in 1997 ? when they were all raided and shut down for a couple of weeks.

    So, yeah, every girl in Memphis is doing extras just by being onstage. (Also there are extremely wild 2-girl shows onstage at the clubs there) Memphis is wild but the money is good.

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    I believe the term "EXTRA" needs better definition. Paris states that an "extra" is something beyond what is "legally allowed" by the Club, but Club rules are not always "Legal". Even "Laws" are not always applicable based on community standards which are the true deciding factor in any court case. This is why Memphis is the way it is. (I Know this for a fact) Club rules are almost always a balance of "Legal" vs "acceptable".

    What I consider "extras" from a legal (Federal Law) POV is Genital Insertion. That includes nipple to mouth (nipples are genitalia) as well as any tongue or finger to genital activity.

    This is not limited to "Lap" or "Table" dances. It applies to Stage dances as well. If you have ever sucked your own nipple or run your fingers through your crotch onstage you have done an extra in the strictest sense of the term.
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    I can't suck my own nipple but I can lick it. Does that count?

    Boy. I think that the ASPDers might have a different def. of an "extra," that being that it's an act that results in a guy coming, that isn't a lap dance. If I am wrong, correct me.

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    In the Customer definition of Extra, You're exactly right and that is the way it should be defined .....Morally. Of course ASPD (which is an offshoot of the old Alt. Sex-Prostitution newsgroup) has a different outlook on the matter since it is primarily an Escort site.

    Oral/genital stimulation, whether it is nipples or clits or cocks, is the same in legal terms so yeah ..... lick em at your own risk. This is under the heading "Lewd" behavior rather than prostution of course, but thats what the majority of charges are in typical Strip Club busts.

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    I guess I think in literal terms. To me, an extra is something outside of law or club rules. If the club states no grinding for more than a couple seconds, or no contact of nipple to face, or no touching the customer's groin with hands or face, and any or all of that happens, it's an "extra," because it's "extra" over what is allowed and what the customer can expect. But I'm a literal guy with the language.

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    The only extra I ever performed was to bite a guy's face while he called me princess, and I did that because I didn't have to take my clothes off. He was kind of a weirdo, come to think of it, but whatever. I'm not an "air dancer" but I'm not a contact dancer either; but you know, I've been out of it for a while. Like I will sit on a guy's knee, but not straddle his lap, and I will let him put his arm around me, but not feel me up, and I would drag my hair over his crotch, but not anything else and I will touch him, but not where it counts. I'm not 6 inches away, but I'm not hot and nasty either. This is primarily (although I know this goes against what we're meant to admit) for fear of getting caught and charged, because how in the name of god would I explain to my mother that I've been charged with prostitution? There's just no way. But I've been out of it for a while, so if I wanted to go back (and I do, but going back is harder than starting in the first place, has anyone noticed that? I think it's because I'm old) I might have to compromise that.

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    Dj_Wulf i would like to say a few clubs in lauderdale got shut down only because a girl was letting a man suck her breasts for one, and he paid more money to do so, and that was out of club rules. She got nailed for prostitution...not Lewd Behavoiur. I think alot of clubs would get popped for prostitution when a woman is performing an illegal activity inside the club. Blow jobs, tit sucking ect. For money, i have seen it time and time agin on the news. If only Lewd behavoiur....then what is prostitution then. Pamela

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    Pamela: The "Lewd behavior" was in response to Colettes question about sucking/licking her Own nipples which, of course, could not be considered prostitution but does illustrate that even some stage dance techniques are illegal. If it was a paying customer doing the "sucking" (oral/genital stimulation) then it could be considered prostitution whether on stage or in a lap/table dance. My Point here is that Club rules are meaningless and usually do not reflect actual Law. Inside or outside the Club is also meaningless as the illegal act is agreeing to accept money for "Sex" even if the "sex" does not take place (the con used by some dancers) or happens at another time/place.

    To answer your question by example.....It takes 2 people to engage in prostitution but only 1 person to engage in lewd behavior.

    There are some huge misconceptions about the legal issues concerning nude/topless dancing and one of the worst misconceptions is that Club Rules are within the limits of the Law. As illustrated in Memphis and other Cities, clearly they are not. Even worse is the fact that it is the dancers responsibility to know and remain within the actual Law (rather than Club Rules). Unless it can be proven that the Club Managment REQUIRED the dancer to violate the law the Club is safe from prosecution in most cases.
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    Yes i was speaking of two people doing the act in a club, illegal of course. That behaviour is prostituation with out a doubt, accepting money in exchange for sexual services. Thanks.
    It's funny you mention that, because outside the club (here) they really don't give a crap what happens as far as sexual acts. Inside a different story, then again we do have security with mikes talking back and forth all night. And alot of dancers see this, as do customers. Thats a step in the right direction!!!! Pamela~

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    I pick never. To me extras are prostitution including oral sex. Finger popping, kissing, things in that line.

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    can i chime in on this as i think i can define extras and i am preety much an expert on that
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    Define it cause I think people have different opinions when i comes to this topic.

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    When I used the term extra in this thread I left it very general as the definition changes depending on your location. I am in Oregon, and some clubs consider ANY dancer/customer contact an extra. That is the law. Dancers cannot touch themselves on their breast or nipple, and they are not permitted to even touch their own buttocks (defined by the law as any area covered by underwear briefs) during a performance. Try dancing for a guy without touching your own butt, it isn't easy to accomplish. Most clubs allow the dancers to touch their own butts and breasts, and will allow the dancers to touch the customer's shoulders head and face, and also any where from the knees down, so if you are talented you could almost sit on a guy's lap.

    Last week a few guys from Huston came into my club, and I chatted with them about the dances available from our club. Our "extras" girls are doing things like quick, light grinding, or maybe even allowing (gasp) a breast to briefly touch the customer's face :o This makes me giggle because the other girls in the club talk trash about the "dirty" girls, and that is why they make all the money.

    Sorry this is getting so long, just wanted to clarify that to every club there is a certain level of conduct that is accepted and there are those who go beyond that level on a regular basis. I was mostly thinking of behaviors that would get you in major trouble if performed for the wrong person.


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    Yes i was speaking of two people doing the act in a club, illegal of course. That behaviour is prostituation with out a doubt, accepting money in exchange for sexual services. Thanks.
    OK how's this for an actual example of a prostitution bust inside a club in Texas. Two girls are dancing on stage together - just dancing. A customer is sitting at the rail and is tipping. One dancer touches the other dancer's breast. BOOM both girls are busted for prostitution by undercover vice who happens to be in the club, and the charge sticks! Why? Both dancers were involved in what the state of Texas defines as "sexual contact" (i.e. touching an unclothed female nipple). Both girls received money in exchange for performing this "sexual contact" (i.e. the customer who was tipping them). Are they prostitutes ? The judge thought so, cuz he sentenced them to 12 days in the county lockup! Texas prostitution law does not state that the person paying the money has to be the person involved in the "sexual contact".

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    Wow so I guess Texas cant do lesbian shows or could they ???

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    Your typical friday night girl-on-girl show as done in a New York club (which for non-NYC girls, these are openly advertised in NYC newspapers and are 100% simulated!) would get every girl on stage busted for prostitution in Texas along with the clubowner for promoting prostitution!

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    Being a male member, I did not vote. But it is interesting that 44% have responded that they have. Is there anyway of knowing if these are female members of this site? Looking at all the post, it seems high. Just my opionion, but I hope that the male population isn't voting.

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