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    Well I sure am glad to see this topic! I have finally talked myself into getting new boobs, and I've been checking out doctors in my area, but I have a few questions....

    First, I'm in Puerto Rico, and although I'd like to check out some US doctors, I don't think it would be feasible for me to go that route. I have found a couple of good docs here, but they are VERY reluctant to do anything bigger than 350cc. (They are used to seeing Latinas who are far less concerned with large boobs because Puerto Rican men focus on booty.)

    Anyway, my main dilemma is whether to get just implants or whether to get a lift and implants. I am a 36C at age 29 with a little sag. I haven't had babies, and my boobs are not floppy, and they even look pretty nice as natural boobs go, but the doc says if I get the large implants I want without a lift, I will have to have them over the muscle, and because the bags are so heavy, it will cause them to sag more. He recommends I get a lift and have the implants placed under the muscle. He says he can give me a lift by cutting only around the nipple. I think no lift and over placement might look nice because they would have a more natural hang. What I want to know is if anyone has this type of experience? Will 500cc implants make them sag too much too soon? I don't mind a little hang because that looks more natural, but I don't want them dragging my navel next Christmas! Any suggestions?

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    Mikimoto most of the case that end up going bad are cause the doctor is not experience. If you want your breast done check if they are in the Plastic Surgeons Association you would see the 2 circles.

    Bridgette I'm going about 400 to 450cc.Due to having twins and breastfeeding my breast are saggy. I was thinking of getting it over cause I do pole tricks but the sagging factor is a con. So I have to do little more reseach to do or I'll just ask my doctor.

    Aggieed I wanna hear some stories.

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    i'm glad to see this topic as i can relate completely. i have a little frame too and naturally wear a 32C. i want a lift tho cuz they've always seemed droopy...
    i just want a little perk! i'm wishing the best results to anyone getting theirs done.
    another thought: i even held off dancing cuz i want em to be perfect but i was too critical. i'd have to dance if i ever want to get em done cuz my other job options could never afford it.

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    Yes, I have some "Before and After" shots at

    the top row pics are at 850 (left) and 1350cc (right) - McGhan teardrop adjustable implants

    the middle row pics are at 3000 (left) and 2250cc (right) - French custom made adjustable implants

    the bottom pics are my latest polypropylene string implants which are about 4000cc now. Built like a baseball which has lost its leather cover, my string implants keep growing all by themselves without having to go back to the doctor to have more saline injected as I did with my French custom and McGhan adjustable implants. Now all I have to worry about is that they'll stop growing eventually once my breast skin finishes stretching to match the string balls inside my breasts!

    No offense intended, but reading all this deliberation between 300cc versus 400cc versus 500cc makes me crack a smile. I realize the world looks different from an A or B cup point of view, but in the grand scheme of things 300 or 400 or 500cc implants all fall in the same category. None of these sizes is large enough or heavy enough to cause any sagging problems! And actually, if you have saggy breasts now, the larger the implants you get the more the skin will TIGHTEN UP! Also you can get some "artificial breast lift" effect by having your doctor overfill your implant bags 20-25% over their cc rating, which makes them a bit rounder and firmer than they would normally be.

    And just for reference, I'm 5'3" tall, I weigh about 120 pounds if you don't count the weight of my implants (my latest ones weigh about 9 pounds each), and I wear a 34 bra size. In comparison a 500cc implant weighs about one pound.

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    I experienced some pretty bad aftereffects of the anesthesia. I swear I felt homocidal. Seriously, I was very angry when I came to. I'm sure it was a combo of the oxycontin before surgery and the actual anesthesia in addition to the morphine I received afterwards. But I was in alot of pain and all I could do was shoot daggers at the recovery nurses.

    Also, about a week or so after the surgery I went through that "depression" (which I'm told is also an effect of the anesthesia) and I just bawled my eyes out and thought I should have just left my body alone.

    That only lasted a day though. Would I do it again? In a second!


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    What size did you go to may I ask. And do you like that size or want to be bigger or smaller

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    Oh my gosh Melonie, i have never thought a person could go that big without ripping the skin....Really. I have 38c boobs and i can see veins, you have them all over it looks like. I guess that is from the stretching of the skin?
    I give my opinion if i may. You are beautiful, .....they just looked better smaller on your frame to me. You are not a big girl. They just look out of proportion with the rest of your body. You love them thats all that matters. Your face is so beautiful. I always wondered why someone would go that big. And can you lay on your stomache? One day you will have to downsize...no?
    I love the first pic's of you. The last ones where a bit much for the eyes!!! And i mean that in a great way for you! You have lots of courage!
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    Well, from a personal standpoint, I'll agree with you that I think I looked better in general with 850cc or 1350cc implants. And yes you're correct that one of the first things I'll do when I "retire" is to trade in my implants for something smaller - probably F cups or so (since they're small enough to hide when doing routine things in public but still big enough to draw attention on the beach if I want to LOL). With the 4000cc implants I have now, there's just no way to make a trip through WalMart or to a restaurant, the doctor's office etc. without drawing some kind of unwanted attention. This is usually catty remarks from housewives, but can also involve guys following me out into the parking lot, guys asking me to show them my tits in the greeting card aisle, etc. That s#!t I can do without!

