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    Hi folks...

    I am a newbie writing to you from the customer perspective. I am a 32 yr old male who really enjoys the strip club experience for the "Fantasy" element. I range from going wanting to just be surrounded by gorgeous practically nude women, to yes, high contact with extras.

    I wanted to present a perspective that may or may not be relevant and see what you think. You see, I don't see a problem with "high contact" or extras. I also don't see a problem with low contact or air/pole dancing. It's all a part of the experience and since from reading many posts on the topic, there are so many different tastes that the men have, and so many different perspectives on what "high contact" etc...really is, why not have women of all different types of specialties or degrees of willingness and just cater to the vast amount of different tastes that men have?

    Like I said, I go into a club for so many different reasons. The escape from reality is a big one. I DO like talking with the girls if it seems like the conversation is real and not a means to a buck being earned, although I understand this is the bottom line nature of the business. Personally, Orlando sucks for clubs if you ask me. The no contact thing is a joke.

    I have been to Deja Vu in Tampa, but as much as loved being grinded to "completion", A.) it was WAY overpriced, and B.) There was no middle ground. You either got to see a girl at a pole, or payed big bucks for a dry hump with cameras watching. This really kills the fantasy aspect for me. In my fantasies, there aren't cameras and the girls don't drop the act and become a robot once the deal is sealed.

    I have been to Cheetah III in Pompano and this was my favorite experience so far. Well, actually the second time was, the first time a girl came up and asked me to buy her a drink(don't EVER do that) then split and made me wait forever. I was working on a cruise ship at the time and had a serious crunch for time. She never came back and waisted my time. I never even got more than her on my lap for long enough to get me to buy the drink.

    The second time was WAY different. I went alone (inset evil grin here) and I walked through to discover a beautiful angel at one of the non-mainstage poles that had a small cocktail table by it. Well I watched her while ordering a drink for myself, tipped her occasionally making eye contact and just being swept away from any problems into a world of fantasy that you not believe. She sat down and we immediately clicked. She was so sincere and friendly that I knew I wanted to get a real dance from her. I like going from table to table lap to friction and so on to prolong the evening and deliberately delay the pay off. I love the build up. Well she suggested forgoing the table dance because the contact would be limited and that she could give a much better dance in the friction room. (Twist my arm!!)

    So I did...I sat down, she took off her top and began the dance...without divugling details, I asked what the rules were and she said "There are none". WOW...If that's not straight out of my fantasy, I don't know what is. I ended up having an amazing time and yes, spending a lot of money. But the thing is, even on a budget, hell, especially on a budget, it was worthe EVERY PENNY to me.

    You see, she kept the fantasy going throughout no matter what pretenses were lifted and realities of the moment were exposed. I say, no matter what the pay off is when a customer is with you, it should be the best ever. That should be your goal. The best air dance ever. Never let em leave thinking they got ripped off or blew their money with regrets. Have them leaving like I did, fantasizing these two years later about my next experience.

    So the high contact and extras aren't your thing, so? I have read many posts where the guys have said it's not their thing either, in fact, I know most of my guy friends wouldn't do more than let you grind a bit.

    So you cater to them and let the ones who are willing cater the ones who desire it, know?

    The last thing I want to do is offend or upset a girl. That's why I ask what the rules are. It is a fine line legally but, maybe the "ask the waitress" suggestion IS a good idea. I just feel like a perv asking, and expect a slap i nthe face. You see, that's reality, not fantasy. I know what I am doing and what people think...oh well..that's why I go to clubs or other places for it.

    No customer or dancer should ever feel guilty for what they do in there. It's a choice made by two consenting adults. Doing that, shouldn't kill the good clubs, it should just add to what the clubs have to offer. Most men do not want that or feel embarrased asking.

    The last point is this...if you do give high contact lap dances do it full out like you love it and keep the fantasy going. NEVER become a business woman or a robot or you lose.

    If you do the extras...and it sounds silly...damn it, give the best HJ or BJ or FS EVER. Be the best. Look, you are choosing to do this so DO IT and do it well. And KEEP the fantasy going throughout. Be sincere and be the fantasy girl.


    Now for you low contact girls..cool! Be who you are and never compromise your standards. Just don't judge because technically, the rest of the world thinks we're all sickos for being there, remember?

    Do your thing to the Nth degree as well. You even more so have the psychological game to master. Your personality and believeability is SO crucial. You want them leaving satisfied mentally and thinking that they are truly not sure whether you would have come home with them and had sex. You should be THAT convincing.

