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    Hola,
    I never danced nude before but Ive been thinking about it. What s the difference between nude dancing and topless dancing? Is it uncomfortable? Can you catch any diseases from being fully nude? Has anyone ever tried to touch you where they shouldnt in a nude couch dance? Is the money that you can make dancing nude different than topless? What do you do when you have your period?

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    Wow, so many questions I guess I'll start at the top. I usually make more money dancing topless, than nude.Why? Because Nude dancing usually means working in a juice bar, or very little contact between dancer and customer. Alcohol service means that the youngest customer in the bar is 21, and it isn't just a bunch of high school guys scraping together their birthday money to go check out the naked girls.

    Nude dancing in a bar with alcohol service is okay and can be good money, but generally means that there is little or no contact with the customer during private dances. This doesn't mean that the money is horrible, just that it is hard to get the customer to purchase more than one or two dances in a row, without any stimulation besides having a fully nude girl inches away from him.

    I have never been uncomfortable dancing nude. I danced nude at the very first club I worked at, and never had a problem with it. I'm sure some people are uncomfortable with nude dancing, I'm just not one of them.

    You can catch the same diseases from dancing fully nude as you would dancing topless. I have never seen a girl rubbing her bare crotch on any part of the stage or pole. This is counter productive to earning money, because if a girl does rub her bare crotch on something there is no way a guy can see what is between her legs, and therefore she will earn less money. Besides it is gross to think about touching the pole after some chick has slid her bare crotch down it. It is really just professional courtesy to not perform in this manner. There are plenty of ways to give a great pole show without genital contact.

    Just like in any couch dance some guys will try to touch you. You must just be on alert to the guys who are going to try something, and take measures to not let them violate you.

    When dancing nude on your period, simply cut the string on your tampon before using it. Removal can be kind of gross, but it really is no big deal.

    I hope this helps in your decision.


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    Default Re: Nude Versus Topless

    In my area of the country (NorthEast), the opposite is true - topless clubs are allowed to serve alcohol but are supposed to observe a distance rule and zero contact by law. On the other hand, nude clubs are legally allowed to have contact in most areas. This generally places the topless club emphasis on appearance, and the nude club emphasis on contact. Nude dancers have a much higher earning potential than topless dancers in my area, provided that they are willing to provide the contact nude club customers are seeking. One similar trait though is that the nude clubs have an age minimum of 18 versus 21 in topless alcohol clubs, which draws lots of young guys with high testosterone levels and low bank balances to nude clubs.

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    I have only danced nude because in my experience that is where I there was little to absolutely no contact. I agree with Melonie this could be due to demographics, my area of the country being California (West Coast). However, I have danced all over the country in nude clubs as well, I prefer this and always investigate clubs contact levels before I start.

    I used to think that higher contact was in the Topless clubs because they could be more lax on rules since dancers completely nude, however, I know see this is all relative to city ordinances. I have always been able to find upscale club's that were nude with ABSOLUTELY no grinding lap dancing and little or NO contact whatsoever. On the other hand, I am sure that there is Topless club's that provide this environment as well. Also Melonie is correct that in higher contact clubs the appearance of dancers tended to be less than average. However, in the nude clubs I have worked in most of the girls were 8's and up, rarely anything less. After all when you are fully nude you are showing everything so less than average girls won't get hired. Especially in clubs that are no contact because you have to use more of your appearance and personality to create the illusion of intimacy.

    Customers of nude clubs get drunk before they come in and sober up with red bull or coffee till closing. Nude clubs can stay open later because they don't serve alcohol, so they also benefit from a awesome 2am rush. I found, since customers can't drink while in the club they tend to be less rowdy, although at times I do miss some of the enthusiasm that bar customers can provide, I also enjoy a calmer environment. Most importantly, I prefer dancing nude because customers have really only one thing to indulge in, TABLE DANCES with me, nude dancers don't have to compete with Alcohol as much in order to make money. I have felt that Bars attracted more customers who come to "hang with guys" and see a side show and never wanted to even acknowledge us if we would attempt to socialize. This drove me absolutely crazy and is why I also only dance nude. Customers who frequent nude clubs, in my experience are there for one thing and one thing only (Girls!) are not as interested in hanging out for hours and barely, if ever dropping a dollar on a girl. I do know this is not the case everywhere so it comes down to if you are comfortable... do it! I don't care who sees me nude as long as no one is allowed to touch me.
    However dancing nude does require lots of attention to your bikini line, not just shaving but making sure no razor burn ect...and yes, we all dance on our periods, just cut the string. Hope this helps, just really investigate the club you are interested in, shouldn't really matter if it is Topless or Nude, just the contact level and the earning potential. Good Luck!


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    Default Re: Nude Versus Topless

    Nude vs. topless can be either more or less lucrative, depending on the area, local laws and attitudes of the customers, and your own comfort level. If you're not totally comfortable showing your pussy all night long to every Joe who wants to examine it, you won't make much money in a nude club no matter how busy the place is. However, if you don't mind the full exposure, look at the clubs in your area, what the customers are like, what the business aspect looks like, and go from there. You have to find a club that fits your level of comfort with nudity, contact, etc, and one that will provide the maximum profit potential while allowing you to operate comfortably. Topless vs. Nude is only the first step in choosing - there are many other factors that go with that. But if you're not fully comfortable with going fully nude in the first place, you shouldn't even consider nude clubs. I am one who is not comfortable with full nudity at work, and I don't do well in nude clubs.

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    Again, it depends on where you work. A nude club is really no big deal. To be an effective, dancer you need to be flexible.

