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    You Go Leigh!
    You are far too gorgeous to take any shit off anyone. And...BTW, the stories Leigh is relating aren't far from what I've heard from my girlfriend who worked there in August 2001. I don't know if that was the same management or not, but I find it hard to believe that a club would take on an entirely different format just because of a change in management. (That usually only seems to happen when the police of liquor agents pay a visit.)

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    Thank you Heather I appreciate it. I sincerely do.

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion - I reacted as such in the stance that "dont you dare call me a liar", especially when you hide behind a posting. I could have put that posting up under ANY name but I stand behind what I say and give my well established name and email address in full. RESPOND TO ME AS YOU WILL, but confronting me as though I am putting you on --blows my motherf*cking mind...

    Maybe some people only see what they wanna see, dollars have been known to blind MANY to much.
    Again Heather, thanks...peace.

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    Anytime, Leigh.

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    I think it may be possible for things to go on without it being obvious to all the people in the club. I have never been to that club but I can tell you that I worked in a VERY clean and strict no-contact club not too long ago, and was very surprised at what happened one night.

    Three new dancers came in who were from outward appearance and behavior very well-mannered and professional. They did not act in any way like some of the women I have worked with elsewhere whom I knew, or found out later, were freely granting serious "extras". I made even more effort than I usually do to make new dancers feel comfortable and happy their first night, as I really wanted them to stay at our club. They wound up leaving before the end of the night but made a point of tipping me very well--usually brand new girls who leave early don't even say goodbye.

    The night had not gone very far when these three latched onto a party of four guys who came in, and never let them go. All I saw (mostly from the booth upstairs--but I always work the floor too) was that they were sitting in the guys' laps and seemed to be taking very good care of them, and the guys were spending a lot of money. The guys definitely looked way too sleazy compared to these girls, but this is Daytona, even in the classiest club here you get guys like this a lot.

    The most beautiful (definitely a 10) of the three, who danced divinely and was a real sweetheart to work with, I found out later, was getting fingered thoroughly by one of these sleazy guys, right out there on the well-lit and very open floor, with the knowledge and co-operation of the other two. I was shocked, and would have disbelieved it, as I have heard way too many (in my three years as DJ) exaggerated tales of dancers, especially good-looking new ones, getting crazy in VIP or whatever, to believe everything I hear about anyone. But there were too many witnesses, and the tones of voice used to describe this lacked the vindictive tone of the jealous troublemaker.

    This woman should never have had to do this to make money, but she nonetheless did, and in circumstances which would make it normally impossible. So I can see how it might be possible for different people to experience different things in the same club, especially if some touching was allowed. Certainly in the clubs I have worked where extras were regularly granted there were many dancers who did no such thing, and seemed oblivious to it all, which was probably in their own best interest.

    I do know that at one club I worked at things loosened up considerably as a result of all nude, high-contact clubs opening up in the vicinity. Overnight everything changed, the heat vanished. I don't know the story, I've never been there, but from what I've seen of your posts you are both very cool, and there is no reason to doubt each other, in spite of what may have been very different experiences.

    You both sound like you saw what you saw, and have no reason to lie or doubt the truth in each others' words.

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    Leigh, no need to get so mad. My point is, is that this can happen at ANY club, not just ggr. Another thing I really dont care who the girl is who did it...if she did, then thats her problem, and thats that.
    Yeh, you have NO reason to lie, and thats fine, but I have heard many stories from guys and girls who try to blow this place up for 2 different reasons. Guys wanna make it sound as if they have some "personal" relationship with the dancers and some girls just badmouth it because they cant work there (again 2 reasons...one is they dont hav the looks, and the other may be the fact that some chains dont allow it as melonie mentioned)
    Or the girls who have been known to get frisky, get away with it and even in the same LD room with them I havent seen it. It IS weird though cause I have tried to see what the "big fuss" is about and I can never see.
    I could give 3 hoots about what any girl does at the club though. Those things arent allowed, so the girl who got fisted obviously went against club rules. I HIGHLY doubt that she is still here btw.
    Under the NEW management you say, thats very strange cause a whole bunch of girls were fired because of trying to get away with raunchy shit. (AGAIN, this happens at every club...perhapseven YOURS) Then again, if it happened, and you saw it, then I wont say it didnt, but its not like its ALLOWED or the NORM.
    AGain, thats nice of you to inform the girls about the club, or as you mention cesspool, but I guess the reason I did defend it is because I do not put up with any of that crap and still make money.