    You are selling the fantasy ladies. Sadly, I thank God you are there. You do such a crucial service for so many men, women, and couples that the rest of world is just oblivious or too uptight to acknowledge. Thank you.

    One last thing..I read about Ybor in Tampa having clubs with high contact and extras and ones in West Palm, daytona, etc...that do too...Which are they?

    This would really help, because Deja Vu..? A total rip off to me. I will never go back there. Sounds like Mons is the same thing. That's too bad, it used to have the rep for being a place to get anything you wanted.

    Here's hoping that I haven't offended....

    BL


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    You might want to try pink pony or the other smaller not so well known places,ybor strip,seven seas, those all sound like they might be up your alley.

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    Gee....Maybe next time ask management what the rules are. Me being the only touch my knees down and hair kinda dancer it's tough to read this thread, but i did.

    Keep in mind some dancers will let you go farther than allowed for money. I would hate to hear about a bust, or you getting thrown out.

    You seem to like alot of contact in clubs. My area of Florida is low to no at times i see medium, and that is NOT allowed.

    South florida is wide open, i came up from there. The club i worked was no contact however.

    Are you looking for a dancer that would like to go homw with you as well ? just asking. Or do you want all tis activity to stay inside the clubs ? Just grinding to orgasm perhaps ? Hj maybe ?

    I am not sure what you want, except high contact, and someone who is going to go all out with it for you. BUt you have to remember the best dancers are business women, not all out do what you wish dancers. We don't want to go to jail. There are rules, and at times many that are broken.

    Hmmm, that is something alot of dancers strive for to clean up the clubs they dance in. Safe, legal and fun! But, we have money on our minds, it's a job!!!!

    Being no contact, i could not see it. It's harsh to say spend some money with an escort, but then you can have grinding and "extras" without sex with no risk of getting her fired or you both busted.

    Good luck with your ventures,

    PS no offence taken, but i was i business woman, or i would not have been there. Put on that happy face, and worked it. Seriously. Times you don't want to get out of bed. Or just throw in the towel.
    Pamela

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    Especilly pink pony in tampa. it's known as a striaght up brothel. south fla is wide open as well.
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    Wow, that post just reminded me of the very reason I can't stand working in SoFL. How many times do I have to hear this whole "I want to get my moneys worth" line of crap from customers? Strip clubs are a luxury, not a god given right to every Tom, Dick, and Harry that wants to rub some titties for the price of a happy meal. If I wanted to give guys "HJ"s, "BJ"s, ect. for chump change, I'd be a low rent hooker.

    P.S. girls, that is the typical customer mentality in Miami, Ft. Lauderdale in case you are wondering what the clubs are like.
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    . girls, that is the typical customer mentality in Miami, Ft. Lauderdale in case you are wondering what the clubs are like.
    Yep how true :-/

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    I hope to god you are not married mister. It is your kind of attitude that makes wives not comfortable with their husbands going to strip clubs and no wonder!

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    Whoa!!! I worked Pure Platinum for a long time! The customers i had where regulars, and they highly respected the fact that Pure Platinum is a NO contact club. I did pay a visit, as i posted earlier (a week or 2 ago) and there was NO contact going on in the VIP or Ld grinds. I even got the tour (i no longer work there, i more north fl. now,) of the cameras that are new and located just about all over the VIP, hall name it. But not on stage. THey had a nice large crowd too!

    I have been to many clubs in Miami, and they are an open road for some dancers. Still some did nothing much but hang together, or do a stage dance. The ld's are grind, nude from alot of dancers, they play wit their boobs, and some customer was fondling one dancers boob, but no fingers in vagina did i ever see.

    I know this happens, it happens in most clubs, but South beach they are more open, and high contact. Btw, this is not allowed. A dancer can touch her boobs, that seems to be as far as they allow this activity, anything else is against the rules, Miami clubs just don't seem to enforce this.

    I know there is one Miami club owner who lurks around here, so i do not speak of all the clubs allowing this.
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    You say you have no problem with "extras" but you don't have to spend much time on this board to find stories of girls being hauled off to jail because of what other girls were doing in the club. If you have no problem with extras, take up the cause to legalize prostitution, don't go looking for them in strip clubs.

    What you describe is a perfect world where a girl decides what level of contact and/or extras she's comfortable with. That's not reality. The reality is a lot of times girls come into the club at the end of the month with the rent due willing to do "anything" to make some money. Usually this is due either to drug use, a bad boyfriend/husband situation, or just plain stupidity/immaturity. There are men who make it a point to visit the clubs around the end of the month specifically looking for these types of girls. So in desperation, she gives a guy a BJ in VIP for some quick cash. He tells his friends and before you know it, every customer expects that from every girl. If this continues, the girls that aren't comfortable doing that find it hard or impossible to make a living. So a few girls that are irresponsible and engage in illegal acts make it harder on all the rest. That's not right and that's not anything like the situation you describe.