    But the major reason I got implants was to augment my income, not to augment my appearance from a personal preference standpoint. This is a key factor which dancers thinking of getting implants should keep in mind. While 300 or 400 or even 500cc implants might make a very positive change from a personal preference standpoint, in general they are not going to make the same kind of income increase that 850cc or 1350cc implants would in a dance club environment. This is exactly the reason that the IRS allows a deduction for implants over 1000cc but does not allow a deduction for implants less than 1000cc.

    I danced for a while with my first set of 500cc implants, and really didn't notice much difference in income because other girls in the club had breasts just as big. But when I got the McGhan 850 adjustables, I noticed a substantial income increase immediately and the more saline the doc put into them the higher my income climbed. In fact I developed a following of regulars who would come back to the club once a month to see how much I had "grown"! When my McGhan implants were totally full at 1350cc I probably hit my high point in regard to house dancer earning levels.

    Obviously, my decision to get the French custom implants and go big enough to make a serious attempt at featuring was totally motivated by potential income. However, increasing from 1350cc to the 2250 size when I first had the French implants put in actually hurt my earnings as a house dancer. I found myself in "no woman's land" being big enough to scare some guys in the clubs, but still too small to draw much attention as a feature. It wasn't until they were filled to the 3000cc ballpark that serious feature, magazine and website/webcam business started heading in my direction.

    I guess the point of all this is to try and communicate to dancers who are considering their first set of implants to keep in mind that A) all the implant sizes cost the same amount of money to have put in initially, B) all the implant sizes do NOT result in the same amount of income increase for a house dancer (if you're not the biggest in the club you're not earning the maximum), C) with the bad economy continuing dancers need every edge they can get, and D) it's totally possible to change to a smaller size implant when you retire from dancing (and the reduction surgery only costs about $3000 - compared to an extra $3000 or $6,000 or $10,000 or more per year in increased club earnings by getting the larger sized implants).

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    i totally disagree on the point that going from a a or b to a d or dd wont increase your earnings. in florida there arent many if any girls that are any bigger, now i know you may say well, that was my point exactally, but i have worked with girls in the past out of florida that had 1000cc implants and it was hit or miss for them. with most men thinking and by action(not getting dances) that they were to big. as you say scareing them off. one i thought looked good the other to big in my opinion. now for feature work sure why not, but for house dancing no way. i went from a b to a d or if im reading correctley a 480 implant is almost dd. with a great increase in earnings. which goes for everyone i know even if they only went to a c.
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    well, Velvet, you hit on the crux of the matter. If everybody in the club is an A or B cup, then D cups rule! However, if the club is in a different area and half the girls in the club have D cups already, then nobody is going to pay attention to yet another set of D cups. You're also correct that in certain areas 1000cc DDD cup boobs might seem scary big if the club customers are used to seeing A and B cups. On the other hand, if 1/2 the club already has D cups then it takes DDD cups to draw attention! If a girl is content to stay working in an area where A or B cups are the norm, then D cups make perfect sense. However, if a girl wants to take a shot at the big time in LA or Chicago or Vegas or Manhattan she needs to realize that D cups probably won't draw any extra attention.

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    Tini, I wear a 32 or 34 D (now I know a 34 C is supposed to equal a 32 D but the C cups just don't fit my boobs right.) If and when I get a redo, I will go to a big boob specialist and tell the doc I want DD or DDD's.

    Does anyone know what are the effects of going from unders to overs? (or vice versa) Mel......anyone........?


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    When I had my last surgery, the implants were taken out that were under the muscle and the new implants are over the muscle. For me, this caused a huge difference in appearance. No longer did I have rock-hard looking, down-pointing, too high boobs. Instead, I have really soft, natural looking 36DD's. They are in the right spot on my chest, my nipples point up (but slightly, no crazy-lloking nipple-above-the-implant boobs here). Except for the scar, which I cover with dermablend, they look natural. Also, contrary to popular belief, ripples are not prevented by going under the muscle. I had massive rippling in my under the muscle implants and NONE in my over the muscle implants.

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    I going a large D close DD :o

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    I had mine done in June of 2000 and it was the best thing I have ever done!!!

    I was not dancing then but I had gotten down to about 10% bodyfat and had nothing left up top.(And I was not very big to begin with!) So I decided to have it done.