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    Amen, to the fact that you may not know what is going on right under your nose. I thought the first club I worked at was a very clean club, so did about 15 of the other dancers. Then one day 6 or 7 girls got fired & when we questioned the manager said they had been caught doing extras (like hj's, bj's & even sex). He even said this had happened several times in the dimly lit private room, while one of us "good girls" were in there. Now, keep in mind, I had NO IDEA, & I'm sure most of the other dancers who were not doing extras didn't know either. We would have been having fits on these other girls & the management if we had known. What I'm saying is, these girls are good at hiding what they are doing. Sometimes the managers just suspect something. They can't even see what is going on with the cameras pointed right at the girls. Just something to think about.

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    Just an old dancer's observation of clubs --- if the club is a gold mine, there's usually a reason for it besides pure luck!

    I was also a bit surprised when I was "called out" over the fact that guys were all over my tits in the main room (and I wasn't the only dancer doing a Lucy Liu impression every 30 seconds either). But I figured that under new management the club must have cleaned up its act, since I haven't been there in over a year. Tell ya what - next time I head down to the Jersey Shore I'll stop in at GGR and take a "sniff".

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    Jasmine hit the nail on the head:
    Unless you have your eyes and ears open, things can, will, and do happen right under your nose!!!

    On the surface, the topless, San Francisco clubs (Boys Toys, Hustler, and Gold Club) seem like any normal club. The action is mostly covert: lights off in the champagne room (not down, OFF!) curtains pulled and stapled around a couch.

    I remember one new girl, late teens, had only been dancing a few months saying "I don't understand why the same girls are always in VIP? Whenever I try to sell it, the guy wants a hand job?" Duhhhhhhhhhhhh...
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    I live in Central NJ and I will tell anyone what it really is. It is a police owned brothel. Point blank. I have had boyfriends go there and tell me about the goings on. I would never ever work there. Even if it is a few girls doing these actions its going to rub off on anyone who works there. Basically you will be fighting the hands off all night long. As Melonie and others have said money is at this club BUT think about why:

    1) Cult Following
    2) They book 12 girls max
    3) Some girls are NOTORIOUS for the services they provide
    4) They seem never to obey the capacity of people who
    can occupy a building (its a sweat box).
    5) It's infamous for the money to be made there if you
    get with the program.

    Girls come from Canada to work there for a week. Anyway what I'm trying to say is tread carefully. I personally know of a girl who worked there and made less than 300 because she refused to "get with the program".

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    Ebony, I guess that there are some girls, like me, who dont see this. But trust me, if you go there, evento SEE the size of the LD room...it is SO small, and you can see EVERYONE. PLUS there are gawkers, so I dont know how they get away with it. Bu police owned brothel? Thats not true, its a rumor... I know who its owned by and believe me, its not the police.
    I know the girl who comes in from Canada (the main popular one) and shes very clean in her lapdances. Thereare others who I can wonder about, but even still...we dont have a champagne room or anything.
    But ladies..those of you who dont work here dont have a right to say much of what goes on here because you havent been here. Seriously, I have been here months now, and its not even NEAR what you all say.

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    Hi Thorn. If I saw you would I recognize you ? Images come to mind of a guy who has shoulders so broad he couldn't walk through a doorway without putting one shoulder through before the other!

    Yeah, I've also seen that the clubs which receive the least publicity and hype are also usually the ones that deliver the highest sleaze factor, at least in the TriState area. I'm sure that this is because local law enforcement won't pull any punches if they are given a reason to bust clubs! Therefore high profile clubs which are well known seem to automatically receive more police attention, which forces dancers to clean up their act. The thing that seemed to make GGR unique was that it IS a very well known club among customers, and still did not shy away from some serious contact levels.