    When you go on stage in any club, topless or nude, the first set is done fully clothed and usually your last song is topless or nude. and many nude clubs only allow topless table or lap dances, only some have nude lap dances available, at a higher cost.

    Everyone has seen a naked body. Once you get used to being on stage awhile, you will be dropping your bottoms on your last song without giving it any thought.

    The more we think about something instead of just doing it, the more we hold ourselves back.

    And in most nude clubs with the exception of San Francisco,and Platinum Plus in Memphis, bouncers have a close eye on what goes on during nude lap dances .

    I personally don't like nude juice bars with a few exceptions because they do less volume on average and most attract guys under 21 who don't spend much money, and the cost to work at them is usually higher than clubs that have a full bar to generate income off of. Plus I am in my 30's and juice bars attract a larger percentage of young dancers and very few over 30. I like to work in a club with dancers of all ages.

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    I love topless, i dance nude every now and again at one club. My comfort level is not great nude, because i think i have a big ass. Topless just makes me feel better. And i am much more productive being comfortable! It depends how you feel about yourself, and your own comfort level. Pluss the topless club is much more lucrative in my area. And i do stage dances so i really depend on the 'class of the club,' to draw in the older customers. Yea i bring in more bucks topless on stage, being a naughty girl!!! Pamela

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    The thing I love about dancing nude is that it's more about the show. I find that in topless clubs guys are more interested in what they can do rather than what you're doing, but in a nude club, they are much more interested in looking at you.

    That being said, I don't have a problem with either type of club. I have earned better money dancing nude than topless but I think this is due more to my high comfort level - I think that in TX you can earn pretty much the same dancing topless or nude. This is something that will depend entirely on your location.

    "Can you catch any diseases from being fully nude?"

    I hope not, considering all of the time I spend nude (in bed, in the bath, doing housework) . No, the possibility of picking up germs will not be higher unless you and the other girls go out of your way to rub yourselves against the same surface.

    As far as that time of the month, I love the Instead cup - it's like a little cervical cap with a reservoir. No string to worry about. When using a tampon I just tuck, tuck tuck and am extra vigilant with the baby wipes.

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    Don't sell yourself short, some customers prefer topless rather than totally nude. Also, some customers prefer a nice voluptuous back side rathe than the typical skinny. There are all sorts of tastes.


    Either way, best of luck, it's all about the Benjamins.

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    The reaason that topless, no contact clubs are rare is because there is no money there. I'd rather go to a beach. At least I might make a friend there, and there is more sun. Rarely I make (temporary) friend in a strip club; not bad when that happens. Then they leave.

    Guys spend money to see nude gals, or at least tits (may be enough if they are young), and/or have some degree of contact beyond touchless fantasy.

    But certain puritannical places on this planet do not allow that. I don't go there. But that is just me.
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    I loved going to strip clubs; I actually made some friends there. Now things are different for the clubs and for me. As a result I am not as happy.

    Customers are not entitled to grope, disrespect, or rob strippers. This is their job, not their hobby, and they all need income. Clubs are not just some erotic show for guys to view while drinking.

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    I prefer topless. Being nude makes you that much more at risk from the handsy guys. There is nothing worse than a custy forcing a body part IN you. On you is bad enough but sometimes during nude laps a guy will go too far. I like my g-string, it's one more layer of protection in my book.

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    Has anyone had experience with any combination type clubs... that is where there is a topless
    side with alcohol and a nude juice-only side? What are the economics there? Personally, I
    would prefer a non-alcohol topless environment, but there are too many other places for
    customers to go instead. Alcohol brings more rules (what alcohol has to do with nudity I don't
    understand) and worse customer behaviour and distraction. Unfortunately, that's where the
    money is. But by all means, keep the club 21 and over so we have customers that will spend
    money. Isn't it ironic when a club will allow dancers to be under 21, but not customers?
    I once visited a bikini-only club (due to the failure to get a liquor license)... the girls did fine
    because there wasn't any other club competition anywhere nearby.

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    I've danced nude and topless on stage, and the only place I've ever done nude dances was in London, since when I was there zero contact was allowed during dances and that was strictly enforced.

    I've made the most money at topless bars, and yes, I have seen girls put their pussy (or ass) right on the pole at nude clubs.
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    From a male dancer's perspective. I've danced fully nude plenty of times.
    Actually, I just got a job at a fully nude club in Canada. Men have a little more to think about than women. If you have stage fright, you get shrinkage.
    Women in nude clubs and parties want to see the dancer hard. You either have to work your self up before hand and rubber band it off, or use viagra. I prefer g-string, cause it's MUCH less effort for a male dancer. Besides, when it's a nude show, women get REALLY grabby. It can leave you sore for a couple days. The place in Canada is no touching.

    My opinion is that yes, you can get diseases from nude dancing. Pretty much anywhere that you will make contact where another nude dancer just touched, after touching themselves, then you touch and touch yourself, runs risks. My advice; don't touch yourself while dancing nude.


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    Interesting post.
    Funny thing is that I have just come back from "trying" out a nude club. I have danced topless for the last 7 months or so. I lasted one stage show, and couldnt continue.
    I dont think that there is anything wrong at all with nude dancing, I even wish I could! Earnings especially in Cali are much better when you work nude. As mentioned above, I believe it is what you are confortable with. I make decent money, nothing great but I would do much much worse dancing nude strictly due to my own comfort level.

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    i dance nude and there is absolutely no difference. i just hate it when guys all always yelling 'show me your pussy' or 'let me see your pink'. god i hate that shit. when your on your period you cut the string of a tampon all the way to the end and put it back in the aplicator. and voila! no mouse tails!
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