    I went from a 34A (being generous) to a 34D without any problems. Mine are on top of the muscle so the day after the surgery I was fine. I was back in the gym doing cardio in 3 days. My doctor went in through the nipple and you can't even see a scar.

    I have felt so much better about my since having this done and especially since I started dancing for the first time in November.

    Best Advice: Don't smoke 2 weeks prior, stop taking Vitamin E supplements, drink lots of water, cold packs to reduce swelling and follow all of your doctor's advice!

    Best of luck to you, I don't think you will regret it!!

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    I've had both over and under the muscle placement, and I totally agree that over the muscle is the only way to go for dancers. The only real concern with over the muscle implants is that if the implant bags aren't filled very much such that the bags have wrinkles, that the wrinkles will be visible through your breast skin. This is easily cured by overfilling the implant bags to minimize wrinkling.

    On the other hand, under the muscle implants wind up having the layer of pectoral muscle over the top of them press down unevenly every time you use your pectoral muscle. Not only does this create greater pressure on the implant, but it can also push the implants sideways or distort their shape. The extra surgical procedure to peel back a thin layer of pectoral muscle causes more post-op pain (which may continue for a long time), and can weaken your upper body strength. Also, for girls with low body fat percentages, the layer of muscle over the implants can actually create a "rippled look", particularly when laying on your back or when your pecs are flexed such as when doing pole work.

    The main "selling point" for under the muscle implants appeals to housewives, in that if a girl is not in great physical shape they tend to avoid sagging longer. But this "selling point" really doesn't apply to dancers. The other selling point is that under the muscle implants are supposedly better protected by the layer of muscle such that for a housewive they'll last 20 years instead of 10 years. Again this really doesn't apply to dancers, since our constant flexing of the pec muscles takes a heavy toll on under the muscle implants.

    For a dancer, you should probably figure on needing to have your implants replaced after 7-10 years to avoid waking up with a "flat tire" one morning. This usually works out very well with the average "dancing career", after which many girls opt to change back to a smaller size upon retirement.

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    i have under the muscle and mine arent distorted or pointy or lumpy or any of what is discribed above. they are beautifull natural looking implants. now i used to never want under because it used to be as you guys discribed. but now i prefer the girls with unders, the overs ALWAYS have ripples. most people think mine are real. it all goes back to the talent of the surgeon imo. not to mention the long lasting bonus! almost everyone i know has under the muscle now and they are outstanding!
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    I am getting my breast done in a week and a half. I'm confused now. You've made very good points. But also different points. I dont want to have ripples. But I also want my breast to look as natural as they can be. ???

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    Well, Tini, the type of implants with the least likelihood of ripples and the highest correlation to natural breasts, without a doubt, are SILICONE ! They cost about $1000 extra, but the natural look and feel of silicone implants is beyond dispute. The USFDA has also finally conceded that Silicone implants do not pose any additional health risk compared to saline implants, despite all the lawsuits and media hype of a few years ago. Also, one more fact about silicone versus saline is that saline filled implant bags are constantly being abraded by the roughness of the salt water, while silicone gel filled implant bags don't have anywhere near the same degree of abrasion as the silicone acts as a lubricant when the implant bag touches on itself. This means that silicone implants should last 15-20 years compared to 7-10 years for saline. Also, the actual implant material touching your breast tissue is a silicone rubber implant bag in both cases! Also, silicone gel is lighter than saline solution, meaning that a 500cc silicone implant weighs about the same as a 400cc saline implant.

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    Velvet-
    Over the muscle implants don't ALWAYS have ripples. Trust me, mine don't have a single one. Maybe it's because I got silicone this time, but there are absolutely no ripples in my implants.

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    TiNi, everyones body is different. Surgeons are different, not filling enough i read and so on. I don't have answers about implants because i don't have them. But may i add the best results come from communication with your surgeon since he/she will be performing the surgery. And after surgery if something does not look right have it corrected. It's about your body and surgeon, and how the procedure is done. The ladies here give exellent advice, i have learned alot about implants here!!. But you may very well be happy the first time around. Don't get scared or confused. Talk ALOT before surgery with your doc. Hope this helps. Pamela, counting the days with ya!

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    Thank you Pamela

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    Good Luck to you TiNi! I was freaked out too, actually kept flaking on my date for over a year! I LUV my surgeon that I eventually went with. Keep in mind you will have a long relationship with your surgeon so they need to have a good repoire. They should never rush you and encourage instead of getting insulted by your questions. I investigated tons of surgeons and found a lot of them very arrogant and egotistical. Your body will be forever changed so you should ask questions.

    I went under the muscle because they tend to look more natural which was important for me. Over the muscle can more easily show rippling and makes mamograms a lot more difficult. Whether to go over or under the muscle depends on the person/body-type as well as type of implants, anatomical, smooth round, textured, silicone ( which is perfectly fine) ect...