    I used to dance a lot in the NYC/NJ area, but as the economy has gone to s#!t I have been cutting down on road trips. As I said earlier, I have not been to GGR since the Lace/Stiletto group took it over, so I can't vouch for any changes for the better (or worse) which have been instituted. Also, NYC's new ordinances have really affected city club business for the worse, except for the super upscale clubs which don't want me bouncing around their stage anyhow. But I agree that wherever there are guys with major money, there will be clubs and girls ready to cater to their desires whether it is legal or not. As you point out, the bust risk does factor in under these circumstances, but it's certainly not the only factor.

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    I've only heard second hand too.....great money, guys line up for couch dances, etC. From what I understand though, you have to schedule a booking for a week, show up for all 5 days in a row, and deal with VERY HIGH full nude contact....it's essentially a brothel like Mitchell Bros in San Francisco

    Its a nude club, yes...but only on stage. In the LD room, you must keep your gstring, or thong on. But yes the contact can be high, but obviously not more than you want.

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    Much of the info on this thread is either out-dated or
    TOTALLY WRONG!GGR books 12 girls per night.Some
    dancers book for 1 week; some for 1 or 2 nights per week; some for 1 or 2 weekends. Mileage is controlled
    by the dancer.Ld's are topless and the cookie is OFF-
    LIMITS. "Specials and extras" are almost unheard of
    because the 12 seat ld room is fairly open and the DJ
    booth has a great view.
    Earnings are running $800 to $1200 a night; a bit
    more on Fri. & Sat. nites;lower on Sun.
    No "selling" by dancers except for dollar dances
    around bar IF there are no customers waiting for
    ld's. Atractive women with friendly personas build
    followings with big spending regulars( 10-15 ld's in a
    row) very quickly. The current record for a 2 day
    weekend take home is supposed to be $3500.Most
    ld's on 1st night by a new dancer is 98 held by 3 girls.
    All time record for most ld's in 1 night is 101.Dancer
    gets 17 per dance.House fee is $40.DJ gets $20.
    DO THE MATH.
    Delilah's has similar earning potential but has been
    slow lately.

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    Hi Mark. Nice going Lexi. Lets not overdo it, the mega dance sessions are not that common (sounds obsessive to me anyway). 800 is easy weekdays for the average GGR dancer - and that includes new talent. Popular dancers (and there are many) do have a following and work nearly non-stop from opening. Contact is high but out in the open which controls the over the top behavior. No worse than most VIP rooms. The dance room (no separate VIP) was recently expanded, so every dancer has an assigned chair. Hope they improved the dancer facilities!! The club is special in a Cheers kind of way. The dancers don't compete with each other or need to hustle for dances, so a lot of the phoniness and pressure is eliminated. Dances are 5 timed minutes for $20 which gives patrons value so, guess what, wallets are loosened!!! Dancers make out tho dates are limited, so everyone is happy. Most of the dancers will take all the dates they can get here. I'm not a shill but have yet to find a club that did as many things right as this place IMO. Of course not perfect. But like all clubs they need a flow of new talent. Quite a number fly in once a month for 3 to 5 days. This is not the place to entertain clients, but there are many decent and otherwise intelligent, cool, etc patrons and dancers. Many patrons drive over 50 miles, bypassing closer clubs, to go here. Anyone who can handle Olympic Garden in Vegas should not have a problem. Nothing to fear. Besides the fact that its illegal for clubs to control other work of independent contractors, the limited dates make it necessary for full time dancers to work elsewhere - and they should rotate and avoid being "owned" by any club anyway. But quite a few dance their dates here only and attend to school, etc. Now how many dancers really read this?