    I wasn't offended by your post and I hope you don't think this is a flame. I just wanted to say that the reality is far from your fantasy.
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    Word. Dancing in S FL sucks.
    THE MEN ARE ALL THE SAME YOU DON`T LOOK AT THEIR FACES AND YOU DON`T ASK THEIR NAMES YOU DON`T THINK OF THEM AS HUMAN YOU DON`T THINK OF THEM AT ALL YOU keep ur mind on the money and eyes on the wall

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    Dancing in south Florida may be bad for some. I made excellent money! Lauderdale was beautiful. Miami was wild. You do NOT have to do contact, if you have looks, and the image a man wants, you have it made. Dancing in S. Florida is not easy, and alot of dancers fail, or end up at a sleaze club. There are nice clubs there. It's wide open for contact. Some dancers who know the ropes and have been around can get by with good money without the contact.

    Get customers to like you! Be nice! Compete without extras! It is tough, and you better know how to hustle, and be HOT! But it's do-able. I hit so many clubs when i lived in Lauderdale, sure high mileage in alot of S. florida clubs, But i have seen dancers do fantastic stage shows that brought in money they where happy with. Believe it or not there are men who don't want high contact, and don't wish to travel far to find it.

    I was one. NO CONTACT dancer.
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    It doesnt suck at all! Lauderdale is beautiful Pamela you are right, i cannot beleive how much money is out there , i work at topless and there s just soooo much money and if i want a customer not to touch me anywhere he wont , thats the way it is, and I STILLLLLLLLLL make money.

    Anyways am glad i am not in one of those clubs where you HAve to do something...But there is one gurl at our club always makes more than anybody else, she is never even on stage but she gets money and she told me, there is no money without extras"HONEY". I mean reaaal money , and i just smiled because its not even about that REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL money.

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    sexy - where do you work?
    THE MEN ARE ALL THE SAME YOU DON`T LOOK AT THEIR FACES AND YOU DON`T ASK THEIR NAMES YOU DON`T THINK OF THEM AS HUMAN YOU DON`T THINK OF THEM AT ALL YOU keep ur mind on the money and eyes on the wall

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    Mister bootyholic there's a difference between a dancer and a prostitute. The dancer sells a fantasy wich are thoughts not actions; the prostitute is the one who sells her body, the one who can give you the HJ, BJ and so for. The thing is that prostitutes are normally more expensive than a $20 dance from a dancer and that's why there's people like you trying to get everything for $20. Please do yourself a favor and get a girlfriend or a wife(if you don't have one already).

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    this is the very reason that I wish more states has liberal morality laws. I will admit that I have gotten extras before, but usually it is the girl that asks..... I have no expectations about getting anything else in a club besides that.

    I wish they would just go ahead and legalize all types of sex work. that way the girls that just wanted to dance could do so at a place where guys that just want a dance can be,

    and if A guy wants more, he will have a place to go. also when somthing is legal, it can be requlated, Sex work carries a lot of responsibility so I think that they should be licenced,

    maybe a teird licence. a "B" one for dancers and others that at the most just simulate sex acts, this would have lower rules and regs,

    then for workers who's job involves sexual contact. there should be an "A" licence. this should have more regulations, (Ie. std tests every quatrer, allways required to use apropreate protection, heath code for the work place, ect, ect)

    also this would provide more protection to you all from getting burned by customer or manager......

    sex is a natural part of life, why must so many stigmas be attached to it and it also involves as much skill as danceing, giving good oral sex is as hard as owning the stage,

    well anyway that is my two cents, I hope I have not offended any of you because I respect and admire dancers, but this is a subject that I feel very strongly about....

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    I don't belive this crap!!! This is like the most depressing thread to me ever! Look if you want to go to strip clubs to look at beautiful naked women great! But if you go there looking for sex acts or dates for sex that really pisses me off. You men know full well that there are escort sevices for you. You can find them anywhere in adult newspapers. Or make a trip to Nevada and go to the Bunny Ranch. It irritates the hell out of me when guys think that they HAVE THE RIGHT to get off when they get a lap dance! My god it is a dance, entertainment! It is for fun, to get turned on, to appreciate women's beauty. Quit wasting are stripper's time trying to get us to go back to your hotel rooms. We are not call girls. They are called escorts and they provide services for that exact desire. We dancer's are there to get you worked up. Ugg sorry I just need to vent after reading this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    and if A guy wants more, he will have a place to go.
    they DO have a place to go they go to an escort. Girls can do anytype of sex work they want. Hooker, Pro, Escort it's all the same. Not all states have brothels like Nevada but that doesnt mean there's no hookers.