    I also did not use general anathesesia but local with sedation. This is what oral surgeons use for wisdom teethe extraction. I am so glad because in talking with other dancers they all said one of the worst parts was recovering from the anathesesia. I woke up put my shirt on, tied my shoe's, opened the door (which wasn't heavy) and walked out feeling fine. The discomfort (not pain and I am a baby) set in the next day when the swelling started because the local wore off.

    I had not one bruise on my breast the whole time! I even took pictures because I knew no one would believe me. I took off about 6 weeks with no dancing, no driving for at least three, plus I was in school at the time so my friends had to carry my books. The less you use your pectoral muscles the less likely you are to develop scar tissue which can make your breasts hard.

    To be honest it was not at all as bad as I expected. Since I am small framed I was worried about having too big of a space between my breasts, this can happen if you don't go big enough. My implants are saline smooth round, larger in diameter than projection. Over filling the implants creates less, if not no rippling. Mine are 325 cc's over filled to 355 cc's in one and 360 cc's in the other. Most women's breast are not exactly symmetric, especially if you do pole work and are right handed, the right breast will be slightly (not noticeably) larger than the other so I had my surgeon compensate for this. I also continue to do pole work now as well. Your pectoral muscles only put pressure on the the implant if your implants are enormous, however if you don't go too big the implant moves and jiggles within the pocket created for it and is not ever lumpy or distorted. I am 5'3 and 115 lb.s, I wanted to look very natural and I was very worried about looking fat if I went too big because I am somewhat petite. They are a year and a half old and I love them. They are very jiggly, lay low "dropped" on my chest, have no rippling even when I bend over, not to mention NO Scars! I went to a micro surgeon so the incisions was the width of a pinky nail. The reason why I had no bruising is because the tissue was treated very delicately, no wrenching or pushing (like TV,scary). Bruising is also caused when you are allowed to bleed too long internally, I was treated delicately and barley had a chance to bleed at all. I lost no nipple sensation what so ever, it even increased and I was all ready very sensitive before. I also can still breast feed! Yes, I mean it, I lost not one milk duct.

    I was so scared right up until the end, I never have had children or experienced stitches of any kind except wisdom teethe extraction. My Surgeon grabbed my hand, sat next to me and told me he would hold my hand until I fell asleep. That was the last thing I could remember.

    He is one of two Doctor's in the US that performs this type of surgery, he also was awarded AOA research award; one of only five medical students in the nation to receive this distinction, for his development. He went on to first become a micro surgeon working on the tiny bones and nerves in the hands and then went into cosmetic surgery. He is extremely well educated and knowledgeable, not unaffordable and importantly has an awesome bed side manner.

    Everyone's bodies, breasts and goals are different, thus a surgeon can't do the same thing on each patient. Therefore, there can't be just one way that works and is best for everyone. Also, someone's cc's and what cup it made them is totally different than the same type of implant, cc's on someone else. It all depends on your body and frame. Cup sizes vary from manufacturer and are a very inaccurate way to size the breast. I suggest trying on implants and putting your shirt on and checking yourself out in the mirror. Most surgeons provide a way to do this. This way you can better estimate what you will look like and better accuratley decide a size that YOU like. Lastly, I know dancers (who by the way are the largest group who get implants, not housewives) that have had sagging problems with 300 cc's! It depends on the individual, elasticity, whether or not they had kids, breast feeding ect...I have even seen girls ( some dancers and some not) whose booties already sag, age not a factor! No one that I go to school with has ever detected my implants, customers don't believe me and dancers rarely detect them. I have heard that textured implants are good for women with saggy breasts. Also the maximum breast size in the Club does not make the most money, really. The quality and experience of the surgeon makes all difference on how you look, how you recover, and how you will be maintained. Look at what you got at stake here!


    Good Luck TiNI, and sounds like you did good research so I am sure you will be fine. Let us know how you are doing! For anyone interested my surgeon's name is Dr. Leonard Gray in San Francisco


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    Thanx dangerousdiva I am going to ask my doctor about local anathesesia.

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    Wow! Thank you DangerousDiva for the story of your experience and your Dr.s name. I was reading that and hoping that he'd be close enough for a consult and lo and behold he's a couple hours away!
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    For anyone interested here is Dr. Gray's web sight
    www.bayareaplasticsurgery.com

    Also, he will palace implants under or over the muscle, depending on your situation, as well as all types of implants, including silicone ( he uses the best incision method for pre filled implants, no huge scars!) and all types of incisions, however, he will usually perform the incision method that he developed if it works for you and the circumstances of your surgery. He is really awesome and the incision method is the best and least invasive that I have ever seen, leaving NO Scars! Good Luck to anyone interested and Happy New Year!


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