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    HI STUDENT!! They wouldn't let me use my usual name onthis site. Already taken or not enough letters,I forget
    which.Your info is on target BUT as far as belittling
    the MEGA-DANCE phenomenum at GGR- tell that to
    Akira, Amanda, CASSIDY(especially),Jaden, Mia,Sherry, Simone, Stephanie and others.Tell that to the customers who often wait 2 HOURS or more for a dance
    with one of them!
    PEACE-See you on the other site.
    P.S. I see you did not have any trouble finding this
    chat room or board. That's the great thing about an
    open mind- there's always room for something new.
    Don't worry , our friend CUMKWAT will be along
    sooner or later and try to tell the readers of this bd.
    that you and I are full of it.Therefore I respectfully
    suggest that interested readers; both customer
    and dancer alike check out the GGR and Delilah's
    for themselves and form their own opinions.
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    The GGR is a sordid, disgusting pit. I visited last week with the intention of possibly auditioning after hearing that tremendous money could be made --Nothing is further from the truth! For one, it's ridiculously hard work: For 5 mins. of dry-humping and being groped, you earn $17. In a classy club, in 5 mins. you've danced 2 songs without being humiliated and earned $40. I've already mentioned that the place is a decrepit dump, that contact is ridiculously high and nasty, but you also have to forfeit all self-respect to earn less than you would at an upscale joint! $800-$1200/shift are average earnings for a pretty girl at a low or no-contact club where customers and management actually repsect you. Plus, you'll never have really big nights at GGR($1500 plus). GGR is a sleazy hole with mediocre earnings potential -- AVOID!!!!

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    JULIET-Thank you! Now tell us how you really feel.
    There is certainly contact at GGR and if you can't handle
    it; DON'T WORK THERE! Juliet? You didn't work there
    right? So HOW the hell would you have a clue what
    anyone is making there? Just which wonderful clubs
    are you referring to where the girls are making so much
    more while doing so much less? Let's confine it to N.J.
    and metro N.Y. shall we? Scores? Sure if you don't
    mind risking a negative $100 night.
    BTW-Just who the hell are you to be so full of yourself
    and so judgementally self-righteous!?!?
    Just what exactly DO YOU think REALLY happens in
    SOME VIP rooms with SOME dancers AT SOME clubs?
    You're not really that naive, ARE YOU?
    Do whatever is best for you. Express your opinions
    if you must BUT please keep your moral judgements
    to yourself.

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    I know how much the girls earn there because A)I know girls who work there and B)it's easily calculated if you watch the proceedings with your own eyes.
    Self-righteous? WHy --Because I dislike the place and would not wish such a fate on anyone I know?
    Dancers at Scores,Penthouse, VIP, Privilege, Flashdancers,etc. all earn $20 per 2.5 minute song of no or low-contact dancing and average $800-$1500 plus a night.Who do you know that walked out negative from Scores? In 3 years that I've worked there, it's never happened to me, nor have I ever seen it happen! I don't condemn contact dancing entirely -- I've done medium contact in Texas clubs, and was okay with it because the clubs were upscale, noone touched my breasts or crotch, and earnings justified the additional work. At GGR, girls work twice as hard, have strangers grope their breasts (and sometimes genitalia), and dance in unpalateable surroundings for the same, and often less, than they would at a nice club where they're not denigrated nightly. My two cents --but I've danced just about everywhere, and GGR is one of the nastiest spots I've ever seen!

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    JULIET- Did a little research on you. First, from your
    pictures you are very pretty.From your past posts
    you are very opinionated and almost impossible to please.
    Your post of 9/6/03-You are averaging $500 -$900 a
    night and things are slow.
    8/26/03-You did not find a single strip-joint in ALL of
    Las Vegas that came up to your standards of what
    a club should be. You obviously have things bassackwards if you think these clubs were set up to
    cater to your mind-set. WAKE-UP CALL! They are
    designed to cater to customers! BTW- You did not
    dance a single set in a single Vegas club did you?
    How many dancers did you talk to?
    Your post7/21/03-Avr.dancer earnings in Houston-
    $300 to $1000-RIGHT?
    BTW- If Scores was so GREAT and your earnings so
    fantastic and the staff was so nice-WHY DID YOU
    LEAVE?
    With your apparent attitude you've probably been
    canned or flunked auditions at too many clubs to count.
    Bottom line-You don't like a club like GGR? You can't
    handle the scene there- that's fine. Nothing wrong
    with that. You want to trash the place on this bd?
    Go ahead.It's still a mostly free country; Mr. Ashcroft
    notwithstanding. Just please don't pretend you're
    somehow better than the girls who work GGR because
    you're not. A lot of women who work GGR have worked
    Scores; and Vegas; and Houston and Chi-town. They
    obviously do very well at GGR or they wouldn't travel
    so far to do so.Some of them even( God Help Us!) like
    the contact.