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    Well all this had to go under the Florida state topic, since it did. I just have to say (location does not really matter anyway, it's every place women are willing to put out more than allowed, pretty much covers the world!)

    What bothers me the most when people mention laws, and regulation, and getting tested for STD's......well i know how these work. And they don't work. It's too late if your positive.

    Say i get tested today for say the worst HIV/AIDS, and tonite i have unprotected sex with a guy or a few guys, my test theory just got all shot to hell.

    And riding bareback, like they do in many brothels, streets, clubs etc. Does no good when it comes to protecting your health in the future! If you have HIV, you have it, too late. Why test, and spend money on prostitutes, when the incubation period is very long in most people. Hell the test will prove negative, when in fact you may already be positive!

    Maybe it's me. Testing before and after does nothing. It's a waiting game with unprotected sex, and doing many guys for a living ?

    I guess this crap is just supposed to make people feel good, "oh i was tested last week, and i am clean, want to see my medical records?" WTF.

    I watched Howard Stern, they had ladies from the Bunny Ranch...I was floored! "We don't use a condom if the guy does not want too, but we get tested." Damn, how dangerous.

    PS it's not just a shot in the ass anymore.
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    they DO have a place to go they go to an escort. Girls can do anytype of sex work they want. Hooker, Pro, Escort it's all the same. Not all states have brothels like Nevada but that doesnt mean there's no hookers.
    sorry, I meant LEGAL place to go.

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    Lilac666- Lie down and put a cold compress on your
    head. I'm surprised that a dancer would get so worked
    up about what other dancers choose to do.
    If you don't like that sort of thing- DON'T DO IT!
    If you don't like the clubs where these things
    supposedly happen- DON'T WORK THERE!
    If you don't want to " hook up" with a customer
    for pay or for free- JUST SAY NO!
    Lastly- as far as the BUNNY RANCH is concerned;
    everything I've seen and read is to the effect that
    "SAFE-SEX" is the norm there and at other Nevada
    brothels.

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    The problem begins and ends with club owners. They control what goes on, beginning with the management they hire. Well, actually it begins with liquor control. Club owners don't care what goes on unless they think they might get shut down or lose business due to bad publicity. Unless owners are enforced to run the club legitimately, perverts will continue to come in and treat us like we're some bargain bizarre. It all comes down to working in this business now is difficult regardless who's at fault. Poor management allows contact and "extras" type girls to work at the club. They figure if they can bring more money to the club and get away with illegal activity, to hell with the girls trying to make an honest living. Yes to all the hipocrits, I said honest. Dancing in a private entertainment club is legal, and any form of sexual activity is not.

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    If you don't like the clubs where these things
    supposedly happen- DON'T WORK THERE!
    Life isn't always that simple. She may not have a choice in where to work. There may only be high contact clubs where she lives.

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    what kind of irked me was the request for the girl providing extras to do it well and not be a businesswoman....excuse me???its a STRIP club to see a DANCER..its bad enuff there are extras and girls who provide them,if they are gonna be such hoes and not dancers,they should certainly be major businesswomen and do it as quickly,quietly,discreetly as possible, or maybe even get the guys #or set a date to do it elsewhere..call me oldskool, but dancers should dance,extras should be done by these hoes out of the clubs.you want it good?then make a date and get a motel.it makes me sick to say im a stripper now sometimes because so many people get extras its like stripper means hooker.

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    Very true GirlyGirl!!!! Just because you work in a high contact club does not mean you must perform illegal performances for customers. Miami is loaded with high contact, i have visited many clubs and alot of dancers adapt well to the "extras," they simply develope their own routine! ALOT do not perform extras in these clubs. They have learned the "fine art of hustling"!

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    PAMELA is RIGHT!- It comes down to what the dancer
    CHOOSES to do or NOT do! No dancer is forced to do
    anything. If she is providing extras- that is her
    business. If the owner knows and wants to risk a
    bust- that's his or her problem. I've been to a few
    clubs where extras were available to CERTAIN
    customers- NOT just anyone. Even there MOST of
    the dancers NEVER crossed the line and the few
    that did were not necessarily the most popular.

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