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    NOW I KNOW somebody is living in a "fantasy world".
    When is the last time you worked one of those
    wonderful Manhattan upscale clubs with the
    fantastic $800 to $1500 a night earnings? BTW that's
    directly contrary to YOUR past posts on the subject.
    BTW-genitalia is OFF-LIMITS at GGR. You were
    obviously seeing things or you just make it up as
    you go along. The GGR is NOT the place for you
    and your fellow sophisticates. Go "sell" it to the
    suckers and saps at Scores.

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    I never quit Scores,you're drawing unwarranted assumptions -- I've been finishing grad school in Chicago, and have been unable to travel out of town until recently. Currently, however, I am working at Penthouse in Manhattan, and averaging well over $1000/night, along with plenty of other girls.
    Finally, as to the inscinuation that I have "flunked" auditions -- you're completely out of your mind. I'm not claiming to be a perfect 10 or anything, but I have been hired and done well at every top club in the country.
    If you like GGR, that's your prerogative; do not, however, reprimand me for warning other girls. Dancers deserve to know what they're getting into, and several other girls agree with my assessment of the place. We are neither in the business of needlessly promoting nor bashing clubs--We're all independent contractors and simply go where the $$ is, provided that the club provides a decent working environment. GGR fails that test, IMO.
    Finally, you do research on me, but fail to draw accurate earnings comparisons. When I say I average $300-$1000/shift in Houston , this is for a 3-4 hr shift --not 8-10 hrs.like in NY!! When I say it's slow in Chicago and I'm only making $500-$900, again, this is for a shorter shift. Actually, on an hourly basis, my earnings are still roughly equivalent to NY. Get your facts straight, or stop making unfounded, specious extrapolations.

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    JULIET- Please re-read your own posts.
    YOURS of 6/23/03- You earn as little as "$150 a night"
    Boo-hoo!
    Yours of 6/11/03- Scores is a "marvel of the Strip-club
    industry". Were you serious? Tell the truth. Every
    night there was a gamble wasn't it? Some nights you
    hit it big with action in the President's Room and
    some nights you had trouble giving it away; Right?
    Some nights were a $1000 plus and some you didn't
    even cover your hotel room and cab fare; Right?
    BTW- you want to dispute the Negative $100 figure
    kindly take it up with the Scores dancers on the other
    threads.Their words, not mine. Have a nice time back
    in Chi-town.Go Cubs! We'll have to see about the
    Bears.

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    Some of these posts are from the same guys on stripper web giving people a hard time, they just dont believe girls are still earning 800-1000 in this economy,I personally have been called a liar because of thisand been told I never made 1500 a night in chicago because its no contact, would you like to see my bank statements, there are still girls out there that make this working at clubs not like ggr, guys and girls who dont believe it,too bad.

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    JULIET- Fair enough. Points taken.If you're doing well
    at Penthouse- good for you! I have to admit that I've
    been there and prefer it to Scores. It is certainly
    upscale; the girls are beautiful and can hold a
    conversation. I would take a client there. I would
    NOT spend $700 for an hour of AIR! I save my big $$
    for the girls at GGR and Delilah's. I like more mutual
    and "hands on" experiences than what is being offered
    at PEC.

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    The Kid:

    I really do not understand why you're so venomous! Yes, I've earned as little as $150 on my worst shift ever - which, incidentally, was not at Scores. I do not refute anything I've said. You are deluded, however, if you think I would continue to travel to NY only to earn crappy money. If my arnings consistently dropped below $800, I simply would not return to Scores or penthouse. Thankfully, this is not the case. Perhaps the girls you know were unable to consistently earn big bucks in Manhattan, and thus felt the need to go to GGR for decent earnings. I am not in this predicament, however, and under no circumstances work in such a place.
    Again, I'm currently in NY, and earning well over 1K/shift. However, this is for an 8-10 hr shift, so earning $300-$1000 in Houston in 3 -4 hrs. or $500-$900 in Chicago for 5 hr shift is comparable, on a per-hour basis.
    I love my job. I enjoy entertaining gentlemen, dancing sensually, and engaging in quality conversation. I'm in the minority of dancers who actually think their job is intrinsically rewarding.
    Why do you have such an issue with girls who enjoy low-contact clubs an do well there?

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